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Travis McClain 01-04-16 03:47 PM

Re: "Official" DVDTalk Challenges Compendium
 

Originally Posted by davidh777 (Post 12687500)
That's usually been our argument. I think the pre-challenge concept was a compromise. :)

If we're gonna watch them and talk about them during that time, it's just silly not to add them to our lists. I'm in favor of tossing out "pre-challenges" entirely. Either we're actively watching and talking, or we're not. Now get off my lawn.

Trevor 01-04-16 06:13 PM

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Wait, I thought the Academy Awards Challenge was always held from announcement day to ceremony?

Travis McClain 01-04-16 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 12687676)
Wait, I thought the Academy Awards Challenge was always held from announcement day to ceremony?

I thought it was the 30 days before the ceremony, and that the announcement sometimes falls before that window?

Mao 01-04-16 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 12687676)
Wait, I thought the Academy Awards Challenge was always held from announcement day to ceremony?

Yeah, it's always been a 30 day challenge.

Starting it early would mean overlapping with another currently running challenge.

Last year, I did the pre-challenge, but didn't count the films I saw...I just listed them. Might be fun to count only those films nominated for 2016 Oscars during those 15 days...

davidh777 01-04-16 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis McClain (Post 12687678)
I thought it was the 30 days before the ceremony, and that the announcement sometimes falls before that window?

Yeah, the pre-challenge is the first time (in my memory) that we've started on announcement day.

Trevor 01-04-16 07:15 PM

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I'm curious what our participation statistics would show. Is it just the same 25 or so of us doing every Challenge, with the annual October-only crowd? Or do a lot of people only do a couple a year? If I wasn't a few Challenge related projects behind already, I'd do some research.

Personally, I don't think starting a week or two early would hurt. I think it's best to think of the Challenges independently and not worry about stepping on toes. I guess it would 'hurt the numbers' of anyone who really wanted to put up good numbers on both Challenges, but I would hope they wouldn't care too much about that, and that the benefit to those who want to start when the announcements are made outweigh that.

Trevor 01-04-16 07:21 PM

Re: "Official" DVDTalk Challenges Compendium
 

Originally Posted by Travis McClain (Post 12687678)
I thought it was the 30 days before the ceremony, and that the announcement sometimes falls before that window?


Originally Posted by Mao (Post 12687680)
Yeah, it's always been a 30 day challenge.

Starting it early would mean overlapping with another currently running challenge.

Last year, I did the pre-challenge, but didn't count the films I saw...I just listed them. Might be fun to count only those films nominated for 2016 Oscars during those 15 days...

Oh yeah, now I remember. I guess the Academy Awards Challenge has always overlapped with another Challenge, at least once we went to 13 of them, and at least for a day.

Travis McClain 01-05-16 04:54 PM

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The challenge that will overlap with Oscar announcements is TV on DVD*. I see absolutely no reason whatsoever the two of them can't run concurrently. If anything, they're the two challenges that overlap the best, since they're so different in scope. In fact, we moved up the start of TV on DVD* to the day after Christmas in part to accommodate participants who would want to begin the Oscar challenge as soon as possible. I say run:

TV on DVD* - 12/26-1/31
Oscars - announcement - presentation
Action/Crime/etc. - 3/1-3/31
Drive-In/etc. - 4/1-4/30
Make Your Own - 5/1-5/31
Historical Appreciation - 6/1-6/30
Sci-Fi - 7/1-7/31
Animation - 8/1-8/31
Criterion - 9/1-9/30
Horror - 10/1-10/31
Comedy - 11/1-11/30
Holiday - Monday before Thanksgiving - New Year's Day

Mao 01-05-16 05:15 PM

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I know I'm just being anal-retentive about this, but all the past Oscar Challenges have been 30 days...so, we have nothing to compare it to or beat, if we're trying (lisadoris, I'm talking to you!!) ;)

So, what shall we do?: I still think using the extra 15 days from announcement till the 30th to catch any of this year's nominees (or maybe Best Picture winners from the past, etc.) makes it a real challenge. I will have a ton to get through this year.

Then, starting the challenge on Jan. 30 would give us the 30 days that all the other challenges seem to be.

Even if we have that pre-challenge, I will still only personally count the January 30th to Ceremony period to get my usual 30 features in.

Mao 01-05-16 05:23 PM

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Starting this year's Prize Pack* (Best Picture Winners & Nominees) off with:

Places In The Heart DVD

*These are from my personal collection, so some are opened, some are not...

Travis McClain 01-05-16 05:29 PM

Re: "Official" DVDTalk Challenges Compendium
 

Originally Posted by Mao (Post 12688547)
I know I'm just being anal-retentive about this, but all the past Oscar Challenges have been 30 days...so, we have nothing to compare it to or beat, if we're trying (lisadoris, I'm talking to you!!) ;)

Given how many of the prolific movies that qualify for the Oscars, and given that several, if not most, of the current nominees will be in theaters and not available to watch at home, I don't see the additional fifteen days as diluting that challenge.

That said, perhaps to make it more challenging, we could limit using one movie for just one category in the checklist. That makes Titanic no more helpful than Batman in whittling away at a huge swath of the checklist with a single viewing. Think of it as the Senate versus the House of Representatives.

lisadoris 01-05-16 05:41 PM

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Oh my decisions, decisions. I think the Challenge itself should last for 30 days though I have no problem with a pre-challenge that only encompasses this year's nominees. Yes I know I'm one of the few if only obsessive folks who actually aims for 100 titles in 30 days and I haven't decided whether to finish the TV challenge or stop it when the Oscar Challenge officially begins (decisions, decisions).

As for for the one film per category for the checklist, that's what I do anyway but I understand that it takes some work. It won't influence eligibility for prizes but it's an extra hoop for those of us who enjoy such things.

Travis McClain 01-05-16 05:47 PM

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Incidentally, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1/17 & 1/20) and The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1/24 & 1/27) will both play as part of the Cinemark Classic Series, during that "pre-challenge" period. Butch is also part of the TCM Big Screen Classics series, and will therefore play in other chains. I'm still strongly in favor of a full announcement-to-presentation challenge, but perhaps a "pre-challenge" might encompass eligible movies playing in theaters as well as current nominees?

davidh777 01-05-16 08:14 PM

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I understand that OCD may inspire some to want to keep the challenge to 30 days, but it's a little silly. We run the holiday challenge during the logical period for it rather than just 30 days, and as Travis said there's little overlap with TV. But I've made this pitch for past Oscar challenges and won't continue to push it here. :)


Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 12687741)
Oh yeah, now I remember. I guess the Academy Awards Challenge has always overlapped with another Challenge, at least once we went to 13 of them, and at least for a day.

Looking forward to finally updating my sig this year! :dance:


Challenges: TV on DVD* 2016 | Holiday 2015 | Comedy 2015 | Horror 2015 | Criterion 2015 | Animation 2015 | Sci-Fi 2015 | Historical 2015 | Make-Your-Own 2015 | Drive-In 2015 | Action 2015 | Academy Award 2015 | Leap Day 2012

Cardsfan111 01-05-16 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by davidh777 (Post 12688659)
Looking forward to finally updating my sig this year! :dance:

This caused me to go read the 2012 thread. And I found you had posted this back then:


Originally Posted by davidh777 (Post 11133398)
Placing my order for a hoverboard

Though it's hard to call the latest gadget a true hoverboard, that was some prediction you made. :up: :eek:

davidh777 01-05-16 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardsfan111 (Post 12688671)
Though it's hard to call the latest gadget a true hoverboard, that was some prediction you made. :up: :eek:

:dance:

Trevor 01-05-16 08:52 PM

Re: "Official" DVDTalk Challenges Compendium
 

Originally Posted by Travis McClain (Post 12688532)
The challenge that will overlap with Oscar announcements is TV on DVD*. I see absolutely no reason whatsoever the two of them can't run concurrently. If anything, they're the two challenges that overlap the best, since they're so different in scope. In fact, we moved up the start of TV on DVD* to the day after Christmas in part to accommodate participants who would want to begin the Oscar challenge as soon as possible. I say run:

TV on DVD* - 12/26-1/31
Oscars - announcement - presentation
Action/Crime/etc. - 3/1-3/31
Drive-In/etc. - 4/1-4/30
Make Your Own - 5/1-5/31
Historical Appreciation - 6/1-6/30
Sci-Fi - 7/1-7/31
Animation - 8/1-8/31
Criterion - 9/1-9/30
Horror - 10/1-10/31
Comedy - 11/1-11/30
Holiday - Monday before Thanksgiving - New Year's Day

Looks good, but just to clarify, I'm pretty sure that the Academy Award Challenge has and/or will in the future conflict with Challenges on both sides of February due to the random months/dates of the event.

Originally Posted by davidh777 (Post 12688659)
Looking forward to finally updating my sig this year! :dance:

Oh, that's not what I meant my that 'day' comment, but yes, I'm excited for Leap Day.

Originally Posted by Cardsfan111 (Post 12688671)
This caused me to go read the 2012 thread. And I found you had posted this back then:



Though it's hard to call the latest gadget a true hoverboard, that was some prediction you made. :up: :eek:

David, please buy me a Powerball ticket tomorrow.

Travis McClain 01-05-16 08:59 PM

Re: "Official" DVDTalk Challenges Compendium
 

Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 12688690)
Looks good, but just to clarify, I'm pretty sure that the Academy Award Challenge has and/or will in the future conflict with Challenges on both sides of February due to the random months/dates of the event.

Sure. That's why I just left it at announcement date - presentation date. Or, if you prefer algebra:

Oscar Challenge runs from (x) to (y), where (x) = date of announcement and (y) = date of presentation.

lisadoris 01-07-16 05:43 AM

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I don't know if this will influence anyone's thoughts on when the Oscar Challenge should officially being but TCM's 31 Days of Oscar will begin on February 1. I don't know if there are people who rely on TCM's schedule to complete their Challenge.

popcorn 01-07-16 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by lisadoris (Post 12689692)
I don't know if this will influence anyone's thoughts on when the Oscar Challenge should officially being but TCM's 31 Days of Oscar will begin on February 1. I don't know if there are people who rely on TCM's schedule to complete their Challenge.

So are we starting this year's challenge on January 30th? That's 30 days prior. And are you running it again, lisadoris?

davidh777 01-07-16 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 12688690)
Oh, that's not what I meant my that 'day' comment

:sad:

Trevor 01-07-16 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by davidh777 (Post 12689844)
:sad:

No no no! I'm definitely doing our quadrennial Challenge! I was just being verbose and saying that the Academy Award Challenge would always overlap another at least one day.

Mao 01-07-16 11:26 AM

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I'm still of the opinion that a 46 day challenge is simply too much.

Anyone else's thoughts on this:

Pre-Challenge: January 14th (Announcement Morning) to January 29th (where you can watch any nominee announced on the 14th until the challenge begins and have it count)

Challenge: Starts at dusk (or midnight) on January 29/30th to February 28th (Close of Ceremony) (30 days)

Trevor 01-07-16 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis McClain (Post 12688698)
Sure. That's why I just left it at announcement date - presentation date. Or, if you prefer algebra:

Oscar Challenge runs from (x) to (y), where (x) = date of announcement and (y) = date of presentation.

Being overly prone to attempted clarification yet again, my original non-specific mention of which other Challenge was affected was not to slight the current TV* Challenge, but just staying generic due to the randomness of the Academy Awards date.

lisadoris 01-07-16 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by popcorn (Post 12689776)
So are we starting this year's challenge on January 30th? That's 30 days prior. And are you running it again, lisadoris?

Yep I'm running it and we're still hashing out the start date (see previous posts).


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