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Originally Posted by shyguy1083
random question semi-related to the topic. i see an ad in the new issue of entertainment weekly that shows what looks like re-releases of the first four harry potter films w/ slightly different cover art (basically just borders over the original cover art, and a little "year __" label on the bottom center. are these just repackagings of the old versions or are they supposed to be new with more special features, etc. i'm assuming it's the former, but just wanted to see if anyone knew for sure.
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Originally Posted by joeee
yeah, i read that dvdbeaver review; however, i've seen the dvd with my own eyes and the review is incorrect. the first three HP films are much sharper than the 4th and 5th. and why is the reviewer comparing the dvd to another sub-standard disc?
From dvdtown's review (http://www.dvdtown.com/reviews/harry...phoenix/5392/2 ): Warner Bros. have always lavished their best efforts on the picture and sound quality of the "Potter" series, and for "The Order of the Phoenix" they have outdone themselves. Not only does it look good, it looks as good as anything I've ever seen in a standard-definition, live-action DVD release. The video engineers use a high-bit-rate, anamorphic transfer and obviously some careful attention to detail in getting reproduction so good. The widescreen, 2.40:1 ratio picture (showing up at about 2.27:1 across my screen, given a small degree of overscan) displays superb object delineation and fine, natural colors, bright and crisp and rich, without in any way losing their realism. Set against a perfectly clean screen, free of grain or noise, and with the deepest possible black levels, "The Order of the Phoenix" achieves an order of excellence matched by few other optical discs at this resolution. |
My Target didn't have any of the lenticular covers. They had a lot of the normal 2-disc sets but not the exclusive. Bought the one disc instead, if I am paying extra for a 2nd disc it better have good extra features or artwork/packaging (like the BB Bourne steelbook) which the normal 2disc does not.
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FWIW, the video quality of the HD release is astounding. Thought the audio, while it had great fidelity, seemed really quiet.
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Originally Posted by mh4268
My Target didn't have any of the lenticular covers. They had a lot of the normal 2-disc sets but not the exclusive. Bought the one disc instead, if I am paying extra for a 2nd disc it better have good extra features or artwork/packaging (like the BB Bourne steelbook) which the normal 2disc does not.
From: http://www.dvdtown.com/reviews/harry...phoenix/5392/2 Here, you'll find, first, nine additional scenes totaling about ten minutes, all in anamorphic widescreen. Second, there is a nineteen-minute featurette called "Trailing Tonks," in which we follow Natalia Tena, who plays Tonks, through a typical day on the "Potter" set. Third, there is the major item, a forty-three-minute featurette titled "The Hidden Secrets of Harry Potter," narrated by actor Jason Isaacs. We go behind the obvious in this and previous "Potter" films, as explained by the cast and filmmakers. Then, there is an interactive segment, "Harry Potter: The Magic of Editing." After a five-minute introduction to film editing, you get to edit your own scene. You choose a camera angle, add music and sound effects to it, and watch it. In addition, Warner Bros. provide a bonus digital copy of the film (PC required, Windows Media Player 10 or above), which allows you to copy the movie to your hard drive, providing you have enough room. You'll find the digital copy function in the "Languages" menu. The two discs come in a double keep case, further enclosed in a handsome cardboard slipcover. |
As far as the video quality, I know the Potter films have been using more fog, but for instance, the scene where Tonks changes her hair color to red is difficult to notice. In the theaters I remember it being much brighter. And those full-body shots of the characters are just not sharp. I think the DVDTalk review gets it right; it's an uneven transfer, and that theory about making HD look better might have some weight. I think the Pan's Labyrinth DVD, which has plenty of dark and foggy scenes, is much sharper than OOTP and shows a quality transfer. Who knows? But for the next Potter release, I'm going to rent the DVD before buying it if the video looks the sames as a DVDShrink copy on "smooth."
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i think the HD version of the film was one of the best looking HD DVD's I have seen yet. Outstanding quality, and not to mention maybe the best HP movie yet.
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Originally Posted by joeee
As far as the video quality, I know the Potter films have been using more fog, but for instance, the scene where Tonks changes her hair color to red is difficult to notice. In the theaters I remember it being much brighter. And those full-body shots of the characters are just not sharp. I think the DVDTalk review gets it right; it's an uneven transfer, and that theory about making HD look better might have some weight. I think the Pan's Labyrinth DVD, which has plenty of dark and foggy scenes, is much sharper than OOTP and shows a quality transfer. Who knows? But for the next Potter release, I'm going to rent the DVD before buying it if the video looks the sames as a DVDShrink copy on "smooth."
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/...harry.span.jpg |
Has anybody seen any reviews of the exclusive bonus disc that comes with the five movie box set? Wonder if it's worth trying to see.
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hmm...that image is pretty sharp. is it from the HD release? here's mine from the SD disc.
<img src="http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d176/joedomino/hp.jpg"> note the blurriness. |
Finally got ahold of one target exclusive. They had none at my local target and the clerk confirmed that they went fast, maybe it's because they only order like 6 copies. Although the 2nd target I went too, which is much bigger all around had a ton in stock.
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Originally Posted by shacmasta
Finally got ahold of one target exclusive. They had none at my local target and the clerk confirmed that they went fast, maybe it's because they only order like 6 copies. Although the 2nd target I went too, which is much bigger all around had a ton in stock.
....and now all's good in the world. |
Originally Posted by baracine
The sharpness is fine. You just haven't accepted that the film shows a world almost totally devoid of colour and some of these scenes would have to be upgraded to make it into a decent black and white film, e.g.:
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/...harry.span.jpg UPDATE: Nope, that's promotional. Just checked the article from which it came, A.O. Scott's review of the movie back in July. Doesn't represent any of the home video releases. --THX |
Regardless I'd have to say that it's got the quality in that picture represented in the HD version of the film, probably a little brighter but I can agree that the HD release looks pretty damn good.
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Originally Posted by KillerCannabis
It's getting harder to justify buying these releases since none of the packaging matches anymore and now with talk of future extended cuts, why waste money now? You know that after the last film they're going to put out a mega-uber-deluxe set with all films extended and enough extras to choke an elephant. I'll probably still end up getting the 2-disc for this.
I found year 2 2-disc which was a digipak in a cardboard sleeve.. Are they now re-releasing them in standard cases? Year 4 for sure is in a standard case as I got it with the special lenturnal cover along with year 5.. Later |
Originally Posted by johnsun
Can some refresh my memory of the packaging changes for HP? Most of mine are stored away, specifically year 1 and 3..
I found year 2 2-disc which was a digipak in a cardboard sleeve.. Are they now re-releasing them in standard cases? Year 4 for sure is in a standard case as I got it with the special lenturnal cover along with year 5.. Later Year 2 (Chamber of Secrets) - 2-Disc Digipak Year 3 (Prisoner of Azkaban) - 2-Disc Keepcase Year 4 (Goblet of Fire) - 1 or 2-Disc Keepcase, some 2-Discs have slipcovers (possibly exclusive, Target had Lenticular version) Year 5 (Order of the Phoenix) - 1 or 2-Disc Keepcase |
For Goblet of Fire - ALL 2-Disc Special Editions had slipcovers originally (1st Printing). Target had an exclusive lenticular version.
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Originally Posted by CertifiedTHX
Doesn't represent any of the home video releases.
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I wasn't discussing the sharpness of SD vs. Hi-Def, but the overall colour values of the film which are rather dark.
One of the only sunlit scenes in the film (SD): http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...apture%205.jpg Blu-Ray: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...x/HF7Y8497.jpg From dvdbeaver. |
I cant say how much it bums me out to think that studios are purposly degrading picture for one format just to sell another. It just doesnt make sense as a bulk of their sales are still for SD DVDs.
When I watched my SD version (I use an upconvert player if that matters) it looks pretty decent, but certainly not the best DVD Ive purchased as of late and this is the one I was most excited about. |
I watched the SD DVD on a stardard DVD player this morning. The transfer was pretty bad. I wish this format war would end so I can pick the winner. :)
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Still nobody with any infor on the quality of the bonus disc exclusive to the box set?
A review of the game disc is up in the review section here. Likley because it can be bought seperately. Hopefully someday somebody will do the same for the rest of the box or just the bonus disc. I would do it myself but I'm one of those fools who purshased each one as they came out for me and my family. For now on we should only buy movies and TV sets a couple years after the last one has been released. The last box set will have been released and that same set will be on DD b1g1 sale. LOL |
Originally Posted by shyguy1083
random question semi-related to the topic. i see an ad in the new issue of entertainment weekly that shows what looks like re-releases of the first four harry potter films w/ slightly different cover art (basically just borders over the original cover art, and a little "year __" label on the bottom center. are these just repackagings of the old versions or are they supposed to be new with more special features, etc. i'm assuming it's the former, but just wanted to see if anyone knew for sure.
http://www.amazon.com/Harry-Potter-S...691122&sr=1-12 http://www.amazon.com/Harry-Potter-C...691937&sr=1-15 http://www.amazon.com/Harry-Potter-C...691937&sr=1-15 http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...dL._SS500_.jpg http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...GL._SS500_.jpg http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...NL._SS500_.jpg |
Anyone else watch the Deleted Scenes on this? All of them were basically just extensions of shots (usually begining or ending)! No real deleted "scenes"
I think WB is purposfully giving us crap deleted scenes anymore because an extended edition of the films are going to be coming in the future and they want the scenes in the extended edition to be new and fresh...not something we've already watched! |
I thought I might compare the quality between the 3rd and 5th film, just to see that I'm not crazy or haven't been influenced by the quality HD photos I've seen. The lighting isn't the same, but the difference in sharpness is pretty dramatic.
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d176/joedomino/hp3.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a> <a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d176/joedomino/hp.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a> It's too bad I can't get my money back on HP5. Oh well. Maybe I can sell it used with the Target disc... As for the extras, yeah, they blow. Now I'll have to wait on any WB release to see if it's a piece of garbage like OOTP. |
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