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Giles 01-14-09 12:13 PM

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Lust Caution actually had a NC-17 rating not 'unrated'

mattysemo247 01-14-09 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Giles (Post 9197643)
Lust Caution actually had a NC-17 rating not 'unrated'

You can get the NC-17 one from Netflix, that's where we rented it from

canaryfarmer 01-14-09 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDuke (Post 9197606)
Lust, Caution comes to mind.

The NC-17 cut is easily available on dvd as well. (L,C was never "unrated" in theaters, IIRC.)

edit: that's what I get for leaving this tab open so long.

FILMCZY 01-14-09 04:13 PM

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Here are a couple random examples..

From the dvd release of "Grizzly Man" according to IMdB:

The DVD from Lions Gate Home Entertainment opens with a disclaimer stating that the film has been changed from its theatrical version. The sole change is in the first ten minutes where Herzog explains that Treadwell had become a semi-celebrity. In the theatrical version a clip is shown of Treadwell on CBS' "Late Show with David Letterman." Treadwell comes out and explains what he has been doing and Letterman quips, "We're not going to open a newspaper one day and read about you being eaten by a bear are we?" In the DVD version this exchange is omitted and replaced with a NBC news segment of Treadwell being interviewed. When the interviewer asks if he would ever want a gun to protect himself, Treadwell states that he "would never, ever kill a bear even in the defense of my own life."

From Theremin: An Electronic Odyssey (1994) according to IMdB:

The uncut version of the film contains a segment from "The Mickey Mouse Club" (1955) that is not available in any of the home-video releases.

canaryfarmer 01-14-09 04:26 PM

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I thought I read somewhere that Letterman himself asked that the interview be taken out.

man*machine 01-14-09 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by canaryfarmer (Post 9198504)
I thought I read somewhere that Letterman himself asked that the interview be taken out.

The theatrical version with the Letterman sequence was definitely shown on cable tv (IFC or one of those) after the film was already on DVD. So maybe Letterman only objects to DVD's, but not tv-broadcast, if he's the reason for the alteration?

FILMCZY 01-15-09 11:48 AM

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According to IMdb, the following was added, deleted, or altered for "Saving Silverman":


R-Rated DVD/VHS release includes about 4 minutes of added footage, consisting mainly of two scenes, one in a Subway restaurant where JD is showing his trainees to his boss, and another in a laundromat where Darren and Sandy are drying their clothes after falling in the water. Also, 3 uses of the word "fuck" are added, among other dialogue, and the scene with the hookers playing ping-pong has them topless, rather than wearing the bras they had in the theatrical release.


In the trailer for the film, when Steve Zahn's character is doing "yoga" he has digitally added underwear, while in the film he is nude.

Giles 01-15-09 12:05 PM

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this isn't a case of being censored, but VHS video versions of 'Talking Heads: Stop Making Sense' had the songs 'I Zimbra/Cities' within the structure of the film. On the DVD, the songs are part of the disc's supplementary section.

Jay G. 01-15-09 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by man*machine (Post 9198687)
The theatrical version with the Letterman sequence was definitely shown on cable tv (IFC or one of those) after the film was already on DVD. So maybe Letterman only objects to DVD's, but not tv-broadcast, if he's the reason for the alteration?

I thought it was simply an economic issue, that the distributor didn't have enough cash to secure all the rights to that clip, so only secured theatrical rights. When Discovery Channel aired it, they paid for the rights to use that clip in the TV version, as well as producing the 30-minute "follow up" special that aired after the film.

The video releases of The Wonder Boys removed a small mention of a real-life person a character references as a suicide. The family of the person sued the production company because that person's death was officially determined to not be a suicide.

As for the OP: it appears the scene did exist in the PG-13 theatrical cut:
http://jackandjill.tktv.net/news.html

1.26.01 - From Entertainment Weekly: The trailer for Saving Silverman, due February 16th, has been caught in a cover-up. Seems that two scenes in the PG-13 film, about two pals trying to rescue Jason Biggs from marrying the wrong woman, were deemed too risqué by the MPAA for a trailer aimed at general audiences. So a pair of blue briefs were digitally painted onto a naked, yoga-practicing Steve Zahn.

This site mentions it's a deleted scene on at least one of the DVDs:
http://mikesquickreviews.com/s.htm

My Other Self 01-15-09 11:06 PM

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Although this was mainly done due to the nature of the joke, the Volume 1 set of Family Guy is cut. Road to Rhode Island is missing the bin Laden showtunes joke at the airport.

The uncut episode is in the Freakin' Sweet Collection, though.

hasslein 01-16-09 12:21 AM

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A lot of the Mexican sex comedy movies are edited. Buenos Y Con Movidas is edited more than the television edit, although the back of the box says contains nudity, no dice...

Alan Smithee 01-16-09 04:29 AM

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The extra songs in Stop Making Sense were added for the first video release- the DVD shows it the way it was in theaters, with the extra 2 songs as separate material.

One that's always bugged me is Scary Movie omits the line from the loudmouth in the movie theater saying "Brad Pitt's ex-girlfriend is a real freak!" Brad Pitt and said ex-girlfriend objected to that, so they took it out for the video release.

The first video release of Big omits Jon Lovitz saying "She's our company Welcome Wagon" after the real Welcome Wagon objected. Wall Street alters a line that was originally "The only things moving around here are the cockroaches and the Puerto Ricans". Don't know if these have been fixed for the DVDs.

Lastdaysofrain 01-16-09 07:24 AM

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Revenge of the Nerds cuts out an entire sequence where they find their house because the real estate sign had a real phone number on it.

Alan Smithee 01-16-09 08:38 AM

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That REALLY pissed me off since it's one of my favorite movies. The older editions of that movie aren't cut.

I actually saw "Bruce Almighty" in the theater, and the pager with God's phone number had a real number on it. I heard that was changed to a 555 number for the DVD.

macnorton 01-16-09 09:52 AM

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The Grizzly Man DVD is news to me (I did see it in theaters), but it doesn't really alter the film, in my opinion.

The thing that boils my blood is when TV shows get altered. Family Guy, as noted above, was done because the joke was in bad taste after 9/11. That I can fully understand. But releasing WKRP without any of the songs...that isn't right. Sad thing is, there are many TV shows out there that have been altered and the uninformed consumer (and the total lack of this being mentioned on the packaging...or the lame ass Paramount version) is the one who gets the shaft. Personally, I believe if a studio wants to alter something, they should inform the buyer about what is being altered. I don't think we need to know the why, only the what.

Lastdaysofrain 01-16-09 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by macnorton (Post 9202580)
The Grizzly Man DVD is news to me (I did see it in theaters), but it doesn't really alter the film, in my opinion.

The thing that boils my blood is when TV shows get altered. Family Guy, as noted above, was done because the joke was in bad taste after 9/11. That I can fully understand. But releasing WKRP without any of the songs...that isn't right. Sad thing is, there are many TV shows out there that have been altered and the uninformed consumer (and the total lack of this being mentioned on the packaging...or the lame ass Paramount version) is the one who gets the shaft. Personally, I believe if a studio wants to alter something, they should inform the buyer about what is being altered. I don't think we need to know the why, only the what.


See I think the exact opposite of you. Nothing should be censored for content, regardless of if people think something in in bad taste or not, that's the show, that's how it aired, it happened, if you don't like it don't watch it.

In relation to music rights, that's a money issue, that makes sense, if you can't release a show and make money on the release (because you've spend more money on music rights than the show will make in sales) then you have to makde some edits or not release it at all. Studios don't cut music because they don't like it or are jerks, it's all down to money.

macnorton 01-16-09 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lastdaysofrain (Post 9203060)
See I think the exact opposite of you. Nothing should be censored for content, regardless of if people think something in in bad taste or not, that's the show, that's how it aired, it happened, if you don't like it don't watch it.

In relation to music rights, that's a money issue, that makes sense, if you can't release a show and make money on the release (because you've spend more money on music rights than the show will make in sales) then you have to makde some edits or not release it at all. Studios don't cut music because they don't like it or are jerks, it's all down to money.

I am saying I understand why it was removed. That particular instance makes sense...Seth McFarlane was to be on one of the flights that crashed into the towers, and I am willing to bet that might have been a part of it too.

Music rights are a sticky one. Yeah I get it is a money thing, but when you the consumer have no idea that something has been altered until you buy it, that doesn't sit will with me. All the studio has to do is add in a paper insert detailing the changes...that is all I am asking for. I think that is doable, right?

CertifiedTHX 01-16-09 07:07 PM

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The Santa Clause has been edited to remove the line, "1-800-SPANK-ME? I know that number." I think someone called the number and got connected to an actual phone sex line. On TV it's replaced with "1-800-THE-POUND"; on DVD the scene is cut altogether. As far as I know, the original VHS release is the only way to watch the scene intact.

--THX

lee_hero 01-16-09 08:36 PM

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In the first episode of Heroes, "Genesis", the scene were Claire Bennet sticks her hand into a garbage disposal labeled "InSinkErator" has been edited. Emerson Electric Company sued NBC over the scene claiming that it showed one of their products in an unsavory light. All rebroadcasts of the episode and all dvd's containing the episode are the edited ones.

NBC, which is owned by Emerson's main competitor General Electric, and Emerson settled out of court.

nezumi 01-16-09 09:24 PM

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Are we talking about actual censorship in this thread, or are we really talking about alternate cuts of films? That's how it's reading so far.

To contribute:

Time Rider -
Spoiler:
Peter Coyote gets chopped up by helicopter blades in the theatrical cut, but survives in the DVD cut.


Maybe the "PG" version was the only print available to Anchor Bay, but I would give almost anything to see that scene restored.

canaryfarmer 01-17-09 02:33 PM

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Yeah, people have gotten pretty off-topic from what kind of censorship the OP was referring to. Legal edits and music rights aren't really what he meant, I think.

Rypro 525 01-27-09 02:18 AM

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i don't know why these were edited, but the Robin Williams Live on Broadway dvd is slightly edited from the original hbo broadcast. Its like 30 seconds worth of lines. My guess would be improvs where he mentioned something that couldn't get cleared.

Pizza 01-27-09 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by nezumi (Post 9204121)
Are we talking about actual censorship in this thread, or are we really talking about alternate cuts of films? That's how it's reading so far.

To contribute:

Time Rider -
Spoiler:
Peter Coyote gets chopped up by helicopter blades in the theatrical cut, but survives in the DVD cut.


Maybe the "PG" version was the only print available to Anchor Bay, but I would give almost anything to see that scene restored.

That's an odd switch. Didn't really like that scene much anyway as it looked so cheap.
Spoiler:
His two boots remaining on the rock.

Mark Waters 01-27-09 06:53 PM

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Is their a version of Mulholland Dr. Uncensored?

JLyon1515 02-01-09 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Waters (Post 9227187)
Is their a version of Mulholland Dr. Uncensored?

No. Regardless of what people say in this thread, Mulholland Dr. IS censored in the Theatrical version. I has seen in two times in the theater since the big "cooter blur" fiasco, and both times, I look specifically for the blur, and can see it.

I think the issues about this whole thing come from semantics of those quoted.

Lynch stated that the film was digitally censored (that doesn't mean that it was only for the DVD release, it could be for the film version too).

Herring has stated that Lynch and her made a deal that the scene would be censored when the film was released (that doesn't mean ONLY for the DVD, it could be for the film version too).

Like I said, I've seen the blur twice in the theatrical version. Once in Rochester, New York and once in Seattle Washington. I had to be looking for it though. So people who say it wasn't there, I think it was just so dark that they think it wasn't blurred out.

DivxGuy 02-04-09 02:19 PM

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Drive-In Cult Classics 4's version of Chain Gang Women is heavily edited.

LosingMyMind 02-04-09 02:20 PM

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The R2 of House IV is missing 7 seconds of blood running down a woman's breasts.

Darth Maher 02-04-09 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Lastdaysofrain (Post 9202316)
Revenge of the Nerds cuts out an entire sequence where they find their house because the real estate sign had a real phone number on it.

Why didn't they just digitally alter the number?

hasslein 02-05-09 05:55 PM

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Embryo (1976) , every version I have found has been heavily edited. Also Desert Warrior, starring Lou Ferrigno is edited. Every edition I've found of Zorro (1975) starring Alain Delon is a mess.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 02-05-09 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee (Post 9202443)
That REALLY pissed me off since it's one of my favorite movies. The older editions of that movie aren't cut.

I actually saw "Bruce Almighty" in the theater, and the pager with God's phone number had a real number on it. I heard that was changed to a 555 number for the DVD.

776-2323, which was funny watching in a theater because that was a local number where I am.

edit: and a quick google search shows someone still has it. I remember reading a story in the paper saying it was some old lady's number. Not sure if it's the same one.


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