nezumi

Points taken. I guess I thought part of these challenges was that people seek out new films (or at least new to them), but I can understand if people want to rewatch movies for both challenges. Me? I'm going to try for as little overlap as possible.

caligulathegod

There's as much or as little overlap as you want.

Good category suggestion. I've listed several in the earlier posts and always welcome more. I had another one:
Condemned by the Catholic National Legion of Decency. Also, a film by "The Asylum" film studio (Snakes on a Train, etc.)

chuckd21

Those 20/50/100/200 Movie Packs are certainly cheap enough. What if the challenge was just to make it through one of them? One that was determined by a vote?

I tried doing this over the summer on my blog with the Nightmare Worlds 50 pack. Only got about 15 movies in though. With a forum challenge though I might have kept going.

caligulathegod

I couldn't see why someone couldn't make that a personal challenge. Part of the fun of this, even more than the Horror, is the variety of what other people choose.

NoirFan

I'm in!

Mondo Kane

I got a checklist option, watch (At least) one movie from each of the "42nd Street Forever" series. Complete listings:

Vol-1
THE UNDERTAKER AND HIS PALS
FLESH AND BLOOD SHOW
WOMEN AND BLOODY TERROR
NIGHT OF BLOODY HORROR
I DISMEMBER MAMA
BLOOD SPATTERED BRIDE
CORRUPTION
THE BUTCHER OF BINBROOK
GINGER
THE ITALIAN STALLION
CREAMPUFFS
THE 3 DIMENSIONS OF GRETA
HARD CANDY
THE CENTERFOLD GIRLS
PANORAMA BLUE
WICKED WICKED
TEENAGE MOTHER
CHARLIE AND THE HOOKER
MATANGO
THE GREEN SLIME
DESTROY ALL MONSTERS
THE CRIPPLED MASTERS
WEREWOLVES ON WHEELS
THE PINK ANGELS
THE DEPRAVED (aka EXPOSED)
THEY CALL HER ONE EYE
MAID IN SWEDEN
BEHIND CONVENT WALLS
SECRET AFRICA
SHOCKING ASIA
CHAPPAQUA
WELCOME HOME BROTHER CHARLES (aka SOUL VENGEANCE)
THE 44 SPECIALIST
THE BULLET MACHINE
DEATH DRIVE (aka HITCH-HIKE)
THE RAIDERS OF ATLANTIS
STAR CRASH
THE LEGEND OF ***** CHARLEY
BOSS *****
CONFESSIONS OF A SUMMER CAMP COUNSELOR
SUNSET COVE
SUPERFUZZ
DEATH WILL HAVE YOUR EYES
DEATH HAS BLUE EYES
A BLACK VEIL FOR LISA
IRONMASTER
RAPE OF THE SABINES
THE DEADLY SPAWN
DEVILS NIGHTMARE

Vol-2:
Ms. 45
Born Losers
Rolling Thunder
Dixie Dynamite
Hells Angels on Wheels
The Hellcats
Dragstrip Riot
Stingray
Van Nuys Blvd
Burnout
Dirt
Savage
Kenner
...Tick...Tick...Tick
Take a Hard Ride
Black Samson
The Guy From Harlem
Sugar Hill
When Women Had Tails
I, A Woman
The Curious Female
The Babysitter
Street Girls
College Girls
The Pom Pom Girls
Helga
Invitation to Ruin
Pick-up
Delinquent Schoolgirls
Savage Sisters
Female Jungle
Gigantis, The Fire Monster (aka GODZILLA RAIDS AGAIN)
The Giant Gila Monster
The Hideous Sun Demon
The Monster of Piedras Blancas
Murders in the Rue Morgue
The Woman Eater
The Dark
The Evil
The Evictors
Deadly Blessing
Rabid
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
The Clones
Mission Mars
Mr. Billion
Spy in Your Eye
The Last of the Secret Agents
Trunk to Cairo
Kiss the Girls and Make Them Die
Amazons of Rome
Samson and the Slave
Revolt of the Slaves
The Revenge of the Gladiators
Shogun Assassin
Skatetown USA

Vol-3:
SUDDEN DEATH
THE ONE-ARMED EXECUTIONER
JAGUAR LIVES!
ENTER THE NINJA
LIGHTNING SWORDS OF DEATH (aka LONE WOLF & CUB-BABYCART TO HADES)
FIVE FINGERS OF DEATH (aka KING BOXER
THE STRANGER & THE GUNFIGHTER
BEYOND THE DOOR
DEMONOID
THE NIGHT CHILD
DEVIL TIMES FIVE
PATRICK
JENNIFER
PHASE IV
THE UNCANNY
THE PACK
ALLIGATOR
KILLER FISH
SHARKS' TREASURE
BLOOD BEACH
HOT T-SHIRTS
CHEERLEADERS' WILD WEEKEND
SUMMER SCHOOL TEACHERS
GORP
KING FRAT
PRISON GIRLS
1000 CONVICTS AND A WOMAN
CHAIN GANG WOMEN
THE PENTHOUSE
THE HOUSE BY THE LAKE (AKA DEATH WEEKEND)
NIGHT CALL NURSES
THE YOUNG NURSES
CANDY STRIPE NURSES
THE LIFE AND TIMES OF XAVIER HOLLANDER
THE HAPPY HOOKER GOES HOLLYWOOD
SURVIVE
GUYANA - CULT OF THE DAMNED
SEVEN
SCORCHY
SAVAGE STREETS
HIGH BALLIN'
FROM NOON 'TILL THREE
LIES
TATTOO

Vol-4:
The Syndicate: A Death in the Family
Combat Cops
It Came Without Warning
No Blade of Grass
Yor: The Hunter from the Future
Simon - King of the Witches
The Psychic
Schizoid
Tender Flesh
Die Sister, Die
Silent Scream
New Year's Evil
Mortuary
Humongous
Embryo
The Bogeyman
The Legend of Boggy Creek
The Town that Dreaded Sundown
Gray Eagle
Shadow of the Hawk
Rituals
Americathon
Can I Do It... 'Till I Need Glasses?
Die Laughing
In God We Trust
Undercovers Hero
The Jezebels (AKA SWITCHBLADE SISTERS)
Fighting Mad
Moving Violation
Bonnie's Kids
Walking Tall Part 2
The Klansman
Monkey Hustle
The Soldier
Blackout
Shout at the Devil
March or Die
Hog Wild
The Hard Heads
The Chicken Chronicles
Best Friends
Our Winning Season
Coach
Goldengirl

Vol-5
A Life of Ninja
Sting of the Dragon Masters
The Bodyguard (Chiba)
Mad Monkey Kung Fu
Wonder Women
Lucky Seven
The Shark Hunter
Birds Do It, Bees Do It
Let's Do It!
Chatterbox
Danish Love Acts
Group Marriage
Violated! (AKA RAPE SQUAD)
Caged Virgins (AKA REQUIEM FOR A VAMPIRE)
Message From Space
The Terrornauts!
Mind Warp
Megaforce
Zebra Force
Blazing Battle
James Tont: Operation O.N.E.
International Secret Police
Machine Gun McCain
Stacey
Lightning Bolt
Mission Thunderbolt!
The Three Supermen of the West
Pretty Maids All in a Row
Putney Swope
"Norman...Is That You?"
Redneck County (AKA POOR PRETTY EDDIE)
Moonrunners
The Fabulous World of Jules Verne
The Magic Christmas Tree
Pinocchio's Birthday Party
The Magic of the Kite
The Secret of Magic Island
Karzan, Master of the Jungle
The Norseman
Sorceress
Terror in the Wax Museum
The Manson Massacre
The Devil Within Her
Slaughterhouse Rock

hindolio

^ thats brilliant!

LeeVing

yeah...but there's not many on that list that's on dvd....may have to find an "alternative" way of getting to see a lot of those.

I watched Vol 5 just the other night, so I think I'll start by hunting down those that looked good.

statcat

badmovies.org should be your checklist. That's the site that pretty much got me into these genres to begin with.

caligulathegod

Here's my first draft of a checklist of genres. I also want to come up with another list of studios/releasing, directors/producers, actors. As mentioned, films featured on the 42nd Street Forever collections would be on that checklist. I was also thinking Danny Peary's Cult Movies books might be good, but those were written when even films such as Casablanca were only available through repertory theaters and late night TV so they were actually "cult films". Now, some of those films are too easily available and are of too obviously mainstream to really be what we are looking for here. I just have a hard time considering Wizard of Oz a "cult film", even if it technically was in the pre-VHS days. Obviously, these checklists aren't intended to be completely met, but are good guides for the types of films we are looking for.

Biker Films,
Blaxploitation,
Cannibal films,
Carsploitation
Giallo films,
Mondo films,
Eco-Terror films
Nazisploitation
Rape / Revenge films
Sexploitation
Shocksploitation
Spaghetti Westerns,
Torture Porn
Women in Prison films,
Martial Arts films
Eschploitation (religious end times)
Hixploitation/Moonshiners
Nunsploitation
Stoner Films
Vigilante films
TV Movie Bio-pics
Financial Bombs
Critical Bombs (perhaps some threshold on Rotten Tomatoes or Metacritic)
Roadshow Exploitation
Beach movies
Elvis
Films starring Rock Bands (or Rock stars that didn't become legit actors)
Eurospy films (examples?)
depression era criminals
"Foreign" Ripoff films (like Turkish cinema)
Bollywood
"Race" films (early films made specifically for the African-American market pre-1950)
Films Dealing with "race" (especially pre-1965)
MST3K version of a film
Non-MST3K version of a film featured on MST3K
"Before they were famous"
"Condemned" by the Catholic National Legion of Decency
Bad Sequels

LeeVing

I would also suggest anything in these books...






there's some mainstream movies listed, but are connected to this genre by the director usually.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi

I think you can't really do checklists successfully off of specific lists of movies. Best bet is standard generic styles done in the past with a few directors and actors whose movies are easily accessible. Throw in some genres and some more generic things like beach party, killer animals, etc.

I think the biggest problem to solve first is how to determine which movies are ok and not. I like just going with a rating and vote limit off of imdb along with checking if it's won any awards.

Mondo Kane

And don't forget that there are some on DVD but with alt. titles. The ones that I put a "AKA" by are those that immediately came to mind. I'll do some scooping for more soon.

NoirFan

Also highly recommended is this book, which was my first introduction to the world of fringe cinema:

Mondo Kane

I just did some research and there was more of the 42nd Street selections available on (R1) DVD than I thought. A rundown of what I found:

THE UNDERTAKER AND HIS PALS (Available on many cheapie combo sets, i.e, Brentwood)
FLESH AND BLOOD SHOW (Media Blasters)
BLOOD SPATTERED BRIDE (Blue Underground)
GINGER (Trilogy's available through Monterey Video)
THE ITALIAN STALLION (Recently re-released though Cinema Epoch/
Koch Vision, but I don't think Netflix still has it)
THE CENTERFOLD GIRLS (Dark Sky--But missing on Netflix)
TEENAGE MOTHER (Code Red & Seduction Cinema)
MATANGO (Media Blasters)
DESTROY ALL MONSTERS (Appears to be OOP)
THE CRIPPLED MASTERS (Available on various Mill Creek,St. Clair,Brentwood packs)
WEREWOLVES ON WHEELS (Dark Sky)
THE PINK ANGELS (On BCI's Drive-In Cult Classics Vol. 3)
THE DEPRAVED (aka EXPOSED) (Synapse)
THEY CALL HER ONE EYE (Synapse)
MAID IN SWEDEN (Impulse)
CHAPPAQUA (Was out on Fox Lorber. Long OOP)
WELCOME HOME BROTHER CHARLES (aka SOUL VENGEANCE) (Xenon)
DEATH DRIVE (aka HITCH HIKE) (Anchor Bay & Blue Underground)
THE RAIDERS OF ATLANTIS (Available on Video Asia's "Grindhouse Experience" as "Atlantis Interceptors")
BOSS ***** (Available as "Boss" on VCI)
SUPERFUZZ (Koch Vision)
THE DEADLY SPAWN (Synapse)
DEVIL'S NIGHTMARE (Like Undertaker/Pals, available on a lot of cheapie sets)

Ms. 45 (R1's OOP. But available on netflix & R2)
Born Losers (Image)
Dixie Dynamite (VCI)
Hells Angels on Wheels (Image)
The Hellcats (Rhino,BCI's Exploitation Cinema Collection)
Van Nuys Blvd (BCI's Drive-In Cult Classics Vol. 3)
Take a Hard Ride (Fox/Anchor Bay)
Black Samson (Available this month on Warner)
The Guy From Harlem (Part of Mill Creek's Drive-In Movie Classics - 50 Movie Pack)
I, A Woman (Image release OOP. Might be on Netflix)
The Babysitter (BCI's Drive-In Cult Classics Vol. 3)
The Pom Pom Girls (Drive-In Cult Classics Vol. 3)
Pick-up (BCI's Drive-In Cult Classics Vol. 1)
GODZILLA RAIDS AGAIN (Sony)
The Giant Gila Monster (Can be watced on Hulu)
The Hideous Sun Demon (Can be watched at Youtube)
Murders in the Rue Morgue (MGM)
The Dark (Media Blasters)
Rabid (R1 OOP. R2's available. Might still be on Netflix)
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (Duh)
Shogun Assassin (AnimEigo)

JAGUAR LIVES (Don't know what company it is, but Netflix has it)
LIGHTNING SWORDS OF DEATH (aka LONE WOLF & CUB-BABYCART TO HADES) (AnimEigo)
FIVE FINGERS OF DEATH (aka KING BOXER) (Dragon Dynasty)
THE STRANGER & THE GUNFIGHTER (Video Asia under the title "Blood Money")
BEYOND THE DOOR (Code Red)
THE NIGHT CHILD (VCI)
DEVIL TIMES FIVE (Code Red)
PATRICK (Synapse)
PHASE IV (Fox)
ALLIGATOR (Lionsgate)
CHEERLEADERS' WILD WEEKEND (Recently released on Scorpion Releasing,ADA)
CHAIN GANG WOMEN (BCI's Drive-In Cult Classics Vol. 4,Exploitation Cinema Collection)
NIGHT CALL NURSES /THE YOUNG NURSES/CANDY STRIPE NURSES (All OOP)
THE HAPPY HOOKER GOES HOLLYWOOD (Fox)
GUYANA - CULT OF THE DAMNED (VCI)
SAVAGE STREETS (BCI release OOP)
CONVOY (Cheezy flicks)

Simon - King of the Witches (Dark Sky)
The Psychic (Severin)
Die Sister, Die (Available on many cheapie combo sets, i.e, Brentwood)
Silent Scream (Scorpion Releasing,ADA)
Werewolf Versus Vampire Women (BCI)
Embryo (Available on many cheapie combo sets, i.e, Brentwood)
The Bogeyman (Sony)
The Legend of Boggy Creek (Cheezy flicks)
Rituals (Part of Mill Creek's Drive-In Movie Classics - 50 Movie Pack)
The Jezebels (AKA SWITCHBLADE SISTERS) (Miramax)
Walking Tall Part 2 (Rhino OOP)
The Klansman (Available on many cheapie combo sets, i.e, Brentwood)
Monkey Hustle (MGM and Hulu)
Blackout (Somervile)
March or Die (Lionsgate)
Best Friends (BCI's Drive-In Cult Classics Vol. 1)
Coach (Mill Creek's Too Cool for School Collection)

A Life of Ninja (Tai Seng)
Sting of the Dragon Masters (aka WHEN TAEKWONDO STRIKES) (Crash cinema)
The Bodyguard (Available on a lot of sets. BCI might be the best release)
Mad Monkey Kung Fu (R3 Celestial)
The Shark Hunter (I think this is part of Video Asia's 2nd "Grindhouse" volume)
Caged Virgins (AKA REQUIEM FOR A VAMPIRE) (Image release likely OOP. Netflix still has it)
Lightning Bolt (Rare Flix)
Putney Swope (HVE)
Redneck County (AKA POOR PRETTY EDDIE) (Trinity Home Entertainment)
Karzan, Master of the Jungle (Retromedia,Image)

I'm sure I missed a few...Or maybe by the time the marathon is set to go, there will be some new releases...

caligulathegod

Ooh, looks like we'll have the same support as for the Horror Challenge, and perhaps even prizes. The nature of this challenge lends itself to hyping some sponsors output even more than most other challenges since it's not really a specific genre. If anything, it's a celebration of some studios like Troma, The Asylum, Mill Run, Synapse, Something Weird, etc.

SanityRemoved

TCM Underground has recently been updated for the beginning of the year. Always some good dvr material.

Giles

I recently watched Not Quite Hollywood and there a dozen Aussie movies I simply HAVE to watch for the challenge - notably Razorback

LiquidSky

I have both of these. Groovy books.

Mondo Kane

Turkey Shoot (AKA Escape 2000) for me!

Trevor

Darn! I missed this one by 1,000 years. How was it? No Viking raids on your viewing parties I hope.

caligulathegod

RobCA

I'm assuming pretty much any of the Midnite Movies or Cult Camp Classics would count? If not, they should.

Rob

Giles

oh and that too - it looks gory as sin.

caligulathegod

You know, originally the thought was more just B-Movie/Exploitation/Drive-in Schlock but I honestly can't see why we can't include straight-out Cult Movies. This is what throws away any concept of having some external source as an arbiter of whether a movie would be allowed and not allowed. Some cult movies are highly rated on IMDB for being good examples of their art. Like Death Race 2000. It has 6.1/10 rating with 9,335 votes. Or Rocky Horror Picture Show with 7.1/10 and 38,842 votes. As far as movie selection, this is going to be the most subjective challenge yet. Everyone is going to have his own idea of what constitutes a B-Movie. This is actually what I want. This should really represent your taste, which in some cases will be representative of the opposite of your taste. Some people are probably going to be totally tone deaf as to this genre while others will have no problem. Part of the fun will be to see what others choose for their lists.

Yeah, I think pretty much anything in those Midnight Movies, Cult Classics, Psychotronic, inclusion on the 42nd Street compilations, Something Weird, Troma, most Mill Run collections, etc should count. But they aren't absolute. 2001 a Space Odyssey might be in the Pyschotronic book, but it might be a little high brow for this challenge. I really can't think of anything that would absolutely preclude any movie from inclusion with the exception of Oscars. If a film has won or been nominated for an Oscar in a major category like Best Picture, Best Actor, Best Actress then it probably is not what we're wanting (I'm not including screenplay, because Oscar has been known to be liberal there). There is an explicit exception for "Race" movies made pre-1965. Imitation of Life, both the original and the remake were both nominated for major Oscars. Both are glurge masterpieces. If someone else can think of other examples like this, then let me know. I'm even thinking stuff like Mildred Pierce-type "women's pictures" from the 40s might be exception worthy. Oscar or not, how could you not include most Joan Crawford weepies?

Yes, that means some lists might be filled with classic B-pictures while another might have Andy Milligan flicks but that's part of the fun. Perhaps an award category could be the "toughest slog" (for the list with the most impressive list of hard to watch titles), "widest breadth of genres" (for someone who hits many different types of films), "Most obsessive in a particular Genre" (for someone who watches an excessive amount of one particular genre), etc.

Anyway, "B" is in the eye of the beholder. If someone comes in the thread and asks if Film "A" would count, we can give our opinion, but if someone puts Film "B" on their list, then there should almost never be a reason to discount it.