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islandclaws 06-21-07 01:50 PM

Oh man, that's some sexy packaging. Exactly what I'd love to own, which, ironically, means it won't be coming out here. I'm sure we'll get the requisite 2-disc digipak style, maybe embossed or with some :oohhh: raised lettering! I liked the movie, though, so I'll be buying this extended cut. Historically accurate or not, it entertained me and that's good enough for me.

Hal 06-21-07 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by Hal
<a href=http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=528><b>First pic</b></a> of the AWESOME packaging for Troy Director's Cut DVD.



OMG!


Looks very nice. I hope the USA gets similar packaging..
I think this is USA packaging...

CTroutt 06-21-07 07:44 PM

From the Google translation of the review webpage:


Only Orlando Bloom draws still the lot of the film nincompoop.



Google translates to Bloomglish?? The wonders never cease... ;)

thursdaynighter 06-21-07 11:11 PM

I know some people despise this movie but I really enjoy it. Sort of popcorn history, albeit with factual errors. Hopefully the DC makes it even better like Kingdom of Heaven.

Michael Corvin 06-22-07 08:48 AM

Nice packaging. I'll have to wait for a review as I wasn't a fan of the film. I wonder if all the extra footage will be enough to turn it around for me.

DeputyDave 06-22-07 10:54 AM

I never considered Troy (the movie) to be historical. Let's face it, no one really knows if a battle took place and people even argue whether or not the actual city of Troy existed at all. So I never take any "inaccuracies" seriously (I actually get angrier when they screw up a Stephen King adaptation).
Looking at in the context of Sword/fantasy; Troy is an excellent entry. I am very much looking forward to the extended cut.

Oh... awesome packaging!!! :up:

thursdaynighter 06-22-07 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by DeputyDave
Looking at in the context of Sword/fantasy; Troy is an excellent entry. I am very much looking forward to the extended cut.

Oh... awesome packaging!!! :up:

Exactly, good way to look at it. It's great escapism.

Nick Martin 06-22-07 12:13 PM

My comment will undoubtedly piss people off, but considering how much hate there is, good:

I'm glad Horner's replacement score remains intact. :D

PopcornTreeCt 06-22-07 12:59 PM

I really liked Troy. I liked the way they choreographed the fight scenes. The fight scene between Bana and Pitt is pretty awesome.

I remember watching 300 and yawning thinking to myself I saw that fighting style in Troy. Couldn't you at least make up your own?

Michael Corvin 06-22-07 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
I really liked Troy. I liked the way they choreographed the fight scenes. The fight scene between Bana and Pitt is pretty awesome.

I remember watching 300 and yawning thinking to myself I saw that fighting style in Troy. Couldn't you at least make up your own?

And to me sitting there watching Troy I kept thinking to myself, a CG version of Braveheart, how original and lackluster to boot.

danicus007 06-22-07 04:39 PM

Looking forward to this release. I thought Troy was great and would welcome another 30 minutes of sex and violence.

BTW...isn't all of this stuff 'mythology?' I don't really consider that to be historical.

RocShemp 06-28-07 11:25 PM

I see from the German review that the score was completely changed as well. At first I thought that meant that they went with Gabriel Yared's score this time around but the review mentions that the female vocalist is completely absent from the score in this new cut. Both James Horner and Gabriel Yared used Tanja Tzarovska as their vocalist in their respective scores for this film. So if she's absent, this is obviously a third score that has been recorded for Troy. But who wrote the new score?

MTRodaba2468 06-29-07 12:40 AM

I thought Troy was OK. I wouldn't mind checking out the DC. Afterall, I thought the same about Kingdom Of Heaven's theatrical version, and the DC is MUCH better.

Dr. DVD 06-29-07 04:07 PM

Damn! I might be triple dipping on this title. Got the original, then upgraded to HD, now this. However, I will only buy if it is in the HD format and has that packaging.

Nick Martin 06-29-07 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by RocShemp
the review mentions that the female vocalist is completely absent from the score in this new cut. Both James Horner and Gabriel Yared used Tanja Tzarovska as their vocalist in their respective scores for this film. So if she's absent, this is obviously a third score that has been recorded for Troy. But who wrote the new score?

I made my own version of the Horner soundtrack, completely removing all traces of Tzarovska's awful vocals, but they served as bookends for the music anyway.

In an interview (in German) Petersen said they used Horner's score but re-edited it, and included 3 additional 'licensed' pieces of music as well.

RocShemp 06-29-07 04:58 PM

Interesting. I didn't have any problem with Tanja Tzarovska's vocals. I didn't realise they were disliked enough to cut her out of the score entirely.

I assume the "licensed" music are simply pieces of score from other movies (similar to what was done in the score of both cuts of Kingdom of Heaven and other movies). Will the Josh Groban song still be there? And do you have a link to the interview, Nick Martin?

fryinpan1 07-09-07 10:38 AM

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070709/20070709005347.html?.v=1

Source: Warner Home Video


Troy Director's Cut Debuts on a Two-Disc DVD, UCE, HD and Blu-ray from Warner Home Video September 18
Monday July 9, 9:00 am ET


BURBANK, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--On September 18, Warner Home Video will debut Wolfgang Petersen's all-new, unrated version -- not seen in theatres -- of his epic film Troy. With 30 minutes of new footage, Troy Director's Cut, including special features from its first DVD release, will be available in collectible O-sleeve packaging and will sell for $20.97 SRP. HD DVD and Blu-ray disc versions will debut simultaneously at $34.99 SRP.
Also offered will be the Troy Ultimate Collector's Edition ($39.92 SRP), which will include collectible memorabilia such as "The Art of Troy" photo book, behind-the-scenes photos and select pages from the shooting script of the Academy AwardŽ-nominated director (The Perfect Storm, Outbreak, In the Line of Fire, Das Boot). Orders are due for all August 14.

OscarŽ nominee Brad Pitt (Ocean's Thirteen, Twelve Monkeys) brings a dynamic, brooding presence to the role of Greek warrior Achilles in this spectacular retelling of The Iliad. Orlando Bloom (Pirates of the Caribbean) and Diane Kruger (National Treasure) play the legendary lovers who plunge the world into war, Eric Bana (Munich, Lucky You) portrays the prince who dares to confront Achilles and Peter O'Toole (Venus) rules Troy as King Priam. Director Wolfgang Petersen recreates a long-ago world of warship flotillas, clashing armies, a massive fortress city and the towering Trojan Horse.

DVD SPECIAL FEATURES

Disc One

Feature Film
Troy Revisited: An Introduction by Wolfgang Petersen
Disc Two

Troy in Focus
In The Thick of the Battle: Discovering how Troy's epic battle sequences were created, from thousands of warrior-extras training in the scorching heat of Mexico, to fierce one-on-one duels to the death
From Ruins to Reality: Exploring how the ruins of ancient Troy were unearthed and how Troy's production design magicians created their own version of this breathtaking, legendary city
Troy: An Effects Odyssey: Secrets of Troy's stunning visual effects are revealed, from conjuring a staggering 1,000 ship armada on the open seas, to producing the bone crunching sound effects of brutal ancient warfare
Attacking Troy
Greek Ship Towing
Theatrical Trailer
Art can be downloaded at www.whvdirect.com.

thursdaynighter 07-09-07 10:50 AM

Great news for a very good movie! (I know some will disagree)

stingermck 07-09-07 10:52 AM

WHEW. Almost bought the current HD with BB's sale.

Nick Martin 07-09-07 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by RocShemp
Interesting. I didn't have any problem with Tanja Tzarovska's vocals. I didn't realise they were disliked enough to cut her out of the score entirely.

And do you have a link to the interview, Nick Martin?

Well, I didn't like them that's why I made a customized version of the CD soundtrack.


Here is the original German interview scanned from a magazine:

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/1...maerz07no0.jpg

I was told about what it said regarding the music.

Giles 07-09-07 11:31 AM

even though I wasn't all that entralled with it in the theatre, I am getting more and more interested in reseeing this.

wennma01 07-09-07 01:21 PM

i liked this movie alot and am a packaing whore. i'll probably get the Ultimate Collectors Edition

DeputyDave 07-09-07 01:49 PM

Wow, great price on the two-disc, stand alone (does that mean less than $15 in real world dollars?). I'm glad the Ultimate edition doesn't have any extra content on DVD, so I don't have to beat myself up over which version to buy. I'll only end up eventually chucking all that extra carp anyway.

Maxflier 07-09-07 02:14 PM

Really wish they would make a version of the Ultimate Collector's Edition for the HD discs...

Temujen 07-09-07 02:15 PM

A rough translation of main points of the entire article:

Q: Did you already plan the Director's Cut while shooting the movie?

A: The idea came to me while I was cutting the movie. [...] Lenght, violence and nudity were the problems because I had to get a PG-13. I had 'Final Cut' - but if you are the director of a 200M$ movie, you have to make sure that the movie is financially successful. [...] When you have to cut so much, you get very frustrated and angry.

Q: Did you see things during the cutting of the Director's Cut that you didn't realize during the cutting of the theatrical version?

A: Yes, this time we found the right rhythm of the movie - during the cutting of the theatrical version we were under so much pressure that we just cut scenes to get under three hours. It was as if we were on autopilot.

Q: Was every scene changed?

A: There are at least a thousand new cuts - no scene has been left untouched. [...] Silence is very important - I learned that while doing 'Das Boot'. [...]

Q: The music seems to have been changed.

A: It's still the music by James Horner, with the exception of three new short pieces, however it has been completely restructured.

Q: There have been some technical advancements - has anything been updated?

A: The structure, the pacing, the rhythm and the story telling has been changed. It takes it's time and gives the characters more room to breathe. It's an entirely new creation. It has been digitally worked on and it will be screened digitally in cinemas.


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