Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Affair
06-08-07, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GuruTwo
Actually, there are no structural changes with the "combined" cut and it even had an intermission when screened theatrically (plus it's too long to fit on one DVD anyway).
There are slight changes throughout but nothing drastic.
There are slight changes throughout but nothing drastic.
06-08-07, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Forrester
Since we're expecting a four-discer, my question is whether or not I should sell off my two old R1 Miramax copies. Since two discs are likely to be "The Whole Bloody Affair", can we expect an LOTR-style two discs worth of extras (that'd be a first for QT) or just a disc for each of the original theatrical releases?
06-08-07, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by scrotalsac187
The set cannot include the theatrical versions because Disney owns the rights for those. This set can only have The Whole Bloody Affair cus the Weinsteins only have the rights to release the recut version. Therefore, the extra two discs have to be extras or something else about the movie, but they cannot have the theatrical versions.
06-08-07, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by scott1598
i don't think this is quite accurate. i think Buena Vista own the international rights, but "A Band Apart" might still own the theatrical with the Weinsteins who took it from Miramax. i don't see why they would have the "new" version and not the originals.
Internationally, Universal distributes Vol. 1 and Vol. 2.
My guess is that the longer movie will still be split to 2 discs with an intermission between, one disc will be filled with extras, and one disc will be a soundtrack CD.
06-08-07, 08:19 PM
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Legally, "Kill Bill, Vol. 1", "Kill Bill, Vol. 2", and "Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Affair" are three different movies, each copyrighted separately. Miramax/Disney hold the American distribution rights to the separate Vol. 1 and Vol. 2, while Weinstein holds the rights to Whole Bloody Affair.
Internationally, Universal distributes Vol. 1 and Vol. 2.
My guess is that the longer movie will still be split to 2 discs with an intermission between, one disc will be filled with extras, and one disc will be a soundtrack CD.
Internationally, Universal distributes Vol. 1 and Vol. 2.
My guess is that the longer movie will still be split to 2 discs with an intermission between, one disc will be filled with extras, and one disc will be a soundtrack CD.
06-08-07, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
Internationally, Universal distributes Vol. 1 and Vol. 2.
Not completely though, Alliance Atlantis distributed the films in Canada (both theatrically and on video) and Buena Vista distributes them in at least some European countries (UK and Germany for example). When you consider all three films, the various distribution rights start to get a bit convoluted.
06-09-07, 12:01 AM
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06-09-07, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Salty
Darth's point was that most movie theater chains won't show NC-17 films, and most TV networks and many newspapers won't run ads for them. The rating severely limits the distribution of the film, regardless of how old you are.
I know this topic has been covered / posted extensively in this forum - but - WHY ???
The NC-17 is a MPAA rating that is equilivant to the Australian R rating (Restricted to 18 and over) and the UK '18 (same as Australia in its restriction).
KILL BILL VOL1 was rated R here in Australia - which restricted its audience - and there was no issue with that in cinemas, the media or video / B&M stores. (KILL BILL VOL2 was rated MA (Mature Audience - under 15 must be accompanied by and parent or adult guardian).
Why is it that cinemas feel that they CAN'T show these films ?? Is it because they think that people wont come and see them ? Or is there still this association of NC-17 with 'sex scenes' ?? I wish someone over there had the 'balls' to get over this resistance - maybe even someone like Tarintino - and say 'this film is for an adults audience only - keep your kids under 18 home !!'
06-09-07, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
Internationally, Universal distributes Vol. 1 and Vol. 2..
I doubt that we'll get the 4 disc set down here.
06-09-07, 12:40 AM
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I 'fail' to understand WHY the rating of NC-17 is see as an 'issue' for your cinema chains and media (TV / papers) ??
06-09-07, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Gerry P.
It's because of the 80+ million religious wackadoos in this country who consider anything beyond an R-rating as porn. They would protest/boycott the newspapers and movie theaters into submission if they dared take part in an NC-17 release.
06-09-07, 11:01 AM
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It would probably be released unrated rather than NC-17, and these days, most stores don't have a problem with unrated (hell, it's a popular selling gimmick).
06-09-07, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by cultshock
Some changes to the structure that I've heard about are the beginning of Vol 2 (Uma driving) being moved to the beginning of the combined film, and the cliffhanger talk between Bill and Sofie at the end of Vol 1 being removed (it apparently was added on when the decision was made to split the film into 2 parts. Makes sense, the scene really wouldn't have been needed if it was one combined film, and it's absence would have made the last chapter a shock to both the audience and the Bride instead of just for her)
I've seen the Blue Leaves sequence in color and I think it's a nice improvement, and I also like the additional little bits with Sofie in the trunk that they cut from Vol. 1 as well. But unless there are substantial changes to the content of Volume 2--and everything I've read has indicated that there is NO difference, other than the removal of the brief driving intro at the beginning, which was little more than a recap anyway--I just don't see this as a worthwhile recut, nor one that will feel different to me by the time the ending credits roll. Was it worth waiting all these years for a 1% different cut and extras we should've gotten the first time?
06-09-07, 05:03 PM
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I just don't see this as a worthwhile recut, nor one that will feel different to me by the time the ending credits roll.
I think the only real difference is that
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06-09-07, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Salty
Darth's point was that most movie theater chains won't show NC-17 films, and most TV networks and many newspapers won't run ads for them. The rating severely limits the distribution of the film, regardless of how old you are.
Mr. Salty indeed.
06-09-07, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
My guess is that the longer movie will still be split to 2 discs with an intermission between, one disc will be filled with extras, and one disc will be a soundtrack CD.
06-09-07, 07:49 PM
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I wish someone over there had the 'balls' to get over this resistance - maybe even someone like Tarintino - and say 'this film is for an adults audience only - keep your kids under 18 home !!'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYu6fpaNrBA
06-09-07, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mrhan
It's about time but after waiting this long I might as well wait for whatever HD format it's going to end up on. Maybe, the Jpn R2 version will be more interesting with extras.
Miramax was owned by the Weinstein brothers (Mira and Max are their parents names). When the Weinsteins left Disney, they retained the rights to Dimension, but not Miramax. Miramax was sold to Disney for 75 million in 1993 and the two brother eventually opted out of their contract and left alltogether in 1995.
Here's the Weinstein's film vault....
http://www.imdb.com/company/co0150452/
From filmfocus.co.uk as quoted by Tarantino....
"Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Affair is definitely getting a wide release," he said, "actually, that'll probably be the first movie that Miramax, under their new company, will be releasing theatrically. It's the Japanese version, that's why I call it that, you know, it should probably come out in the next few months. It's going to be NC-17 in America. We couldn't do that when Disney owned the place but now Disney's the f**k outta there we can do anything we want! It's gonna be off the hook!"
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