Verily, Behold! The Third Annual Historical Appreciation Challenge Be Upon Us!
So, uh, I kinda dropped the ball and we only have about a week before this one gets underway. Looking through last year's discussion thread, I don't really see much in the way of suggestions or requests for changes from last year, so my proposal is to re-use last year's checklist. We've got a week, though, so anyone who has any thoughts: now is the time to speak up! We're all-inclusive here, so if you've thought of something new or maybe you're new to the challenge, I'd love to have your ideas.
In a nutshell, here are the basics:
The initial premise was to combine War and Western challenges, and those are the primary focuses here. You're welcome to expand to include biographies, documentaries, even "costume dramas." Regarding specific films, I would suggest--and this goes for any questions--that you ask about a specific film in the discussion thread and see what feedback you get from others who have seen it. If you don't get anything helpful, I would say if you feel that you have a sufficient reason to believe that it's an appropriate selection then go ahead and watch it. If it turns out not to really fit the nature of this challenge, go ahead and share those thoughts with us. Lastly, many of the films at the heart of this challenge have considerable run times, so even though there's always a sort of de facto goal of hitting 100 movies watched, it's not really expected here. We'd much rather you take this opportunity to finally see Lawrence of Arabia than to squeeze in two shorter films. Check List Spoiler:
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Re: Verily, Behold! The Third Annual Historical Appreciation Challenge Be Upon Us!
I have tons of period gangster, westerns, kung fu (old China) and sword 'n' sandal left over from the Action/Adventure/Crime and B-Movie challenges--plus actual historical epics and fact-based war movies. I'll be busy.
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I participated in last year's challenge and was surprised as to how much I enjoyed it since it really took me out of my comfort zone. Sadly in my personal collection I don't have that many titles that I could use for the challenge so I ended up renting most of the movies watched.
Even so, I believe I'm in this year as well if only to see Lawrence of Arabia, which I've never seen all the way through! |
Re: Verily, Behold! The Third Annual Historical Appreciation Challenge Be Upon Us!
Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
(Post 11246038)
I have tons of period gangster, westerns, kung fu (old China) and sword 'n' sandal left over from the Action/Adventure/Crime and B-Movie challenges--plus actual historical epics and fact-based war movies. I'll be busy.
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I have *several* documentary sets I purchased for last year but ran out of time. Not to mention dozens of westerns I've stockpiled over the past year waiting for this challenge! Heck... I just ordered a couple of westerns from Timeless that qualify for both my theme in the MYO *and* this one. Once again, I have too much content to squeeze in and some tough decisions to make as to just which ones will get a viewing! :)
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Originally Posted by shadokitty
(Post 11246187)
Sword and Sandal? If that is eligible I have many movies in my MC Warriors collection that I never watched during the B Movie challenge
--- Folk Hero/Mythological (Robin Hood, Greek gods, etc.) |
Re: Verily, Behold! The Third Annual Historical Appreciation Challenge Be Upon Us!
I'll probably take part and watch a few Criterions, though I'll be away for a big chunk of the month.
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Glad to have you back MLS!
I'll be doing a few documentaries with the wifey this time. Maybe a dozen if it rains a lot on my work days. |
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I'm excited to participate! I'm in the midst of taking a summer French course, and watching films has become something of a release for me. There's nothing like escaping into a good story after hours of translation and reviewing verb tenses.
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I'm really looking forward to this challenge too. I'll probably start out with a week or so of war movies then move to mainly westerns. I plan to finally dig into The Films of Budd Boetticher among other things.
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I'm starting off with:
Hondo Ride Lonesome Comanche Station Shenandoah The Professionals Hombre The Shooting Will Penny Support Your Local Sheriff! The Ballad of Cable Hogue Bad Company Jeremiah Johnson Ulzana's Raid Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid The Long Riders Pale Rider The Last of the Mohicans Open Range Yellow Sky After that I'm pretty much going with my mood. |
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I'd like to see a Musical added to the checklist (there was some discussion of this last year), as well as a Contemporary western ("Lonely Are The Brave", "Coogan's Bluff", "Junior Bonner", etc.).
I'll also repeat my annual argument for the inclusion of "Zeitgeist" films, contemporary films that capture a moment in time ("Rebel Without a Cause", "Saturday Night Fever", etc.). Yes, I understand that these are covered by the Wild Card, but for me, the term "Wild Card" carries a certain stigma of "yeah, OK, we'll let it slide" of not really belonging, while I think these films should be front and center. I agree they shouldn't dominate the challenge, but on the other hand, they shouldn't be considered the bastard sons of the Challenge. either. |
Re: Verily, Behold! The Third Annual Historical Appreciation Challenge Be Upon Us!
Originally Posted by omike
(Post 11247140)
I'm really looking forward to this challenge too. I'll probably start out with a week or so of war movies then move to mainly westerns. I plan to finally dig into The Films of Budd Boetticher among other things.
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Originally Posted by pagefrance
(Post 11246174)
Even so, I believe I'm in this year as well if only to see Lawrence of Arabia, which I've never seen all the way through!
Originally Posted by shadokitty
(Post 11246187)
Sword and Sandal? If that is eligible I have many movies in my MC Warriors collection that I never watched during the B Movie challenge
Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
(Post 11246597)
...I figure that anything with Hercules, Samson, Goliath, Achilles, Helen of Troy, etc. is eligible.
Originally Posted by Trevor
(Post 11246757)
Glad to have you back MLS!
Originally Posted by mrcellophane
(Post 11247037)
I'm excited to participate! I'm in the midst of taking a summer French course, and watching films has become something of a release for me. There's nothing like escaping into a good story after hours of translation and reviewing verb tenses.
Originally Posted by Doc Moonlight
(Post 11247749)
I'd like to see a Musical added to the checklist (there was some discussion of this last year), as well as a Contemporary western ("Lonely Are The Brave", "Coogan's Bluff", "Junior Bonner", etc.).
I'll also repeat my annual argument for the inclusion of "Zeitgeist" films, contemporary films that capture a moment in time ("Rebel Without a Cause", "Saturday Night Fever", etc.). Yes, I understand that these are covered by the Wild Card, but for me, the term "Wild Card" carries a certain stigma of "yeah, OK, we'll let it slide" of not really belonging, while I think these films should be front and center. I agree they shouldn't dominate the challenge, but on the other hand, they shouldn't be considered the bastard sons of the Challenge. either. |
Re: Verily, Behold! The Third Annual Historical Appreciation Challenge Be Upon Us!
Originally Posted by minlshaw
(Post 11248405)
the hell with it. I'll add 'em.
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Re: Verily, Behold! The Third Annual Historical Appreciation Challenge Be Upon Us!
Originally Posted by MinLShaw
(Post 11248405)
Zeitgeist films are the gateway films to anarchy and ruin. They are the first slippery step in a steep, slippery slope to no guidelines at all and if we allow them then the terrorists win.
Originally Posted by Doc Moonlight
(Post 11248535)
Victory!!!!
Also, I still need you to clarify for me exactly where you want to see musicals on the checklist. |
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Also at present, there are a few History Channel specials available free on iTunes (in HD, no less!).
America's Book of Secrets: The Monuments America's Book of Secrets: The White House 10 Things You Don't Know About: Benjamin Franklin Titanic: How It Really Sank [National Geographic Channel special] |
Re: Verily, Behold! The Third Annual Historical Appreciation Challenge Be Upon Us!
Originally Posted by MinLShaw
(Post 11248405)
I think this whole challenge is considered the bastard child of the challenges! Zeitgeist films are the gateway films to anarchy and ruin. They are the first slippery step in a steep, slippery slope to no guidelines at all and if we allow them then the terrorists win. Or something. The hell with it. I'll add 'em. Knock yerselves out, y'all. Just do try to remember that the spirit of the challenge is to use cinema to look into the past and not justify counting whatever it is you're gonna watch anyway. (And that holds for all checklist items.)
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Re: Verily, Behold! The Third Annual Historical Appreciation Challenge Be Upon Us!
Originally Posted by Mister Peepers
(Post 11249070)
Does this mean that most noirs would count?
Actually, now that March is the Action/Crime Challenge month I think noirs are probably more appropriate then than in this challenge. |
Re: Verily, Behold! The Third Annual Historical Appreciation Challenge Be Upon Us!
Originally Posted by MinLShaw
(Post 11249106)
Dammit, Doc Moonlight! This is what I was talkin' about! >:(
Actually, now that March is the Action/Crime Challenge month I think noirs are probably more appropriate then than in this challenge. The Godfather was made in the 70s and set in the 1940s, so it counts because it looks back to a past era. Little Caesar and its ilk do NOT qualify because they deal solely with their contemporary period, although it would IMO qualify as a "Zeitgeist" film, but those should be limited. |
Re: Verily, Behold! The Third Annual Historical Appreciation Challenge Be Upon Us!
Will episodes of Little House on the Prairie and Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman qualify?
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Originally Posted by Gobear
(Post 11249146)
No, noirs do not count because they are films set in their present, and this challenge is about films that look at the past.
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Re: Verily, Behold! The Third Annual Historical Appreciation Challenge Be Upon Us!
Originally Posted by Gobear
(Post 11249146)
No, noirs do not count because they are films set in their present, and this challenge is about films that look at the past.
Originally Posted by mrcellophane
(Post 11249338)
Will episodes of Little House on the Prairie and Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman qualify?
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Re: Verily, Behold! The Third Annual Historical Appreciation Challenge Be Upon Us!
Originally Posted by MinLShaw
(Post 11249350)
Yarp. They've been eligible since we started this challenge.
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