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Daytripper 11-13-09 05:55 PM

"Superman Returns" the Bryan Singer Cut
 
Well this came out of no where. Watch the trailer, so many scenes not in the original. Would love to see this. Sign the petition if you do too.

http://www.supermanreturnsthebryansingercut.com/

manicsounds 11-13-09 06:00 PM

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For some reason I always thought Singer got the final cut on the movie.
This is not some fan-wanted recut?

MR Round 11-13-09 06:18 PM

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I want this sooo bad i would buy it day 1

BullGooseLoony 11-13-09 06:18 PM

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I always thought Singer got final cut, too. Not to mention, the biggest problem with Superman Returns wasn't lack of character development, it was lack of action. I'll be onboard if there's more action, but this movie was too self-serious and overlong to warrant a more serious, longer cut.

Moleman1138 11-13-09 06:26 PM

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Excellent movie - yes BETTER than The Dark Knight IMO. Give me around 30 min at least.

smurr05 11-13-09 06:32 PM

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sorry I already bought the Superman 'ULTIMATE' Collection and am happy with the cut of this film in that set. If they wanted to do this they should have put in that collection to begin with. I guess its not so ultimate after all!!!
:(

stingermck 11-13-09 06:34 PM

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Want. Now.

AmityBoatTours 11-13-09 06:46 PM

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Edited
(darn its only a petiton to get wb to release the directors cut)
this is what was suppose to be included in the first home video release of superman returns.

islandclaws 11-13-09 06:52 PM

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[ ] Want
[X] Do not want

AmityBoatTours 11-13-09 06:54 PM

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the return to krypton sequence was the original opening of the film, from what i understand from past articles ive read and interviews the studio had him cut it from the film, but that it was suppose to be reinserted for the home video release of the film but then the movie didnt do as well as wb hoped so they dropped those plans

Sonic 11-13-09 07:16 PM

I like the footage that is missing when Routh exits out of the Pub to go save lois on the airplane...well when he opens up his shirt, they show him going into an alley. I thought that was very cool and felt it added more to that scene. Well that was not on the theater version or DVD nor in the 2nd disc or in that petition trailer. That sequence was only shown in some teaser trailers that can be found on youtube.

drak b 11-13-09 08:17 PM

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I'd buy it if they threw out all the current footage and replaced it with something else. Maybe clips from early Smallville? To go from that Lex Luthor to a retread of Gene Hackman's idiot man-clown Luthor was just so... painful.

milo bloom 11-13-09 09:09 PM

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I'd love to see this. I enjoyed the film for what it was and do think the Return from Krypton would help the epic feel of the story.

canaryfarmer 11-13-09 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BullGooseLoony (Post 9834562)
I always thought Singer got final cut, too. Not to mention, the biggest problem with Superman Returns wasn't lack of character development, it was lack of action. I'll be onboard if there's more action, but this movie was too self-serious and overlong to warrant a more serious, longer cut.

A million times this. This movie needed at least 2 more scenes as good as the airplane rescue to make it anywhere near re-watchable.

Solid Snake 11-13-09 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Moleman1138 (Post 9834571)
Excellent movie - yes BETTER than The Dark Knight IMO. Give me around 30 min at least.

....explain that. The better than TDK cuz SR had some issues that I didn't want. Pace was a huge factor..oh and...the motherfucking kid having powers also being Supes son!

Boba Fett 11-13-09 10:42 PM

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I thought Singer said in hindsight he was glad he cut the Krypton opening as it slowed the pace of the movie too much.

That being said, some of those action sequences (him saving a falling person and grabbing a billboard) do look nifty.

leacha 11-14-09 01:22 PM

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I'm sorry but the Krypton shots, as cool as they are, can not save this film. The story, Kate Bosworth and the kid just kill it for me. To me Routh was a good Superman but its time to move on.

starseed1981 11-14-09 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerCannibal (Post 9834608)
[ ] Want
[X] Do not want

Ditto. Don't need more of a movie who's climax is a guy lifting a rock.

wm lopez 11-14-09 02:43 PM

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The movie needs more cutting than adding.

CertifiedTHX 11-14-09 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonic (Post 9834638)
I like the footage that is missing when Routh exits out of the Pub to go save lois on the airplane...well when he opens up his shirt, they show him going into an alley. I thought that was very cool and felt it added more to that scene. Well that was not on the theater version or DVD nor in the 2nd disc or in that petition trailer. That sequence was only shown in some teaser trailers that can be found on youtube.

I'm not sure to what footage you're referring exactly, but there are, indeed, scenes of Routh leaving the pub, running down an alley, and opening his shirt in the theatrical cut on the DVD.

--THX

mdnitoil 11-14-09 05:10 PM

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If the DC is significantly shorter than the theatrical, then they might have something. The first movie I ever showed my 10-year-old boy that he walked out in the middle of it and asked me to call him when it got good.

bboisvert 11-14-09 08:04 PM

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I really wish they'd just greenlight a Singer-directed sequel. Ultimately, I think a well-executed (non-Luthor) sequel improves Superman Returns more than adding a Krypton-sequence into the existing movie. Although I liked SR and I'd definitely buy any recut offered.

SanityRemoved 11-14-09 08:46 PM

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Having watched this after purchasing the Ultimate Collection the question that ran through my mind was why was this film made? Most of the Smallville episodes made up to that point were more action packed and more interesting.

whotony 11-14-09 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SanityRemoved (Post 9836034)
Having watched this after purchasing the Ultimate Collection the question that ran through my mind was why was this film made? Most of the Smallville episodes made up to that point were more action packed and more interesting.


Really?

canaryfarmer 11-14-09 10:51 PM

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They could have done anything; instead, they completely blew it. I honestly still can't believe that, for their big "bringin' Superman back big time!" movie event, they went back to "Luthor is a crazy land developer" as the conflict. It's embarrassing, it's stupid, and dear god it's been done already. I agree with SanityRemoved: why did they make this movie the way they did? There was no reason to shoe horn it into continuity with (some of) the earlier movies--they could have gone BIG, with true spectacle with the budget they had...instead they went back to the well and pulled up some dirty water nobody wanted to drink.

brayzie 11-15-09 04:18 AM

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I too thought many of Smallville's episodes were better than SR.
The Lex Luthor of the tv show is very intriguing and instead of trying to top that, they go back to the campy goofball interpretation from the late 70s.

I don't think that the new cut will be enough to make this retread of the Donner film any better.

wm lopez 11-15-09 04:19 AM

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Since the first two movies were great I can see why go back to continue that story line.

brayzie 11-15-09 04:26 AM

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I can too. At the time I thought it was a great idea. But I think it shows (in execution) that the director was insecure about his own abilities if he felt like he couldn't bring that much new to the table.

It was like, "remember how awesome the first two were? Well what if Lois got knocked up and he left..." and that's the whole movie. Remembering how good Christopher Reeve and the Richard Donner made the first two.

I like Nolan's approach to the Batman franchise better.

I also found The Adventures of Superboy to have had better stories.

whotony 11-15-09 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by canaryfarmer (Post 9836166)
..... I agree with SanityRemoved: why did they make this movie the way they did? ......

That isn't what Sanity said, he said "why did they make this movie?" period.

I agree more with you that they should have gone in a different direction not that they shouldn't have made the movie.

nodeerforamonth 11-15-09 09:12 AM

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LOL! Petitions... have they ever done anything? Ever?!?!

kgrogers1979 11-15-09 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by nodeerforamonth (Post 9836518)
LOL! Petitions... have they ever done anything? Ever?!?!

They do work... rarely. When Jericho was canceled after the first season, there was a petition to save the show. It worked and we got a second season to wrap up most of the dangling plot lines. It was ultimately canceled again due to low viewership, but we would never have gotten that second season without the petition.

So yes, petitions can work, but the chance of success is something like 1 in 10,000,000.

Darth Maher 11-15-09 12:45 PM

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And weren't petitions partially responsible for the Donner Cut of Superman II?

Cheato 11-16-09 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mdnitoil (Post 9835778)
If the DC is significantly shorter than the theatrical, then they might have something. The first movie I ever showed my 10-year-old boy that he walked out in the middle of it and asked me to call him when it got good.

I hope you were at home at the time.

canaryfarmer 11-16-09 12:44 PM

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He probably realized that the theater lobby had more action than the movie itself.

mdnitoil 11-16-09 12:59 PM

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Heheh...I showed it to him on DVD. Should have qualified that he walked out of the living room...not the theater. He went to play with some toys and told me to call him if there was a good part. I presume he meant something that actually involved some action.

Solid Snake 11-16-09 01:15 PM

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Yeah....what we need is Supes kicking ass and getting his ass kicked by a Super Villain. There's only so much I can care for Supes saving people and CG things.

GoldenWheels 11-16-09 01:50 PM

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Huh. I have at times a notoriously short attention span and I was entertained throughout. Didn't think it was great but I thought it was a successful update.

canaryfarmer 11-16-09 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mdnitoil (Post 9838841)
Heheh...I showed it to him on DVD. Should have qualified that he walked out of the living room...not the theater. He went to play with some toys and told me to call him if there was a good part. I presume he meant something that actually involved some action.

So...did you ever call him back in?

mdnitoil 11-16-09 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by canaryfarmer (Post 9838935)
So...did you ever call him back in?

LOL!

Yeah, I called him in at the end for the final set piece when Supes lifted the big rock. To say that my son was underwhelmed would be an understatement.


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