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Michael Corvin 12-25-08 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by starman9000 (Post 9154617)
Please, X brought up the idea of doing it. Who is jumping to conclusions here? You are right about the drama queens though, but it's coming from both directions.

:lol: Touche!


Originally Posted by Thor Simpson (Post 9154713)
Yes, I have met Geoff personally. He sat down and had a beer with me and several other members on a number of occasions. I'm sorry you missed out. He also was an active participant in a lot of threads on a personal level, including posting pics and having fun at his own expense. Call me when IB does the same. Otherwise I'll treat this like any other web site and spend money only if I find value in the features that the additional money permits. Thanks for your concern. I think IB is capable of running this as a for-profit website and all I am saying is that I would have essentially "donated" $20 to Geoff for his efforts whereas a "faceless company," as you put it, simply needs to offer a valuable service for the price. Again, this is in no way a dig against IB. It's just business. I do hope to enjoy the premium membership someday if the features make it worth my while. And I find it odd that you feel I should want to spend my money otherwise.

:rolleyes: Point out where I told you how to spend your money? I'm not telling anyone anything. I'm just trying to understand how(outside of a few members who met him) giving to Geoff is any different than the company now in charge. The site is the same either way. :shrug: So far no one has been able to explain it other than the simplistic "support mom & pop over wal-mart" stance. And again, they could have just shut the place down. I'm sure if that was in the cards people would be hitting that paypal button pretty quick.


Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 9155134)
You may have not, but I've seen comments calling people that paid suckers or sheep, and questioning the "support" of a corporation over Geoff. It isn't like those of us that have paid are the sitting around chiding those that haven't.

Exactly.

As of now the features don't match the price, at all, but as most are saying after so many great years (regardless of who runs the place), what's a few bucks for some goofy features?

Th0r S1mpson 12-25-08 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 9155363)
I'm just trying to understand how(outside of a few members who met him) giving to Geoff is any different than the company now in charge.

Outside of the members who developed some sort of relationship with Geoff over the years, I don't think anyone is saying this. :shrug:

Who cares, this whole "arguing" bit is stupid. :lol:

Let's just all go eat some crackers and relax. I'll go first.

Michael Corvin 12-25-08 09:29 PM

:lol: Sounds good. :up:

Spiderbite 12-26-08 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by brianluvdvd (Post 9151585)
So if I join up for the premium membership, as a longtime member, can I please change my user name?

"brianluvdvd" is so 1999.

I was serious about this question. Mods...any answers?

Darth Maher 12-26-08 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by Sessa17 (Post 9153946)
There are two things in this thread that I find abolutely hillarious. The people posting that they can't afford the $10, yet they have around a thousand DVDs if not more. And the people posting that they are waiting for paychecks to come in, so they can go premium. I mean holy crap $10 is such an insignificant amount, at least I thought so. Maybe it's just me, but if $10 was such a big deal to me, I probably wouldn't be spending so much time at a DVD message board, & maybe focus on some other priorities.

You DO realize though that it is Christmas season and that $10 is probably spent elsewhere like on a gift for someone?

Sessa17 12-26-08 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Darth Maher (Post 9156323)
You DO realize though that it is Christmas season and that $10 is probably spent elsewhere like on a gift for someone?


What I "DO" realize is that it's just $10 freakin' dollars. If you or anyone spends the $10 on a premium membership, & then doesn't have another $10 to spend on a gift, that is just sad. Again, the deep contemplation people here are putting into a insignificant amount of money just utterly amazes me.

Also, who on earth buys people $10 presents?

Drop 12-26-08 11:53 AM

Why are people being so judgemental? If IB wants to add premium features let them, if people want to pay let them, they aren't taking away anything. If some one doesn't want to pay, it shouldn't matter to anyone else.

Can't we all just get along? (until us premium members talk behind all your backs in our forum, anyway) :)

GoldenJCJ 12-26-08 12:20 PM

Damn, I leave for a couple days and come back to the DVDTalk Civil War?! Merry Christmas to all...

Darth Maher 12-26-08 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by Sessa17 (Post 9156342)
What I "DO" realize is that it's just $10 freakin' dollars. If you or anyone spends the $10 on a premium membership, & then doesn't have another $10 to spend on a gift, that is just sad. Again, the deep contemplation people here are putting into a insignificant amount of money just utterly amazes me.

Also, who on earth buys people $10 presents?

Well consider me sad then. We are in a recession ya know.

And there are plenty of DVDs to be found for less than $10.

fumanstan 12-26-08 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Sessa17 (Post 9156342)
What I "DO" realize is that it's just $10 freakin' dollars. If you or anyone spends the $10 on a premium membership, & then doesn't have another $10 to spend on a gift, that is just sad. Again, the deep contemplation people here are putting into a insignificant amount of money just utterly amazes me.

Also, who on earth buys people $10 presents?

I've gotten small gifts for people that cost $10 or less. Just little trinkets.

starman9000 12-26-08 12:26 PM

Most of the gifts I buy people are $10-$15. :) (and I've noticed kids tend to enjoy those cheaper presents more anyway)

Sessa17 12-26-08 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Darth Maher (Post 9156453)
Well consider me sad then. We are in a recession ya know.

Yes, but you have people posting that they can't afford $10 for premium, yet they have over a thousand DVDs. It's really just a dorkier version of the prime mortgage fiasco in here.

As for the $10 gifts, that was sarcasm.

Quake1028 12-26-08 02:12 PM

I would have hated for you all to have been on IGN went they went practically Insider only for the entire community, forcing you to pay $20 to keep accessing the same stuff you were before with virtually no benefits.

ctyankee 12-26-08 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by Sessa17 (Post 9153946)
There are two things in this thread that I find abolutely hillarious. The people posting that they can't afford the $10, yet they have around a thousand DVDs if not more. And the people posting that they are waiting for paychecks to come in, so they can go premium. I mean holy crap $10 is such an insignificant amount, at least I thought so. Maybe it's just me, but if $10 was such a big deal to me, I probably wouldn't be spending so much time at a DVD message board, & maybe focus on some other priorities.

Yeah, well what I find "absolutely hilarious" is someone playing Lego Batman giving advice about focusing on "other priorities." Mkay?

TomOpus 12-26-08 02:19 PM

We'll spend an extra $15-$30 for a limited edition version of a DVD just because it has some plastic figures, lobby cards and a number.... no one bats an eye.

All hell breaks loose if one spends $10 on a forum that pointed me in the direction to buy said limited edition DVD.

TheMovieman 12-26-08 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by TomOpus (Post 9156599)
We'll spend an extra $15-$30 for a limited edition version of a DVD just because it has some plastic figures, lobby cards and a number.... no one bats an eye.

All hell breaks loose if one spends $10 on a forum that pointed me in the direction to buy said limited edition DVD.

Maybe some find more value in those than spending money on a forum? (I don't know, I'll sign up once I see features I'd use).

cgray 12-26-08 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by Quake1028 (Post 9156583)
I would have hated for you all to have been on IGN went they went practically Insider only for the entire community, forcing you to pay $20 to keep accessing the same stuff you were before with virtually no benefits.

I think I would prefer this (above).

If DVDTalk were a pay site for $10/year, and the explanation from IB was, "We are not making the ad revenue we needed to keep this going. We're asking for a small membership fee," I would jump on. As it is, I am just kind of against the idea of dividing the forum along "premium"/non-premium lines, and having secret/"premium" threads on the forum.

Amazon prime is a premium privilege, but it doesn't make the non-prime members feel like something is going on behind their backs.

As for the above arguments regarding the premium membership fee, I don't feel that I have any standing to say whether $10 is a little or a lot for another person, or to help them prioritize their purchases.

As for the value, $10 seems astronomically high for the actual benefit conferred. If I were to join, it would not be for avatars, or for a countdown feature (???), or to support IB (or Geoff/Geoff's memory). It would be because I am scared that the deal portion of the site will gradually move to the premium pages, and by not buying for $10 with a coupon now, I'll be forced to shovel over $20 by the time that change occurs.

Again, as per mods' posts above, I do not think this concern is unjustified. Price mistakes are a great example of deals that may not spread to the main site in an effort to keep them from FW, SD, etc. So, this concern, if realized, does mean that IB took away something that the all members used to enjoy for free. So: :thmbsdwn: I'm bummed this is where DVDT is headed.

pro-bassoonist 12-26-08 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 9155233)
A moose once bit my sister.

Was the moose hurt? :)

Pro-B

fumanstan 12-26-08 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by cgray (Post 9156651)
I think I would prefer this (above).

If DVDTalk were a pay site for $10/year, and the explanation from IB was, "We are not making the ad revenue we needed to keep this going. We're asking for a small membership fee," I would jump on. As it is, I am just kind of against the idea of dividing the forum along "premium"/non-premium lines, and having secret/"premium" threads on the forum.

Amazon prime is a premium privilege, but it doesn't make the non-prime members feel like something is going on behind their backs.

As for the above arguments regarding the premium membership fee, I don't feel that I have any standing to say whether $10 is a little or a lot for another person, or to help them prioritize their purchases.

As for the value, $10 seems astronomically high for the actual benefit conferred. If I were to join, it would not for avatars, or for a countdown feature (???), or to support IB (or Geoff/Geoff's memory). It would be because I am scared that the deal portion of the site will gradually move to the premium pages, and by not buying for $10 with a coupon now, I'll be forced to shovel over $20 by the time that change occurs.

Again, as per mods' posts above, I do not think this concern is unjustified. Price mistakes are a great example of deals that may not spread to the main site in an effort to keep them from FW, SD, etc. So, this concern, if realized, does mean that IB took away something that the all members used to enjoy for free. So: :thmbsdwn: I'm bummed this is where DVDT is headed.

I think the possibility of hiding good deals is greatly exaggerated, let alone being able to keep them confined to a specific forum and DVDTalk itself.

mnementh 12-26-08 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by cgray (Post 9156651)
If I were to join, it would not for avatars, or for a countdown feature (???)

I'd pony up $10 if the cash went towards hiring a professional writer who'd copyedit the occasional mishap in the better newsletters and reviews and who'd take drastic steps in dealing with the amateurish ones.

Drop 12-26-08 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by cgray (Post 9156651)
Again, as per mods' posts above, I do not think this concern is unjustified. Price mistakes are a great example of deals that may not spread to the main site in an effort to keep them from FW, SD, etc. So, this concern, if realized, does mean that IB took away something that the all members used to enjoy for free. So: :thmbsdwn: I'm bummed this is where DVDT is headed.

That's stuff that was never guaranteed in the first place so it could never be taken away. And there's nothing stopping someone in the premium forum from posting for everyone else. And there's nothing stopping someone on the free parts from discovering it first. You have a better chance of finding a deal than we do making it exclusive, because there are more free members.

It's unjustified because people could just privately PM eachother about a deal before and still can, so I find it silly to complain about something that is not a feature in the slightest. Unless you want PMs taken away.

cgray 12-26-08 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Drop (Post 9156719)
That's stuff that was never guaranteed in the first place so it could never be taken away.

Guaranteed? Who said anything about guarantees? What site makes guarantees?

You live in the real world and come to appreciate and/or expect certain things from certain sites. That's why you go there (or don't). I'm not sure what to make of your post.

Anyway, I don't mean to be inciting. I was just posting my thoughts on what's been going on.

Edit: ^ I'm not sure I understand your point about PM's either. Which premium member do I PM in order to find out about deals or sales that I don't know exist?

Drop 12-26-08 04:03 PM

You seem to think the premium membership will take away deals that would otherwise be posted on the free forums and you think that makes complaining about it justified. Sounds like you expected something to happen, which sounds like a guarantee to me.

I'm saying that that they aren't taking anything away, and that a deal doesn't have to be posted, someone could just PM another member on the forum, with or without a premium membership. So that deal you expect someone to post could never be posted anyway.

In other words, for clarities sake, you can't take away something that isn't guaranteed.

johnbook 12-26-08 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by brianluvdvd
So if I join up for the premium membership, as a longtime member, can I please change my user name?

"brianluvdvd" is so 1999.


Originally Posted by brianluvdvd (Post 9156109)
I was serious about this question. Mods...any answers?

I too would love a response to this question, been a member since 2000 and would consider signing up with a user name change.

Sessa17 12-26-08 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by ctyankee (Post 9156594)
Yeah, well what I find "absolutely hilarious" is someone playing Lego Batman giving advice about focusing on "other priorities." Mkay?

Huh? I haven't given advice to anyone. I just said what I would do, if I was one of the people who can't afford $10. But I'm not, $10 as I've stated is rather insignficant, that's why I signed up. And what does Lego Batman have to do with anything? Yeah I play it, but I'm not the one complaining about how much money $10 is & how hard the economy is. I'm not the one posting that I have to wait for a paycheck to come in just do I can sign up for a premium membership. I make plenty of money to support the economy & enjoy my pastimes & gladly do so (especially the Blu-Ray industry lately), so I think my priorities have been just fine so far.


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