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bunkaroo 03-27-08 02:00 PM

I got the first five seasons for $20 each so I'm not rebuying them, plus I think 4:3 suits the show. I'll also be disappointed if S6 comes 16x9.

bluetoast 03-27-08 02:34 PM

There is only one episode that was legitimately released in 16x9 (and it felt pretty weird), and that was in the 4th or 5th season. Other than that, 16x9 is unacceptable as an only option. Unfortunately, this seems like it might be the case for season 6 (and possibly 7).

Cosmic Bus 03-27-08 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by macnorton
If they do s6 this way, I will not buy it.

I feel this way, as well. Luckily I've seen this season on FX, so at least I was able to watch it once in the proper format. Too bad that my DVD collection of the series is now going to be incomplete, though. :(

[edit] I would recommend contacting SPHE to voice our displeasure over this:
[email protected]

Perhaps someone has or knows where to obtain a more specific address e-mails could be sent to -- someone who might actually read and be able to pass along consumer concerns, as opposed to this e-mail, which will likely result in a generic "thank you for contacting..." response.

BSTNFAN 03-27-08 06:17 PM

Did the OAR change when FX-HD started? All I want is OAR. All my monitors (even the one in the minivan) are 16:9, but that doesn't mean I want matted or stretch-o-vision where it shouldn't be. If the OAR was changed for FX-HD then 16:9 is fine, but if that means it was recorded in HD then give me the Blu-Ray, as well.

Boba Fett 03-27-08 08:08 PM

Went back to Costco today and they must have restocked since they had all 5 seasons, 16x9, for around $27-$28 a season.

DVD Polizei 03-27-08 08:45 PM

I'd like to see both versions on these sets, to be able to switch between AR's when so desired.

Egon's Ghost 03-28-08 05:41 AM

I'll say it again: 16:9 (not "x" or "by") is the new full-screen.

Josh Z 03-28-08 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by Egon's Ghost
16:9 (not "x" or "by")

That's an awfully anal-retentive distinction. They all mean the same thing.

bluetoast 03-28-08 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Egon's Ghost
I'll say it again: 16:9 (not "x" or "by") is the new full-screen.

full-screen?! No no no no no my friend. It's "fullscreen". Not "-" or FullScreen, but "fullscreen".

rfduncan 03-28-08 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by bluetoast
full-screen?! No no no no no my friend. It's "fullscreen". Not "-" or FullScreen, but "fullscreen".

Jesus. It wasn't funny when you did it with Blu-ray, and it ain't funny now... just OT. -ohbfrank-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_screen

bluetoast 03-28-08 12:27 PM

While we're on the subject of wikipedia articles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

For further clarification on the matter, please read on.

The validity of my method of writing "fullscreen" was not important. Rather the intended effect of my post was to point out the ridiculousness of arguing the semantics of how to properly write an aspect ratio. By showing a multitude of possible representations of a similar word familiar to home theater aficionados (the aforementioned "fullscreen") this effect was achieved.

Okay, now back to The Shield.

stingermck 03-28-08 12:48 PM

Looks like season 6 is 1.78:1

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Shield-Season-6/9266

bluetoast 03-28-08 12:49 PM

Damn. Not good.

Gord Lacey 03-28-08 01:03 PM

Guys, I'm going to get to the bottom of this. When these sets were first announced I asked someone at Sony if it was widescreen and I was told it's the same thing Fox released (which means 1.33:1). Given that information, I had assumed that it was some incorrect information floating around regarding the new specs. Now it appears the person I spoke to didn't work on the title, and made an assumption that the sets were the same. This person had to rush off to a meeting and won't be able to physically check the set for another couple of hours.

If these new sets are 16:9, and not 4:3, I'll contact Shawn Ryan and get a quote from him. He's said all along that the show is supposed to be 4:3, and I had the pleasure of sitting in the editing room with him and watched as they edited the 4:3 footage. 4:3 is the correct aspect ratio, and everything done from shooting to editing is done with that aspect ratio in mind. I have the original DVD sets, and I'll be pissed if season 6 and 7 are released in 16:9.

Gord

Gord Lacey 03-28-08 02:12 PM

The seasons 1-5 DVDs are widescreen. Let the revolt begin.

Gord

stingermck 03-28-08 03:45 PM

Hmm open matte maybe? Or shot wide, and cropped to 1:33?

Josh Z 03-28-08 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by stingermck
Hmm open matte maybe? Or shot wide, and cropped to 1:33?

In television production, typically series are shot on film using a 3-perf process, which has an aspect ratio around 16:9. For 4:3 broadcasts, the center of the frame is extracted and the sides chopped off.

This is different than feature films, which are usually shot using 4-perfs for a ratio of 1.37:1, then matted down to 1.85:1 for theaters (masking off the top and bottom).

Using 3-perfs per frame vs. 4 saves a lot of film stock, and hence money.

Jah-Wren Ryel 03-28-08 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by bluetoast
For further clarification on the matter, please read on.

Refrain from the explain.
If you are going to shoot for the LCD,
you might as well just spell it out the first time around.

aintnosin 03-28-08 07:13 PM

http://www.tvguide.com/images/pgimg/shield49.jpg
What? The 16:9 DVD weren't bootlegs? Oops, sorry about that, kid!

Peep 03-29-08 01:25 AM


Originally Posted by Gord Lacey
The seasons 1-5 DVDs are widescreen. Let the revolt begin.

Please let us know Shawn Ryan's opinion on the matter the next time you're in an editing booth with him.

bluetoast 03-29-08 02:53 AM

Heh, nice picture.

DVD Polizei 03-29-08 03:11 AM

Aren't the US extras and deleted scenes in 1.78:1?

JayDerek 03-30-08 02:07 PM

Some screen shot examples (not perfectly timed ones, but should give the general idea)

The packaging for these newly released sets are exactly the same as the fifth season one...(white cover) - same outer box size and slim cases that hold (2) DVD's.

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As far as I can tell, the picture quality seems to be the same (grain and all).

First group of shots are from the Pilot episode in Season 1, the second group is from the first episode in Season 2 (starring the pre-Veronica Mars, Kristen Bell)

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stingermck 03-31-08 10:38 AM

Awesome, thanks for the pics. Im kinda torn though. Some shots look better in wide, others in full. And i'm a sucker for slim sets, since my tv collection is huge.

And having uniform in the boxes, which season 5 has allready thrown off. (also looking at you L&O, Alias, etc :) )

macnorton 03-31-08 11:56 AM

Sorry those suck. Once again big studios mess with success.


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