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Case01 06-19-06 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by wendersfan
"Seven Samurai is presented in its original aspect ratio of 1.33:1. The picture has been slightly window-boxed to ensure that the maximum image is visible on all monitors."

Asshats. :grunt:

Yeah that's a shame I thought they were done with this.

PopcornTreeCt 06-19-06 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by nitin77
cheers,

does look interesting. I personally thought Cinema Paradiso was sentimental claptrap too.

We watched Cinema Paradiso in film class and I was the lone voice crying how sappy it was. Glad to see I'm not alone.

whaaat 06-19-06 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by Randy Miller III
Not sure if this was mentioned earlier, but it looks as if <i>Seven Samuai</i> will be getting a new 4.0 mix---according to the website, it was created from the original optical track recordings, original stereo music masters, and original production sound effects masters. A restored 1.0 mono mix will also be included. :up:

Cool :up:

Originally Posted by wendersfan
"Seven Samurai is presented in its original aspect ratio of 1.33:1. The picture has been slightly window-boxed to ensure that the maximum image is visible on all monitors."

Sucky :grunt:

eta: am I the only one who was hoping for a mch mix on Playtime? I remember Terry Jones' description of the horizontal and vertical panning of sound effects at the 70mm premiere, and I was thinking: "I'd move my speakers around to a stupid configuration if I had a reason to." With the way Tati uses sound to draw the eye to details on screen, I wish it had been included as an extra.

Also, if this is a new transfer for Brazil, I wonder if anyone's told Gilliam that the "by God, it works" line that he references in the commentary is missing from the cut they assembled, and if so, does he care enough to get it re-inserted for this DVD release?

Avid 08-17-06 02:39 PM

Another release of Brazil, another release I won't buy.

Maybe someday Universal will put out the release I want...

canaryfarmer 08-17-06 02:46 PM

Fine, I'll bite - What would that consist of?

Giles 08-17-06 02:47 PM

so what exactly is wrong with a movie properly presented in 1:33:1 windowboxed? - people on this board continually bitch and complain when studios alter films from their original OAR's and here Criterion takes the effort to preserve the full screen by adding a sliver of a black box around the image - and people complain about this as well - ??

Avid 08-17-06 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by canaryfarmer
Fine, I'll bite - What would that consist of?

The version released in the theater.

Giles 08-17-06 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Avid
The version released in the theater.

the US theatrical version - why? when Gilliam pretty much prefers the European version and the revised 'Director's cut'

Richard Malloy 08-17-06 03:53 PM

There is exactly one thing from the original U.S. theaterical cut that I wish Gilliam had retained... Sam's line upon viewing his mother's plastic-wrap cosmetic enhancement, "My god, it works!"

Other than that, pffft.

Avid 08-17-06 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by Giles
the US theatrical version - why? when Gilliam pretty much prefers the European version and the revised 'Director's cut'

Why? I drove three hours to another state to see Brazil when it was released. I love that movie. Made the drive several more times. If I'm going to spend money on a DVD release of Brazil and spend time watching it, I want that version.

Another, why? Several of my friends have seen the US version and the version on DVD and hate the new version. They feel the same way about the US version that I do and think the new version wrecks the film. With reviews like that, from people that I know and have similar tastes as I do, I'll stick to my memories.

After the sound Gold Rush, Apocalypse Now Redux and Star Wars Special Editions director's preference pretty much has soured on me. They can revise their films as much as they want but I want to have the choice to watch the version that I like.

One of the DVD review sites said the Criterion Brazil set was definitive. I disagree; it is not even close. A definitive set would have anamorphic versions of the US release, International release, revised (and currently the only available version) “Director's Cut”, as well as Love Conquers All. I would buy that version, and watch every single cut of the film.

DVD extra junkie that I am, at this point I would buy a good quality anamorphic transfer with no extras of the theatrical cut of Brazil.

... but then I would turn around and buy the new Criterion box set to have the most complete version of extras (that includes the "DC cut") of a movie that I love that I could get.

Until the US theatrical Brazil is released (anamorphic -- and bring on the International version as well if Universal or Criterion wants to) I'm not buying anything.

slop101 08-17-06 04:57 PM

I too would rather have the US theatrical-cut (which I had on VHS and watched countless times throughout the '80s). But I'm not gonna split hairs - at least it's not full-frame like my old VHS was...

Giles 08-17-06 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by Avid

Until the US theatrical Brazil is released (anamorphic -- and bring on the International version as well if Universal or Criterion wants to) I'm not buying anything.


well you're gonna have to wait a very long time - cause I certainly don't see it released anytime soon.

Avid 08-17-06 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by Giles
well you're gonna have to wait a very long time - cause I certainly don't see it released anytime soon.

Neither do I. I had always hoped that when Criterion upgraded Brazill to the much needed anamorphic transfer they would add in the theatricals to the set, or make them available as stand alones.

If the US theatrical version of Brazil ever comes out I will be the first person in line for it. In the meantime I'm looking forward to the 2007 Blade Runner release. :)

ctyankee 08-17-06 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by Avid
After the sound Gold Rush, Apocalypse Now Redux and Star Wars Special Editions director's preference pretty much has soured on me. They can revise their films as much as they want but I want to have the choice to watch the version that I like.

I see your point. People do like to have and enjoy the film that they originally saw, particularly when it made a strong impact on them.

I'm also not a fan of revised versions of films. Particularly in the case when the director had "final cut" approval to begin with. Make the film you want to make and then move on is my preference for things. I do admit that this is not something that I see as a hard and fast rule, merely a preference.


eta: am I the only one who was hoping for a mch mix on Playtime? I remember Terry Jones' description of the horizontal and vertical panning of sound effects at the 70mm premiere, and I was thinking: "I'd move my speakers around to a stupid configuration if I had a reason to." With the way Tati uses sound to draw the eye to details on screen, I wish it had been included as an extra.
This also bothers me (I don't remember if I already commented on that here). I saw the re-released film in NY last year. Amazing audio. When a truck or bus (near the end) rumbles by the first few rows of chairs shook. Sound came from the sides as well but I just don't remember the sound format presented.

Point being that Tati supposedly had several discrete channels that he recorded to and we end up with 2.0. What the heck happened?

slop101 08-21-06 09:51 PM

Beaver's got their SS review/comparison up - looks good... really good!

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCom...vensamurai.htm


http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5...gelargetg8.jpg

LorenzoL 08-30-06 04:54 PM

DVDBeaver has comparison review for Playtime up on their website.

Playtime
http://www.criterion.dvdbeaver.com/f...4/playtime.htm

They have not completed a comparison review for Brazil just yet.

Cosmic Bus 08-30-06 06:23 PM

I'm curious to see how long Criterion continues the 'C' logo-themed disc artwork. It's on several (if not all) of their post-redesign releases that I'm aware of. I'd rather an image or design that's related to the film, myself.

MrStayPuft 09-20-06 06:58 PM

I saw this on the Criterion homepage:


The first shipment of Eric Rohmer's Six Moral Tales included a slipcase that was sized incorrectly. The problem has been fixed—please contact us at [email protected] to receive your properly sized replacement slipcase.

A portion of our first shipment of our remastered three-disc Brazil box set did not include the booklet for disc one. If you're missing your Brazil booklet, please contact us at [email protected], and we will immediately send it to you at no additional cost.
I bought the Brazil 3 disc boxset on release day, and am one of the unfortunate people who is missing that booklet. Anyone else have this problem? I sent them an email yesterday with my address, but havn't received a response yet. Do they normally respond?

alfonsosoriano 09-20-06 07:43 PM

Anyone get Jigoku? I'm thinking about blind buying for $20.

Spiral Staircase 09-20-06 08:09 PM

I emailed them to request a replacement for the Rohmer box. They did not confirm the request or send any kind of response, but the replacement box arrived three days after I sent the email. I was glad to see that they seemed aware of all of the complaints about the Rohmer box and were quick to redress the matter.

MrStayPuft 09-20-06 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by starecase
I emailed them to request a replacement for the Rohmer box. They did not confirm the request or send any kind of response, but the replacement box arrived three days after I sent the email. I was glad to see that they seemed aware of all of the complaints about the Rohmer box and were quick to redress the matter.

Was there any replacement charge? Brazil mentioned "at no additional charge", but not so for the Rohmer replacement box.

Spiral Staircase 09-20-06 09:58 PM

There was no charge for the Rohmer box. It appears it actually cost them $1.83 to send it to me. It was shipped in a large austere cardboard envelope with the new Criterion logo on it. I merely had to fold a couple of flaps to assemble it.

Brooklyn 09-21-06 01:09 AM

What's the difference in the Rohmer box? My slipcase is a tiny bit loose compared to
the invividual digipacks, is that what they're talking about?

Nick Danger 09-21-06 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by wendersfan
"Seven Samurai is presented in its original aspect ratio of 1.33:1. The picture has been slightly window-boxed to ensure that the maximum image is visible on all monitors."

Asshats. :mad:

I don't get understand your objection, either. I prefer windowboxing to the standard practice of losing 5% of the picture at the edges.

Cosmic Bus 09-21-06 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by Brooklyn
What's the difference in the Rohmer box? My slipcase is a tiny bit loose compared to
the invividual digipacks, is that what they're talking about?

Essentially, yes. The Rohmer box was intended to be a double slipcase, like the Cassavetes set, and not the single that was released. The replacement box fits perfectly over the digipaks and book, and then goes inside of the first, larger case (backwards, so you see the spines of the sleeves on both ends and not the indivual DVD cases).


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