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The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 07-12-12 10:57 PM

Re: 5th Annual Summer Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by Indy24LA (Post 11305727)
Watched Another Earth, not a bad concept, little slow, but compelling. And this is not listed as Sci-Fi on IMDB????

Imdb is sometimes defective like that.

SterlingBen 07-12-12 11:35 PM

Re: 5th Annual Summer Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by Mister Peepers (Post 11304803)
Friday the 13th Bonus Day!!!


I just realized Friday the 13th is tomorrow. As a token of appreciation, Jason X will be worth 2 points. The Friday the 13th TV series will also be worth double points an episode.

In addition, the rest of the series, with the exception of the first, would normally be ok* if you used a wild card. For tomorrow, you can spend one wild card token and watch all Friday the 13th films you want, with the exception of the first**. Freddy vs Jason is also allowed.

All films and TV episodes must be started and finished between midnight and 11:59pm, Friday the 13th (local time) for bonuses to count.

*in that Jason could be considered a creature of fantasy
** It was a regular human killer in the first film as well as part 5. 5 is being allowed because in the novelization of 6, it implies that the killer was being directed by Jason from beyond the grave which is the type of thing that could count as a paranormal possession and counts as sci-fi. If you really want to watch the first one, go ahead but don't plan on counting it.

Sweet!

davidh777 07-13-12 01:05 AM

Re: 5th Annual Summer Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread
 
Have gotten off to a lame start in the challenge but starting a Harry Potter marathon to get things going

ororama 07-13-12 01:45 AM

Re: 5th Annual Summer Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by gp1086 (Post 11305439)
Finally saw Blade Runner (1982) for the first time. Watched the Final Cut version. Which do you all prefer?

I prefer the theatrical version. The narration seems to be unpopular, but for me it efficiently explained this world, while also effectively conveying the mid-1940s (I thought 1946 when I first saw it) noir atmosphere underlying the sci-fi.

The version that I watched most recently was the Final Cut. I don't find Scott tinkering with his work any more appealing then when Lucas or Spielberg do the same.

GoldenWheels 07-13-12 07:36 AM

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Ugh. I watched Dinosaur Island last night.

The minute I saw the Fred Olen Ray credit, I should have hit stop. But I didn't. I guess I deserved it.

shadokitty 07-13-12 08:08 AM

Re: 5th Annual Summer Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread
 
Started my Land of the Giants set last night with the first episode, The Crash. Also watched another movie from the Sci Fi classics set yesterday afternoon, Voyage to the Prehistoric Planet.

BobO'Link 07-13-12 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by gp1086 (Post 11305692)
Interesting. Thanks for the heads up.

You're welcome. I should probably add that reportedly neither Ridley Scott nor screenwriter David Peoples actually read Dick's novel.

BobO'Link 07-13-12 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ororama (Post 11305985)
...I don't find Scott tinkering with his work any more appealing then when Lucas or Spielberg do the same.

But Scott *didn't* "tinker" with Blade Runner like Lucas and Spielberg did. Scott was briefly fired from the production shortly after principal photography wrapped. Executive producers Jerry Perenchio and Bud Yorkin of Tandem Productions stepped in and took over the editing of the project themselves. They *did* rehire Scott but retained artistic control. Following two disastrous preview screenings of the work print, which the audience claimed was difficult to understand, Yorkin and Perenchio decided to record an explanatory voice over and add a happy ending. Scott was not necessarily against the idea of a voice over, but he had wanted a voice over with Deckard musing philosophically on the implications of his actions. The producers insisted on the explanatory voice over. So the "Director's Cut" is more what Scott wanted from the outset but was unable to achieve due to meddling from the producers. The "Final Cut" was simply cleaning up and/or correcting inconsistencies that existed in both the "Theatrical" and "Director's" cuts of the film with a *few* visual effects added to enhance certain shots.

coyoteblue 07-13-12 09:53 AM

Re: 5th Annual Summer Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by BobO'Link (Post 11306206)
You're welcome. I should probably add that reportedly neither Ridley Scott nor screenwriter David Peoples actually read Dick's novel.

No point letting the plot of the novel you're adapting get in the way of the story you're writing.

BobO'Link 07-13-12 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by coyoteblue (Post 11306212)
No point letting the plot of the novel you're adapting get in the way of the story you're writing.

Ain't that the truth! :lol:

The film title even comes from a *different* book. One called "The Bladerunner", written by Alan Nourse. Scott bought the rights to the title but not a screenplay based on the Nourse book. It had been written by William S. Burroughs who defined a blade runner as "a person who sells illegal surgical instruments".

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 07-13-12 10:06 AM

Re: 5th Annual Summer Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by BobO'Link (Post 11306206)
You're welcome. I should probably add that reportedly neither Ridley Scott nor screenwriter David Peoples actually read Dick's novel.

Reminds me of when Ronny Yu got to direct Freddy vs Jason and didn't see a problem with not knowing anything about the characters. Even his wife was saying he should at least watch one of the movies about them.

Who should get more blame? The person that hires someone with no knowledge and doesn't require them to do a little research or the person making the film that doesn't bother doing any research?

Ash Ketchum 07-13-12 10:33 AM

Re: 5th Annual Summer Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by BobO'Link (Post 11305435)
I just can't bring myself to do that if it's something I've purchased. I'll suffer through to the end *once* and vow to never watch it again.

I thought Phantom from Space wasn't too bad, although those other 3... phew! Watching Voyage to the Prehistoric Planet and Voyage to the Planet of Prehistoric Women back to back made me appreciate Prehistoric Planet a bit more but they have me wanting to see Planeta Bur, the Soviet film Corman chopped up to make them. There's a release from someone called "Video Dimensions" that looks to be a pretty good copy. At least the stills on amazon have good color and appear to be WS - but the description doesn't mention that and it's a bit more than I typically like to spend. I like many of the early foreign SF efforts so we'll see...

Yeah, those scenes with Beaty and the animals *are* amazing.

Rocky Jones is better viewed as the TV episodes. Even then you *really* need to get into the mindset of a 50s 8-10 year old male to fully enjoy them. There's a "Classic Sci-Fi TV - 150 Episodes" set from Mill Creek that has 23 of the 39 episodes in good transfers. If you enjoy vintage Sci-Fi TV fare that set has *lots* of entertainment value with mostly good to very good transfers. It also has 3 full serials, Phantom Empire, Radar Men From the Moon, and Undersea Kingdom with very good transfers.

I agree on all of those. I've had The DEFA Sci-Fi Collection in my "wishlist" for a while simply to get a copy of Silent Star, the film that was recut and dubbed to make First Spaceship on Venus. Image has a good quality WS, although *not* anamorphic, version of First Spaceship. It's not "great" but it's far superior to all those faded FS versions floating around. Both Image and Legend have good copies of Phantom Planet. The Legend one has both B/W and a colorized one. They did a good job on the color although I typically watch the B/W.

Thanks! I wasn't even aware of either the Classic Sci-Fi TV box set or the DEFA Sci-Fi Collection. I've gotta get those.

gp1086 07-13-12 10:37 AM

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For my wildcard, I just finished Friday the 13th: Part 3. While I didn't like it, it was a little better than the second one for me. Some fun non-spoiler facts I found out after reading:

- Originally filmed and released in 3D (figured this out with the way some of the scenes were shot)

- Some of the deaths were edited to avoid an "X" rating

- Budget was $4mm and grossed $37mm domestically - not too shabby for Paramount

BobO'Link 07-13-12 12:59 PM

Re: 5th Annual Summer Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 11306277)
Thanks! I wasn't even aware of either the Classic Sci-Fi TV box set or the DEFA Sci-Fi Collection. I've gotta get those.

No problem! BUT... in spite of a "review" on amazon, all three films are presented with a non-anamorphic 1.78:1 image that puts the subtitles in the black bar at the bottom of the image so that you can't zoom without cropping off the subtitles. That's part of why I've held off so far - hoping for a anamorphic update release.

SterlingBen 07-13-12 01:34 PM

Re: 5th Annual Summer Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread
 
Deepstar Six as Giant Critters or Prehistoric?

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 07-13-12 05:56 PM

Re: 5th Annual Summer Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by SterlingBen (Post 11306534)
Deepstar Six as Giant Critters or Prehistoric?

No to Giant Critters, unless you find that there's other similar creatures and that is an abnormally large one.

Borderline on prehistoric. They don't really prove/show that it's something from prehistoric times but just claim the cave was sealed, only making it a possibly closed ecosystem where that particular type of creature may or may not have existed that far back.

That's just my take on it.

Giles 07-13-12 06:16 PM

Re: 5th Annual Summer Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread
 
so would Ice Age: Continental Drift count as fantasy? even though imdb doesn't list it as such, since
Spoiler:
the ending of the movie takes place in the mythical 'Atlantis'

Giles 07-13-12 06:18 PM

Re: 5th Annual Summer Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by gp1086 (Post 11306285)
For my wildcard, I just finished Friday the 13th: Part 3. While I didn't like it, it was a little better than the second one for me. Some fun non-spoiler facts I found out after reading:

- Originally filmed and released in 3D (figured this out with the way some of the scenes were shot)

- Some of the deaths were edited to avoid an "X" rating

- Budget was $4mm and grossed $37mm domestically - not too shabby for Paramount

very little was trimmed but yes the MPAA had issues with some of the grue - but no where as extreme to their impression of Part 5 and the sequels that followed.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 07-13-12 08:12 PM

Re: 5th Annual Summer Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by Giles (Post 11306981)
so would Ice Age: Continental Drift count as fantasy? even though imdb doesn't list it as such, since
Spoiler:
the ending of the movie takes place in the mythical 'Atlantis'

I'd wouldn't because one scene doesn't necessarily make a film a certain genre. If we allowed such things, then any film that had a dream sequence where something fantastic happened, would then be labeled fantasy.

Trevor 07-13-12 08:58 PM

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^ So a movie with talking animals isn't a fantasy or sci-fi?

BobO'Link 07-13-12 10:02 PM

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^I'd think that all depends on just what you had to drink before the animals started talking...

LJG765 07-14-12 12:03 AM

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Haven't been able to watch anything the last day or two. Decided to get one in tonight and had Them! available. I'm really enjoying it. Everyone is so serious in it. I love their protection glasses they wear during the sand storm. I'd have bought a pair of those for science classes during college!

It's interesting to see what people thought might be possible right after atomic bombs were discovered/used as it was such a new concept. From drop and cover info reels to movies about atomic mutant ants. Humans are always exploring concepts and ideas that are new and different. Makes me wonder what the next thing we'll have horror movies made of that relate to one.

mrcellophane 07-14-12 12:45 AM

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(Warning: spoilers ahead) I delved into my new Planet of the Apes box set. The first movie is such a classic, and while I have seen it several times, I had never watched the sequels.

I'm not quite sure what I think about Beneath the Planet of the Apes. My initial reaction was "what the fuck, Hollywood?" However, some of the concepts are terribly intriguing
Spoiler:
such as the cult around the unexploded bomb and the class system between the various kinds of apes. However, the cult was woefully underdeveloped, and I really could have done without their empathic/telepathic/illusionary abilities. Also, Brent was never fleshed out, creating a cipher at the center of the movie.


Though dated, Escape from the Planet of the Apes was a step up from the first sequel.
Spoiler:
I was not expecting quite so bleak a ending considering the comedic overtones of the first half of the film. Also, I so very much wish that Dr. Zaius had survived to give his input into 1970s society.

coyoteblue 07-14-12 01:08 AM

Re: 5th Annual Summer Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread
 
I need clarification. For 'Watch a film starring:' is it watch all of the stars or just one per row?

davidh777 07-14-12 03:46 AM

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Just saw Resident Evil: Afterlife. I remembered so little of Extinction that I was wondering if I had missed another film in between. :lol: Wikipedia is a wonderful thing, though. Action is still crazy over the top, and Milla Jovovich is still :drool:. My only disappointment was that the
Spoiler:
end credits ruined the mid-credits scene because I saw the credit for Sienna Guillory and said "Valentine? Where was she in that movie?"


OK, another disappointment: The shower scene was a total tease :mad:

shadokitty 07-14-12 08:18 AM

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Had more free time yesterday so had time to take in a couple movies, and 3 Land of the Giants episodes. I watched Voyage to the Planet of Prehistoric Women, Kong Island, and finishing Disc 1 side A of Land of the Giants, I watched Ghost Town, Framed, and Underground. Nice to see the planet on Land of the Giants already being fleshed out with some interesting information in just the first 4 episodes.

Ash Ketchum 07-14-12 08:41 AM

Re: 5th Annual Summer Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread
 
Today being Bastille Day, you might want to watch something with a "French connection."

I watched the first four chapters of the "Mysterious Island" serial from 1951 this morning, without initially realizing that it had a French origin--based on a novel by French author Jules Verne. You can watch other Jules Verne film adaptations: 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA, JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH, THE FABULOUS WORLD OF JULES VERNE and the 1961 MYSTERIOUS ISLAND. There must be a million others. I want to dig out the 1929 version of MYSTERIOUS ISLAND, so I can watch something from the 1920s.

Godard's ALPHAVILLE (1965) is the one actual French sci-fi film in my collection, but I watched it for last year's challenge or the Criterion one.
There's also anything sci-fi by Luc Besson, THE FIFTH ELEMENT being the one I can think of that's suitable for this challenge. I know a sci-fi anime set in France--"Nadia, The Secret of Blue Water" (1990), which is also based, in part, on Verne.

What famous sci-fi films are set in France?

gp1086 07-14-12 10:17 AM

Re: 5th Annual Summer Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by Giles (Post 11306983)
very little was trimmed but yes the MPAA had issues with some of the grue - but no where as extreme to their impression of Part 5 and the sequels that followed.

Thanks for the heads up. I look forward to wrapping up the Friday the 13th series (probably as part of the horror challenge in October).

Was an uncut version ever released?

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 07-14-12 10:30 AM

Re: 5th Annual Summer Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by coyoteblue (Post 11307312)
I need clarification. For 'Watch a film starring:' is it watch all of the stars or just one per row?

One per row.

Giles 07-14-12 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gp1086 (Post 11307511)
Thanks for the heads up. I look forward to wrapping up the Friday the 13th series (probably as part of the horror challenge in October).

Was an uncut version ever released?

of Part 3? - no.

mrcellophane 07-14-12 12:04 PM

Re: 5th Annual Summer Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 11307440)
Today being Bastille Day, you might want to watch something with a "French connection."

I watched the first four chapters of the "Mysterious Island" serial from 1951 this morning, without initially realizing that it had a French origin--based on a novel by French author Jules Verne. You can watch other Jules Verne film adaptations: 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA, JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH, THE FABULOUS WORLD OF JULES VERNE and the 1961 MYSTERIOUS ISLAND. There must be a million others. I want to dig out the 1929 version of MYSTERIOUS ISLAND, so I can watch something from the 1920s.

Godard's ALPHAVILLE (1965) is the one actual French sci-fi film in my collection, but I watched it for last year's challenge or the Criterion one.
There's also anything sci-fi by Luc Besson, THE FIFTH ELEMENT being the one I can think of that's suitable for this challenge. I know a sci-fi anime set in France--"Nadia, The Secret of Blue Water" (1990), which is also based, in part, on Verne.

What famous sci-fi films are set in France?

Happy Bastille Day! This may be the day I rewatch some Méliès films! I am always captivated by the surreal beauty of his films. As for other French science fiction, the only thing I can think of is La Jetée, which is also in the Criterion Collection. Also, I know that a few of Buñuel's French films are classified as "fantasy" by IMBD.

davidh777 07-14-12 12:09 PM

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It's too bad the Adele Blanc-Sec film didn't get U.S. distribution

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 07-14-12 12:43 PM

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I'm starting a double feature of Battle Beneath the Earth and The Ultimate Warrior. I've seen Warrior but not the other one.

Ash Ketchum 07-14-12 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcellophane (Post 11307595)
Happy Bastille Day! This may be the day I rewatch some Méliès films! I am always captivated by the surreal beauty of his films. As for other French science fiction, the only thing I can think of is La Jetée, which is also in the Criterion Collection. Also, I know that a few of Buñuel's French films are classified as "fantasy" by IMBD.

Méliès, of course! How could I forget the inventor of filmed science fiction?!

I also forgot my favorite Truffaut film, FAHRENHEIT 451, which I should also watch as a tribute to the dear, recently departed Ray Bradbury.

gp1086 07-14-12 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Giles (Post 11307572)
of Part 3? - no.

Yeah - of Part 3

shadokitty 07-14-12 01:29 PM

Re: 5th Annual Summer Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread
 
If anyone is a fan of kaiju movies. This might be a good weekend to watch them, as the kaiju convention G Fest is this weekend. May watch kaiju myself this weekend.

NoirFan 07-14-12 03:41 PM

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I had never seen more than a handful of Star Trek episodes before watching the Blu-rays, and perhaps it's only as noticeable because they're in HD, but what's with all of the glittery eyeshadow and eyeliner on the men? It's like I'm watching a Poison video!

coyoteblue 07-14-12 04:49 PM

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I just might finish off my checklist this weekend.

Some other fantasy/sci-fi French movies:

District B13 (Banlieue 13) (2004)
The Return of James Battle (Atomik Circus - Le retour de James Bataille) (2004)
Fantastic Planet (La planète sauvage) (1973)
Time Masters (Les maîtres du temps) (1982)
Light Years (Gandahar) (1988)
Belphégor - Le fantôme du Louvre (2001)
Renaissance (2006)
The City of Lost Children (1995)
Amélie (2001)

Chad 07-14-12 05:08 PM

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Currently bringing out my inner 10-year-old with another space adventure serial, Jason of Star Command with the incomparable Sig Haig, whose birthday is today.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TEIjDjGst0...400/jason8.jpg

<strike>And I've got a promotional Fandango code to see "Ted" for free my local theater won't accept. I thought I'd give it away in here since it qualifies as Fantasy. Shoot me a PM if interested.</strike>

It's taken.

BobO'Link 07-14-12 05:13 PM

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I fell behind a bit today. The computer my my brother-in-law uses to run his sign business died and I spent most of the day getting his new one setup, running a network cable from the ancilary system (he'd only had the "play" computer connected to the router), introducing him to DropBox for sharing sign files with his other sign shop buddies, chasing down a PCIe Serial Port card (for his plotter), making sure he understood everything and that it all worked OK, basically a day's work...

I *finally* watched another "good" film on the "Sci-Fi Classics" set. They Came from Beyond Space surprised when the opening credits rolled and I see Amicus listed on the screen! That got my attention. I'd never heard of the film before and found it to be a fairly good entry from Amicus. Not great, but definitely worth watching and somewhat a breath of fresh air after the past 8 or 9 clunkers from that set. It's another I'd like to see receive a good release.


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