Probably the majority of us that are angry about the separate releases ARE the ones who went to see it in the theater (I saw it three times). That's why we want what we paid for and saw in the theater on DVD. A cleaned up DEATH PROOF is NOT what I paid to see in the theater.

The people who didn't go see it probably don't give a crap either way.

I saw Grindhouse in theaters twice, and have a bootleg copy of it as well. I've seen the movie presented in the "grindhouse experience" enough that I'm not disappointed that the movies are being split up. I'm actually interested in seeing a different version of Death Proof.

The Grindhouse experience was created for a theater which projects movies.

The Death Proof DVD (sans fake film scratches) was created for your home viewing pleasure.

Don't confuse the two.

I'm not confused at all, thank you very much. GRINDHOUSE is a film that was projected in the movie theater. Most theatrical movies see a DVD release. It's very simple really.

They got lucky with Clerks first.

I have mixed feelings on separate releases; I enjoyed the Grindhouse concept, but if I was only able to own one of the two films, it would be Death Proof, in its uncut, unmodified glory.

I'll probably catch Grindhouse in the theater once more, and then decide if I even want to buy Planet Terror.

Just to make it clear, I also have no problems at all with them putting out restored separate releases. I just think they should offer the original theatrical cut as well as its own separate release. If they did, I'd buy all three. But if they don't put out the theatrical release, I don't really care about owning the separate releases.

And GRINDHOUSE had only one set of end-credits for both films. It's one big entity. It should live on in DVD just like these restored separate releases. Why not make everyone happy?

And they got lucky with THE CRYING GAME before that. :)

I was hoping for the complete experience on DVD since I swear it was gone at the local theater in no time here unless I wanted to travel a ton of miles to see it which I didn't/couldn't do. :(

Because it's a business. The film did poorly at the boxoffice - separate releases will create many more rentals, pay per view purchases, and DVD purchases. Later, when the separate releases have played out their useful lives as a revenue stream, a compilation set will arrive for "film enthusiasts" to purchase.

I know it's a business, and I sure hope you are right about an eventual release of the original theatrical version. If the separate releases are successful, great, then maybe that will lead to the eventual real-version of GRINDHOUSE on dvd as well. My point is that all the marketing prior has been directed as "GRINDHOUSE" and that's worth a lot more than any DTV blockbuster release with no publicity or prior theatrical release. However, it appears Weinstein is finally releasing that always promised KILL BILL complete extended-cut version on the same day as DEATH PROOF. Now that seems like REALLY good marketing to me. It will help sell DEATH PROOF as a single release for Tarantino fans and garnish tons of money from KILL BILL fans as well. So Weinstein may not be so stupid overall. I hope this alll pans out successfully. Time will tell.

As much as I loved the experience and overall effect of Grindhouse in theaters, I actually think the movies will function better longer and separated on home video. I was in the minority (majority?) that loved Death Proof (it's fascinating as an aspiring screenwriter to see a blend of stoner comedy, car chases, and disturbing thriller executed successfully), and it may have not been liked so much because it was so subdued compared to the complete insanity of Planet Terror. I liked DP more too.

I also can't acknowledge Grindhouse as a full-on bomb. Sure, it underperformed, but everyone who saw it (that I know at least) thought highly of it, and not just my QT disciple friends. And in that case Death Proof will probably be more pallatable with consumers because Planet Terror is exceedingly too violent beyond many people's tastes IMO.

Yeah, I agree with more of the people on this page. Won't see or buy the film on DVD as a whole. If you're watching it at home, even if it's in one piece, that is absolutely NOT the "grindhouse experience" and I hope Quentin and Robert stick to their guns with the individual DVDs.

I'm also looking forward to the DVDs having specific bonus features and stuff, I'd rather not have to switch to another disc to enjoy the bonuses. Plus stuffing it all one one disc would prevent a commentary wouldn't it -- maybe Tarantino will finally do one...

"The Whole Bloody Affair"? I missed that news, where did you hear that?

Well, according to Tarantino, it's still on hold (From a fairly recent interview)

"You know one of the things was, I knew that... you know, the theatrical cut of that is already done and stuff, but one of the things is, I worked so hard on Kill Bill, that I wanted a few years off, and figured the fans weren't gonna go anywhere, make them wait, they are also getting so used to these big mammoth mamoo versions coming out every six months, so I was like I like Volume 1, Volume 2, let that stand for right now, they're not going anywhere, and make them want it even more when it finally shows up. It gives me a break on it, you know..."

Entirely possible that I'm wrong, but Tarantino's words don't necessarily negate a new Kill Bill release. He's talking in past tense. He wanted time off-- a few years-- after completing the theatrical cuts. Basically repeating what he said back in 2005 or so. Perhaps he's ready now.

--THX

As evidenced by the brand new Kill Bill thread, a preorder page for a 4-disc set of the full KB has popped up on Turner Classic Movies' online DVD shop with a 9/17 date. However, more relevant is that if you scroll down on that very page there is an entry for Death Proof which claims that this DVD will not only be the Director's Cut that screened at Cannes (hopefully the original version is included as well), but that the DVD will be a two-disc set. I searched Rodriguez but the store has no listing for Planet Terror.

And before that SEX, LIES, AND VIDEOTAPE

I was going to mention that one, but went with THE CRYING GAME because it had a bigger box office gross. :D

So what about Planet Terror?

yeah! :mad:

I was kind of surprised that even though Planet Terror was shot with HiDef camera, the post production degrading of the picture was perfect!

I have to disagree. In the past few years, consumers have been (rightfully) led to believe that they can more or less expect to see the theatrical experience duplicated a much as possible when a film hits dvd. Digital transfers for standard dvd have basically been perfected to the utmost and anamorphic transfers have long been the standard. So I think that those who consciously skipped this during its theatrical run did so justifiably in terms of expectations for the dvd.

But we're talking about the theatrical experience of seeing this double-feature being surrounded by thugs,hobos,and crack-dealing transvestites. You know, the Grindhouse experience. :)

It just feels like a ripoff. "Grindhouse" was one movie. It was an anthology film, like Four Rooms, or even Pulp Fiction, with separate stories, but it was created and released as a single film.

I have no problem with longer cuts of Death Proof or Planet Terror, but they should be Extra Features on the Grindhouse DVD.

Maybe a single-disc Grindhouse, and a deluxe edition with the extended versions on discs 2 and 3 would be a good way to go.. But pretending that these "films" are separate entities is another cynical way to get the fans to buy two seperate DVD releases and then some time in the future you know they'll "give in" to public demand and release the original Grindhouse.

Anyway, blah blah. Won't buy either. Don't like to feel like a stooge.

and The Thin Blue Line
and Sex, Lies & Videotape
and The English Patient
and Shakespeare in Love
and Good Will Hunting

...but other than that, yes - idiots! ;)