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Originally Posted by joltman
Do you really think it could possibly be legal?
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Originally Posted by DeadMADMAN
This isn't the deal people make it out to be. Ever since I was a kid, stores would exchange items that were not purchased there as a "courtesy" to maintain business. I can't tell you how many birthdays I had as a child where I received two identical items. These were in the days before gift receipts so we would just go to any old store and exchange the item for something else. They either resell it or send it back to the distributor.
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I have often thought about doing this, but chickened out. I mostly do my shopping at CH anyway so DVDs are normally only about 5 bucks a piece anyways.
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Originally Posted by kefrank
let me be clear: i don't think it's wrong if you tell them that the item you're exchanging was not purchased there and they still agree to process the exchange. that is something else entirely.
I agree there is something unethical about lying and saying you got something at a place when you didn't but anytime I have ever exchanged anything, especially lately, the process is so fast an automated that I don't believe they honestly care nor have they ever asked. As long as you are not misrepresenting the item you purchased and they do not specifically have a policy against it or ask you and receive a dishonest answer in return, I can't fathom anything being remotely wrong with this. |
Originally Posted by DeadMADMAN
Not to play the devil's advocate here but what if they don't ask if you bought it there?
I agree there is something unethical about lying and saying you got something at a place when you didn't but anytime I have ever exchanged anything, especially lately, the process is so fast an automated that I don't believe they honestly care nor have they ever asked. As long as you are not misrepresenting the item you purchased and they do not specifically have a policy against it or ask you and receive a dishonest answer in return, I can't fathom anything being remotely wrong with this. |
What about buying a dvd with a slipcover, and you make sure the one you are buying has the price on both the dvd and the slipcover. Then keeping the slipcover and returning the movie. In essence, getting the slipcover for a movie you have without the slipcover. I don't see how the store is losing money, since it was their merchandise, and there were dvd's on the shelves with and without slipcovers. I often swap dvd's and slipcovers anyway to make sure I get a copy that is as mint as possible. I hate peeling those sealed stickers on the top of the dvd and ruining the artwork because it was sticking out from under the plastic.
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The thread starter definitely needs to be banned. This is the stupidest thread I've ever seen. What are you, a 12 year old?
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die thread! die!
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Originally Posted by mr. b_dvd
What about buying a dvd with a slipcover, and you make sure the one you are buying has the price on both the dvd and the slipcover. Then keeping the slipcover and returning the movie. In essence, getting the slipcover for a movie you have without the slipcover. I don't see how the store is losing money, since it was their merchandise, and there were dvd's on the shelves with and without slipcovers. I often swap dvd's and slipcovers anyway to make sure I get a copy that is as mint as possible. I hate peeling those sealed stickers on the top of the dvd and ruining the artwork because it was sticking out from under the plastic.
So "stealing" the slipcover is obviously wrong. It deprives the retailer of an increased opportunity to actually sell the product. |
Originally Posted by Trevor
Slipcovers are an incentive. More people will purchase a DVD if it has a slipcover. It's why they make them.
So "stealing" the slipcover is obviously wrong. It deprives the retailer of an increased opportunity to actually sell the product. It makes sense since most companies stop manufacturing the slipcases after they are no longer a "new release" and thus not as in demand. |
Originally Posted by Kory
The thread starter definitely needs to be banned. This is the stupidest thread I've ever seen. What are you, a 12 year old?
Kind of what I was thinking. This tag switching...Yeah, I gotta say the THOUGHT has occurred to me in the past...when I was younger, much younger, and ONLY as a joke idea. Nothing I ever would have seen through. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that there are people who also got the same idea and pulled it off, but really...are any mature adults out there doing this? If you have money issues that severe that you have to cheat a store in to selling you a DVD that costs a few more dollars for less then you have serious issues that should be resolved before you consider buying DVDs at all. |
Originally Posted by DeadMADMAN
Keep in mind that security at Walmart is unbelievable. If they see you shuffling around DVDs they will be on your ass even if you aren't technically ripping them off for any money. So self checkout may make it a tad easier but I would really reassess attempting changing the slipcovers just to get one for you already purchased dvd.
So I guess my point is I am sure they certainly have measures in place to prevent this from happening at the self check out. I am not sure what...and I am not going to be applying for a job there any time soon to find out...but it boggles my mind how much work and effort people will exert just to "save" a few dollars on something like a DVD or some other crappy merchandise. Maybe it's more of a psychological thing that they "got one over" on the store, a rush or something. |
Originally Posted by DeadMADMAN
I disagree. Not only do I not think they are incentive for most people (us collectors being the exception but I dont have a single friend that cares about them) but I think they were first created as an extra theft deterrent. I remember a friend that worked retail explaining the process of how people steal by tearing of the wrapping and a whole process and surprisingly, these covers are just an extra step to make it harder.
It makes sense since most companies stop manufacturing the slipcases after they are no longer a "new release" and thus not as in demand. |
Originally Posted by calhoun07
Wal Mart was my first job experience, and that was when pterodactyls ruled the skies, so I can't really speak for their security measures today, but I know back when I worked for them they were on the cashier's asses to make sure that customers were doing the type of thing the OP suggested, among other tricks we were advised customers would pull to get merchandise out of the store unpaid for.
So I guess my point is I am sure they certainly have measures in place to prevent this from happening at the self check out. I am not sure what...and I am not going to be applying for a job there any time soon to find out...but it boggles my mind how much work and effort people will exert just to "save" a few dollars on something like a DVD or some other crappy merchandise. Maybe it's more of a psychological thing that they "got one over" on the store, a rush or something. Obviously some people do it to try to save a buck...but the people that do it constantly have some sort of compulsive disorder. With me, I get a rush from finding something on sale at a ridiculous price. |
Wow, some of you guys are rude. I was definately not doing these crimes. I just made one to see WHO did these, although I'm sure nobody will come out admitting it. I was curious because the thought occured to me waaaay after people even did this and no, I'm obviously not an adult if you're wondering. I'm just a curious person who isn't as old as adults but aren't as young as children trying to find out what was bothering me. Rude people, really. And you guys call yourselves mature. Ignorant pricks.
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The sad thing is, I remember somebody positing this exact same question a long time ago. He actually did it though and was looking for support for how clever he was. Numbnuts.
Originally Posted by moviewizguy
I'm obviously not an adult if you're wondering.
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Originally Posted by moviewizguy
Wow, some of you guys are rude. I was definately not doing these crimes. I just made one to see WHO did these, although I'm sure nobody will come out admitting it. I was curious because the thought occured to me waaaay after people even did this and no, I'm obviously not an adult if you're wondering. I'm just a curious person who isn't as old as adults but aren't as young as children trying to find out what was bothering me. Rude people, really. And you guys call yourselves mature. Ignorant pricks.
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<i>Mod note: As people have stated this basic premise of this thread is pushing the limit of what is allowed on the forum. Trading slip covers to get rip off a store is definitely illegal. Additionally the general demeanor of the thread is not what we like to encourage here on DVDtalk. Again feel free to disagree w/ each other but leave the personal comments out of it.</i>
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