100 Movies. 31 Days. The 4th Annual "October Horror Movie Challenge" (Oct 1-31) Pt 2
 

Continued from: http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/53...1-10-31-a.html

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2005 ~ 2006 ~ 2007

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<Table border> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD BGCOLOR=#000000 ALIGN="center" ><FONT FACE="Arial"><B>THE "RULES"</B></FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial">Since '05 the goal of the challenge has been to reach 100 horror/horror-related films. Your personal goal is as high or as low as you want it to be. Whether you achieve it, surpass it or don't even come close to reaching it, the ultimate goal here is to enjoy yourself while conversing with fellow horror fans.</FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD BGCOLOR=#FFA500 ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial"></FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD BGCOLOR=#FFA500 ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial">There will be a separate thread to include your lists as indicated above. Be creative and personalize it however you wish - In 1 post, weekly, biweekly, give reviews, post pics, provide IMDB links to your titles, add YouTube videos, include running times (calculating total times is up to you), etc. It's recommended that you provide a link to your list(s) in your signature for easy access. The only mandatory rule here is NUMBER YOUR LISTS! </FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD BGCOLOR=#FFA500 ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial"></FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial">What qualifies? If you're unsure of your title's genre classification the IMDB and allmovie are good sources to determine its potential horror movie status. If you're still uncertain or think it's listed incorrectly, ask...that's what this thread is here for! Horror-comedies, Sci-Fi horror, shitty horror (Prom Night remake, anyone?), kiddie horror, creature features, erotic horror, Masters of Horror (Yesssss, they're considered movies) silents, made-for-TV movies, etc. count. Mini-series count as 1 despite the running time. Legitimate stand-alone horror documentaries count. No fluff! One that isn't a featurette produced exclusively for a film's DVD as supplemental material. For example, don't try and pass off the DVD featurettes, interviews, making of and the like as part of your list. TV shows don't count (except those used as wild cards).</FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD BGCOLOR=#FFA500 ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial"></FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD BGCOLOR=#FFA500 ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial">Keep it civil - take the arguments, name calling and accusations elsewhere. Don't accuse someone of "not having a life" simply because they're able to watch more in a day than you. Remember, not everyone keeps the same schedule and some of us require less sleep than others. And above all, don't let your competitiveness turn ugly and start unnecessary accusations against your fellow participants. If you feel someone has padded their lists just leave it alone. If you have a personal beef with someone settle it anywhere but here ...the IMDB boards for instance. ( Anger Management Techniques :D ) Keep in mind this is done solely on the honor system.</FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD BGCOLOR=#FFA500 ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial"></FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial">The same film can't be viewed more than once. Remakes are the exception to the rule. In other words, don't go back and watch the theatrical version of "Pale English Titty Vampires Part III: The Anemic Areola" after already having viewed "Pale English Titty Vampires Part III: The Anemic Areola SPF 666 Edition". The same holds true for all versions: director's cuts, unrated editions, colorized versions, fan edits, extended editions, "the version you supposedly couldn't see in a theater", etc. Honestly, why waste precious time watching the same bloody thing over again when there's so many great titles just waiting to be discovered out there? Pick your favorite cut and be content with your decision! </FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD BGCOLOR=#FFA500 ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial"></FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD BGCOLOR=#FFA500 ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial">Vote for you favorite commentary option:

1. Half credit option. Allow commentaries only after one has viewed the film with the proper soundtrack. If you do choose to go back and listen w/commentary it's worth half a credit/point.
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2. 7 commentary limit. Self explanatory.
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3. WINNER ---> The "with or without" option. Same as last year. <--- WINNER

</FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD BGCOLOR=#FFA500 ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial"></FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial">The formats and where/how you watch them is strictly your call -- DVDs, Blu-ray, HD DVD, at the theater, on television, public domain downloads (links provided below), VHS, Laserdisc, Video On Demand, Netflix, UMD, MiniDV, CED, Unbox, Apple TV, Watch Now, Payperview, Betamax, via laptop, VCD, Video iPod...you name it. And yes, that even includes the pan & scan edited-for-television movies on TBS with multiple pop-ups and commercial interruptions! (NOT Recommended, BTW!) Just make sure the movie is viewed in it's entirety ...especially those of an adult nature!</FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD BGCOLOR=#FFA500 ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial"></FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD BGCOLOR=#FFA500 ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial">Nothing to see here. Move along!</FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD BGCOLOR=#FFA500 ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial"></FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial">If you do watch non-genre titles during the month and feel the need to include them in your list that's alright, but please keep them separate from the qualifying ones and don't number them. The preferred method would be to post them in the "What Are You Watching This Week" thread. Once again, NUMBER YOUR LISTS or my doppelgänger will haunt your dreams!</FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD BGCOLOR=#FFA500 ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial"></FONT></TD> </TR> </Table> <!-- ------------------------- --> <!-- END OF CONVERTED OUTPUT --> <!-- ------------------------- -->





<Table border> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD BGCOLOR=#000000 ALIGN="center" ><FONT FACE="Arial"><B>OPTIONAL</B></FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial">6 WILD CARDS (courtesy of caligulathegod) - This allows you to add a TV show, Halloween cartoon, short film, etc...and have it count. As always, the challenge wouldn't be complete without wholeheartedly recommending "It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown" as essential viewing. </FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD BGCOLOR=#FFA500 ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial">ORANGE</FONT></TD> </TR><TR VALIGN="top"> <TD ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial">THE CHECKLIST - Complete it and feel a sense of accomplishment.</FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD BGCOLOR=#000000 ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial"></FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD BGCOLOR=#FFA500 ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial">ORANGE</FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial"></FONT></TD> </TR> <TR VALIGN="top"> <TD ALIGN="left" ><FONT FACE="Arial">THE "31 FILMS FOR 31 DAYS" LIST (courtesy of Trevor) - Watch these 31 films on the listed day, with group discussion starting the next morning. Or don't watch them but still join the discussion. Click HERE for thread.
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Turner Classic Movies ---> October 2008 Schedule of Qualifying Titles:


http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n172/dvdchad/TV.jpg TIPS, SCHEDULES & LINKS:

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<em>TCM October Schedule --> Complete

TCM October Schedule --> Daily

AMC FearFest '08

Netflix Watch Instantly (Watch Now) --> Horror

Monsters HD

HDNet October Schedule

Chiller Schedule

Scream Television Schedule

FOX Movie Channel Schedule --> Skip to the last 2 days of the month.

FearNet

DVD Stalk

IMDB --> Horror

Public Domain Horror Films --> Archive.org (Some are Sci-Fi) -or- PDT</em>

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<em>Provide a link to you list(s) in your signature.
Give reviews. Even if it's just a mini-review, a simple :up: / :down: or one word description.
Increase your coffee consumption.
Insomniac? Use it to your advantage!
Work from home? Ditto.
Cut down on your Internet time. Instead of constantly discussing movies...watch them!
Skip the supplemental material ...there's always November for that!
Boredom setting in? Watch another movie!
ENJOY YOURSELF!</em>

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<em>Free month of Netflix:

See this thread.</em>

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<em>Free month of Blockbuster:

http://www.blockbuster.com/acctmgmt/...ion?pc=friend1</em>

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^{<em>The challenge officially begins} Wednesday, October 1, 2008 @ Midnight (EST).</em>
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As is usually the case, there's been a few minor changes made to this year's challenge. They are due to your feedback taken from this thread and are the following:

• New this year is The "31 Films for 31 Days" List to encourage group discussion.
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• Horror documentaries are still allowed, but the "fluff" taken from DVD supplemental material (making of, featurettes, behind the scenes, etc.) no longer count. Some legitimate examples include: "100 Years of Horror", "American Nightmare", "Fear in the Dark" and "Halloween: 25 Years of Terror".
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• Pending your votes, a commentary rule change is a possibility.
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• The Wilds Cards have been doubled to 6.

Yes, I realize everyone doesn't always agree on allowing commentaries, the 40-minute rule, the exclusion of TV shows, etc. But the fact of the matter is it's damn near impossible to satisfy everyone, that's the sole reason the feedback thread was created and your input was taken accordingly.


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NEW

This is an optional subset of the overall challenge. Watch these 31 films on the listed day, with group discussion starting the next morning. Or don't watch them but still join the discussion.

The "31 Films in 31 Days" Thread

-Courtesy of Trevor


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There are 6 wild card options. The wild card can be used for any horror related item, including It's the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown, various halloween Bugs Bunny cartoons, Roseanne or Simpsons Halloween episodes, X-Files or Angel the Series episodes, etc.


-Courtesy of caligulathegod


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Watch one film from every decade of film history.
--- 1890 - (insert film title here)
--- 1900 -
--- 1910 -
--- 1920 -
--- 1930 -
--- 1940 -
--- 1950 -
--- 1960 -
--- 1970 -
--- 1980 -
--- 1990 -
--- 2000 -

Watch a film for each rating:
--- Unrated (pre-MPAA) - (insert film title here)
--- G -
--- PG -
--- PG-13 -
--- R -
--- NC-17 -
--- X (not porn; several horror films were rated X) -
--- Unrated (post-MPAA) -

Watch a film starring:
--- Bela Lugosi - (insert film title here)
--- Lon Chaney Sr. -
--- Boris Karloff -
--- Lon Chaney Jr. -
--- Vincent Price -
--- Peter Cushing -
--- Christopher Lee -
--- Robert Englund -
--- Bruce Campbell -
--- Jamie Lee Curtis -

Watch films in at least two languages other than English.
--- First language, (insert language), (insert title).
--- Second language, (insert language), (insert title).


Watch a film in each of the following subgenres/types:
--- Vampire - (insert film title here)
--- Frankenstein -
--- Werewolf -
--- Mummy -
--- Invisible Man -
--- Ghost/haunting -
--- Witchcraft/satanic/religious -
--- Zombie -
--- Slasher/psycho/homicidal maniac -
--- Monster/creature feature/Godzilla -
--- Documentary -
--- Musical -
--- Spoof/comedy -
--- Revenge -
--- Killer/evil doll -
--- Killer/evil animal -
--- Killer/evil child -
--- Giallo -
--- J horror -
--- MST3K/rifftrax/CT -
--- film and its remake -
--- based on a video game -
--- based on a novel -
--- directed by Herschell Gordon Lewis or Uwe Boll or Ulli Lommel -
--- won an Academy Award -- any category -
--- silent film -
--- Criterion version film -
--- with commentary -
--- film and at least two of its sequels -
--- anthology film -
--- takes place on a holiday -
--- takes place in space -
--- takes place on or under the sea -
--- animated film -
--- called "Night of the ..." -
--- called "Return of the ..." -
--- called "Revenge of the ..." -
--- called "Attack of the ..." -
--- with the words "Living Dead" in the title -

(One film could fill multiple items. Example: Dracula would fill one for decade, rating, actor, vampire, based on novel, and maybe others as well.)
(Use a * to mark first time viewings.)
(Change "---" to "-X-" or some similar mark when you have completed that line item.)
(First one to fill in all the blanks wins a random DVD from Trevor.)

-Courtesy of Trevor ...and more


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New thread started due to length.

Someone remind me to start another and contact a mod when this one gets around the 800 mark.

[REC] was a great movie. Iw as excited to see the remake "Quarantine," but after seeing [REC] I have a hard time believing they'll be able to top or even make a movie as good as this one was. Plus now I know what people meant when complaining that the trailer for "Quarantine" gives too much away.

Yeah, I'm pretty much the same way. I wish we had this challenge back then. I would have probably been in the Top 10 at least. In fact the year that I turned 30, I spent the first few days of one of my vacation weeks watching most of the Alien Quadrilogy.

the trailer does give too much away

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word of note, anyone who doesn't want to be given too much detail about the plot, don't read Fango. Needless to say it pretty much negates [REC]'s little twist.

random observations from page 3 and 4 of the list thread
 

I agree. Looking to get that Melies boxset once I find a good deal on it.
It's not a competition.
Nice! Is she still onboard the horror train with you?
Superior movie to the sequel? I completely agree. And no need for a wildcard, it definitely counts as Horror.
Looking forward to seeing Idle Hands again. And thanks for the Terrified description, I'll have to add that to my queue.
You've watched a lot of stuff with this being one of the only "positive" comments. I wish you better luck in the rest of your movies.
I still hum that song almost every time I eat a tomato. And I envy your first time experience with IotBS.

I know, after I saw [REC] I couldn't believe they gave that away in the trailer for "Quarantine." Now everyone who sees the movie isn't going to be shocked, and it's a shame.

Fango and Rue Morgue like to spoil movies. It's true. They should be shot.

Too late. :( Unfortunately I made that very mistake and was planning on including it in this challenge. Fango is a great horror publication, but it's probably in ones best interest to wait until after seeing the actual film before reading any of their articles because they've always been bad about spoilers.

And come to think of it, Tony Timpone has been guilty of the same a few times on FANGORIA Radio.

The Rue Morgue letters section is notorious for spoilers, and Rue Morgue gave away the endings of Hostel 2, Audition, and the MOH episode Pelts. I was pretty pissed when I read that. I love both the magazines, but I try to skip any article about anything I don't want spoiled for me.

I'm about a day behind in updating my list, just posted yesterday's watches.

I also wanted to take a moment to show my gratitude for this challenge and its participants. I've seen some great films, thanks to many of your comments/write-ups/recommendations. I watched the three shorts (from 1895, 1903, 1910 years) yesterday, and I was so amazed. I'm a movie lover, but stuff like that I wouldn't have looked for if it wasn't for you guys/gals. Feel free to read my take on them.

Well, off to more watching!

Just a heads up but I watched Return to Sleepaway Camp just now and besides 2 amusing deaths (one w/ a bunkbed, one with a jeep) the film is perhaps the worst horror film I have ever seen.

In no way were the original worth viewing either (well, 1's ending was good).

I see talk of REC on here. Haven't seen it yet but do you mean the trailer for Quarantine ruins a twist in REC or is Quarantine a remake or what? I listened to a trailer at gamestop and it sounded pretty good.

Oh and personally I try and do my watching from home, my work is dead right now so I have the ipod, psp and most of the pc's have dvd players so depending on where I'm at I can always watch a film.

I just watched The Abominable Dr. Phibes for the first time, and I must say I was quite impressed. Imaginative, ornate set pieces and a wonderful sense of composition are aided by an editing style that is almost abstract at times, helping make the film truly unique within the horror genre. It's hard to believe that this wonderfully inventive, strangely poetic film was released by drive-in schlock peddlers AIP.

You're in for more good times then, because the sequel is really good too.

AIP put out some good stuff amidst the schlock. They handled most of Vincent Price's best movies in the 60's, as well as introducing the US to some great Euro-horror (albeit in dubbed form).

IMO, this is one of the best made-for-tv horror movies of the 70s. For kids who grew up in that era, there are a couple of images that seem to repeatedly seer their way into memory - the Zuni doll from "Trilogy of Terror" and the little demons in this one. I recently rewatched this a couple of months ago, and I was surprised at how well it held up. The demons even looked decent, considering they were really midgets in costumes. Damn shame this doesn't have an official DVD release. Just curious Peepers ... why did you consider the ending poor? I thought it ended on an absolutely chilling note ...

Well I just used my first wild card EVER. I've never used one any other year, since I have well over 100 horror movies in my collection. But I just bought the Charlie Brown box set and watched It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown which I haven't seen since I was a kid. And chose to use one of my wild cards for that.

I must ask: What movie is REC? (I dread when movies are referred to only by their initials because half the time I can't figure out what flick is being talked about.)

Chad - You should change your countdown to how many days left until the challenge is over (i.e. get watching!!)... just a thought.

I wish my region free player didn't die. I really wanted to watch the 4 Phantasm movies, I have never seen them before.

All right, confession time: I have never seen a Hammer Studios film. I know, I know. I think it's because I have never been as drawn to the Dracula, Frankenstein thing. I've always gone a bit more for slashers. Anyway, I'm rectifying that in this challenge. I just got Curse of Frankenstein from Netlix and am excited to watch it.

But I was wondering: What do you all consider the top Hammer films? I want to try to get a good sampling this month, but it will be a good reference for me in the future as well.

Wow, it's only fourth? It's definitely my favorite although I can understand why Blazing Saddles tops most lists. What are the three Mel Brooks flicks you like better?

The Devil Rides Out; Horror of Dracula.

A few of my favorites are:

Brides of Dracula
Paranoiac
Curse of the Werewolf
Devil Rides Out
Night Creatures

and if you can find it Vampire Circus (I know, silly title) is top notch

Blazing Saddles, Spaceballs and History of the World. Although History of the World and Young Frankenstein could go either way. If I had wrote that yesterday I may have said third instead. I will say Young Frankenstein seems to have more heart than any other Mel Brooks movie. It's got a deeper story mixed in among the silly jokes.

See I liked the original ones, the first one was great, the other 2 were just there for a good laugh. My question is: Was Angela a decent sized role, or was it just a cameo?

I got a copy tonight to watch so we'll see.

As for Hammer films, I'm often a little on the fence with them. Sometimes they're just way too talky for me (I recall it taking over an hour for Frankenstein Created Woman to get going) but I've definetly ran into a few that I've liked. Gonna check out Brides of Dracula some time around next week.

I agree with this choice. Fine film!

Well as for Return to Sleepaway Camp, everyone and their mother needs to skip this piece of garbage. I won't ruin it for anyone but let me just say I saw the ending coming a mile away!

where is everyone seeing this at? i thought it didn't come out until november.

That is the title. [REC] is short for Record, as in the label on the LED light on a video camera.



As to Hammer, I prefer the Frankenstein films over the Dracula ones. The Frankenstein films are actually about the doctor (the occasional monster tends to be kind of lame, but the films aren't about the monsters) while the Dracula films are like Godzilla films where they spend all their time on other characters and Dracula shows up for 10 minutes total each movie. This isn't always the case, but more often than not.

Oh, Vampire Circus is a masterpiece.

To answer the questions about [REC], it is the original movie upon which the new horror movie Quarantine is based. It's a Spanish horror flick and it's one of the best I've seen in years. The remake, Quarantine, looks good, but now that I've seen the original I realize that the trailer for Quarantine gives away most of the twists of the movie. I really hate it when trailers do that.

I'm enjoying reading everyone's comments here. If no one minds a shameless plug, the inclusion of the checklist inspired me to watch those early attempts at horror films "The execution of Mary, Queen of Scots" and "Frankenstein (1910)" and I wrote about the experience in my monthly column for the website Cinema Crazed, if anyone wants to read it: http://www.cinema-crazed.com/h-q/longwinded16.htm

Nice article! Small typo on the year of Shelley's novel, should be 1818.

Also, you give a lot of credit to Edison personally, but I'm not sure how personally involved he was with the films. It could have been wrong, but I read a couple times over the years that he was more the owner/financier, and not really involved in most of the films his studio produced.

Again, what I read could have been wrong. Great article, thanks for sharing!

See I liked the original ones, the first one was great, the other 2 were just there for a good laugh. My question is: Was Angela a decent sized role, or was it just a cameo?

Eh.... she's in it no more than 3 minutes.

And yes the ending was seen coming from near the start. It's just so bad and not even in a good way.

As for the guy asking where we are seeing it, it's on-line... I can't mention where but it's so easy to watch media in your bedroom that anyone could search for it.

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So, should I see REC before Quarantine then? I can't seem to find a copy and I'm amazed the remake is already coming out, wasn't this released this year?

regarding [REC] - the UK 2-disc is the version to get, as for Quarentine it's coming out tomorrow - I'm gonna check it out, but know I'm not going to be impressed with the changes.

You are right. Not too much credit should actually go to Edison in this regard. He's not even the true inventor of the Edison motion picture camera! He came up with the concept, it was done in his labs, which means he owned the patent, which means that legally he invented it, but the actual work was done by a guy named William Kennedy Laurie Dickson.

Thank you film history class!

Anyway, if anyone is interested:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Kennedy_Dickson

And thanks to everyone for the Hammer recommendations. I did like Curse of Frankenstein, but it was weird seeing the monster played by Christopher Lee! I always knew he played this role and all the other classic movie monsters, but it was just weird after all the other things that I have now seen him in.

But anyway, I'm looking forward to more. How's the Hammer version of The Mummy? I still need a mummy movie for the checklist.

Is Vampire Circus one that I can import?

Edit to Add: It looks like German release is the best one followed by the UK. Anyone vouch for the quality?

Here's a quick spoiler free review of Return to Sleepaway Camp (sorry, it was well after 3am when I got done watching and I was tired).

The movie had such great potential what with having 3 of the original actors from the first film and the writer/director of the first one back as well. But, they spend half the film with this annoyingly bad fat actor kid who does nothing but yell at everyone. He never calms down whatsoever. He has an unhealthy obsession with frogs, doesn't seem to have any other clothes than the ones he wears throughout the movie. It doesn't seem like the writer/director even knew where he was going with this at all. I think he was trying too hard to come up with another surprise ending, but failed so bad it was ridiculous. It's embarassing to see Isaac Hayes in this movie, especially since he's in the movie for a collective of 3 minutes and then his character just disappears just like the fat kid. After half the movie, he just disappears, but believe me I'm not complaining. The fat kid was just so over the top, and annoying. I was very intrigued by this movie especially since Felissa Rose was coming back to play Angela, but the way they worked it out (which is exactly how I figured it was going to work from seeing the trailer) is sad. I heard that they were making a 5th film, but IF they are it better contain Angela a lot more, because the way they played it off was terrible. I'm glad I was able to see this for free instead of buying it like I was going to.

but were the death as over the top and plentiful as II and III, that was fun about the sequels they were just slay-athons.

As stated by wlverinefactor earlier there really are only 2 good deaths in the film. Some of the deaths like the deep fryer kill and a kill involving rats seemed too much like other kills in the series. I really think this film would have been so much better had they focused more on Angela and the others from the original film.

I agree with you on Return to Sleep Away Camp. Not sure if I mentioned it here or on my movieblog but some of the deaths (including one of the better ones) feel to elaborate to have just pulled off on chance. Sure we shouldn't over think the idea, it's a horror film but it isn't like Jason or anyone sets up a giant chain of events that may or may not work within mere moments of it all being presented to them.

On a happier note I finished [REC] and it's easily the best horror film in 8 or so years. Just awesome. I was creeped out, I jumped, ect. The ending left a bit to be desired but all and all it worked well, solid acting and despite an obvious twist I loved it. I'll have the gf bring me back the region 2 dvd in January. I viewed the trailer for the remake and it ruins most of the best parts, too much is shown from the end so I'm hoping they have more to offer after the originals final scenes. I'll either see it tomorrow or pray it's on-line quickly...

I watched Five across the Eyes last night.

Extremely low-budget, made for around 4000 dollars, with three digital cameras, which never leave the back seat of the van.

To say this was wild would be an understatement, the first 6 minutes you feel like your watching a ridiculous, student film, with atrocious acting, but then it begins to feel so real, its like you are right there with these girls.

It's not for everybody but people wanting to watch something different should give it a shot.

Lots of great Hammer titles to choose from. A good starting point would be:

Horror of Dracula
Brides of Dracula (my personal favorite)
Curse of Frankenstein

From there I would add The Mummy and the Frankenstein sequels....The quality of Hammer stuff begins to suffer in the early 70's, but there are still some worthwhile titles from that era......

I would also like to recommend Brides of Dracula.

My two other favorites are Kiss of the Vampire and the rip roaring kung fu gothic vampire story Legend of the 7 Golden Vampires.

Seriously.

Another fine film that has the look of a Hammer Film but isn't one is The Asphyx.