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Originally Posted by Jason
Those people have nothing on this forum. Their whine-fest is only 9 pathetic little pages long. They should tremble in awe at this 62 page monstrosity.
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Originally Posted by toddly6666
According to pictures of the menus, why is there an audio/video THX-OPTIMIZER on these non-anamorphic DD 2.0 Star Wars videos? That makes no sense. The purpose of the THX-OPTIMIZER is for anamorphic and DD 5.1 audio. Why would Lucas put that thing on these shitty discs?
According to him, we are supposed to watch them the original way they were, meaning no tampering with the colors, video, and audio and such. In other words, no THX-OPTIMIZER!! |
To add further fuel to the fire, Digital Bits has posted this under their Rumor Mills section:
Also today... a follow-up on something we've been telling you to expect for quite while now. 2007, as you may well be aware, is the 30th anniversary of the original Star Wars' debut in theaters. You'd have to be stupid not to know that Lucasfilm is going to have big DVD release plans with which to celebrate the anniversary, and we've been telling you that was the case for many months now. Indeed, during our last visit to the Ranch for the DVD release of Episode III, producer Rick McCallum confirmed that a box set of all six films was going to happen eventually, and animation director Rob Coleman even let it slip that the puppet Yoda from Episode I had already been replaced with a new CG Yoda to match Episodes II & III for the "future" release. T-Bone over at Star Wars Universe recently speculated about this box set, and we've been quietly checking in with our industry sources on it as well. Well, we've confirmed it: There IS a big, ultimate, 6-film Star Wars anniversary DVD box set planned for 2007. There will be more changes to the films, and there will be LOTS of new, never-before-seen special features - all the good stuff that was held back by Lucasfilm from the original Trilogy DVD release a few years ago. Think deleted scenes and more. We don't know if good, genuinely-REMASTERED versions of the original theatrical editions of the films will be included or not (though how you could call the set "ultimate" without them, we don't know). We don't expect high-definition versions yet, as those formats are just too new. We don't have ANY other details for you yet, so please don't ask. But as you consider whether or not to purchase the "limited edition" DVDs due on 9/12... we thought you should know that more IS absolutely on the way next year. 'Nuff said for now. As always, please keep in mind that titles discussed here are tentative and are subject to change until officially announced by the studios. |
Here We Go Again!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
So, are the first two pics under the "A New Hope" case art supposed to be menus, or screen shots from the movie? You be the judge! :)
However my guess would be transition scenes between menus. |
There IS a big, ultimate, 6-film Star Wars anniversary DVD box set planned for 2007. :hairpull: -ohbfrank- :rolleyes: :thmbsdwn: :grumble: :brickwl2: :whofart: :wacko: :confused: :down: and ultimately: rotfl (especially since the release that this thread is about is meaningless, since they could've just held it off until next year). |
Originally Posted by LorenzoL
To add further fuel to the fire, Digital Bits has posted this under their Rumor Mills section:
...We don't know if good, genuinely-REMASTERED versions of the original theatrical editions of the films will be included or not (though how you could call the set "ultimate" without them, we don't know). |
There IS a big, ultimate, 6-film Star Wars anniversary DVD box set planned for 2007. There will be more changes to the films, and there will be LOTS of new, never-before-seen special features - all the good stuff that was held back by Lucasfilm from the original Trilogy DVD release a few years ago. Think deleted scenes and more. We don't know if good, genuinely-REMASTERED versions of the original theatrical editions of the films will be included or not (though how you could call the set "ultimate" without them, we don't know). But ... will the OT be re-mastered for the big box? If so, then I'm on board. If not, then they'll basically butcher the films more for the "special :rolleyes:" editions, so I'll sticking with whatever you call what I've got now. I don't even know anymore. :lol: |
So do we settle for the non-anamorphic releases this year, or do we wait until the uber-boxset comes out next year and hope that the Non-SE's are included and that they're actually anamorphic, and then if it's not, rush back and buy the non-anamorphic releases? Or do we boycott the non-anamorphic releases no matter what? And then do we extend the boycott to the uber-boxset if it doesn't include remastered Non-SE's? And if we don't buy non-anamorphic releases, will that make George Lucas more or less likely to include remastered Non-SE's in the uber-boxset? Or does it even matter what we do or don't do because he's already decided?
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BUGG: I only meant that a dvd should only have that THX-OPTIMIZER on home theater-oriented DVDs, not on bonus non-anamorphic letterboxed movies with stereo sound...
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Originally Posted by BuckNaked2k
Yes we Do know: we will never, ever see the OTs released in proper, remastered, Anamorphic format.
"1500 years ago, everybody "knew" that the earth was the center of the universe. 500 years ago, everybody "knew" that the earth was flat. And 15 minutes ago, you "knew" that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll "know" tomorrow." Kay, Men in Black. And I'll say again, we "knew" for years that we'd never see the originals on DVD at all. I'm mildly optimistic for the big box set. [quote=Joe Molotov] Or does it even matter what we do or don't do because he's already decided? I don't think it matters if we buy this release. It's the Q4 revenue boost, and a scrap of a bone being thrown to the fans. If the original versions are also in the box, I really think they'll be redone right that time. |
Originally Posted by Joe Molotov
So do we settle for the non-anamorphic releases this year, or do we wait until the uber-boxset comes out next year and hope that the Non-SE's are included and that they're actually anamorphic, and then if it's not, rush back and buy the non-anamorphic releases? Or do we boycott the non-anamorphic releases no matter what? And then do we extend the boycott to the uber-boxset if it doesn't include remastered Non-SE's? And if we don't buy non-anamorphic releases, will that make George Lucas more or less likely to include remastered Non-SE's in the uber-boxset? Or does it even matter what we do or don't do because he's already decided?
*head explodes* Keep in mind that it is only speculation that the mega-boxset next year will include O-OT (anamorphic or not). It basically boils down to how important the O-OT is to you. I have the SE Trilogy on the official Malaysia VCD boxset, and I have the 5-star DVD boots. But I really want the O-OT. Anamorphic or not, I'll be picking up these discs later this year and call it done. At the projected street prices for these, I'll be happy with them. Even if anamorphic versions are included in the mega-boxset next year, I will not buy them... for 2 reasons. First, the boxset will be more expensive. I don't need to have hours and hours of extras, or further altered SE versions. Second, I do not want to "reward" Lucas for stringing us along with a year-end release now and mega-boxset later. The danger in passing on this year's release in anticipation of the boxset is that if the boxset doesn't include the O-OT, then you'll have to scramble to find, or pay a premium for the discs that were released this year. (since it was announced that they would only be available for a short time). |
Originally Posted by sracer
The danger in passing on this year's release in anticipation of the boxset is that if the boxset doesn't include the O-OT, then you'll have to scramble to find, or pay a premium for the discs that were released this year. (since it was announced that they would only be available for a short time).
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Why does everything with George Lucas, when it invovles star wars (which it usually does) have to be a chore for the consumer? I've been debating whether to get the finally to be released original theatrical release of the star wars trilogy on DVD. My motivation is not high, being so turned off by the "saga" of the release.
I can come to terms with the director/creator changes done to the original films. Fine, I get it, OK, you win. But I've just read that the original theatrical release will be widescreen letter box and not enhanced anamorphic. After the endless "technology wasn't available" yadda yadda yaddas we've had to endure from Lucas as the reasoning behind the changes to the originals, now are we to understand that there is some techno reason which makes a decent release of the films not possible?. I think this shows a total lack of respect for his film and for the audience. I was looking forward to include the two first films in my film collection as they both rightfully belong there, however, at this point, i'm going to pass on the releases. This is just too half assed an effort for me to stomach. very very disappointed, yet again, but come to expect this from anything that invovles George Lucas in a directorial role. Shame on you george edit - fixed typo |
To Further the 30th anniv. rumours:
http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/index...._articleid=846 May 25th, 2007, as some of you may well know, will bring about the 30th anniversary of the original release of Star Wars in theaters. You don't really think that the Lucasfilm marketing machine would let such a momentous occasion go without trying to sell you anything and everything possible with a Star Wars logo on it, do you? Of course not. So here are a few rumors about what you might see next year, according to a source that unfortunately wishes to remain anonymous but I trust completely. I'm sure that big Celebration IV will tie into this all as well. I know that anonymous sources tend to lead people to thinking the story is made up but you'll have to just trust me or wait and see. Things can change I'm sure but things are in motion now that should come to fruition next year. If I label something a rumor, it is just that - a rumor. Please take it as such. Moving on... What I'm hearing sounds like it's not going to be a simple "Here is the new set" blitz. It's going to, once again, incorporate the soundtracks, the convention and yes, more tinkering to the DVDs. I'll repeat that - MORE tinkering to the FILMS. Yes, more changes to the Star Wars films. By now, this shouldn't exactly be "news" to anyone. I think fans almost expect that with every release of every Lucasfilm DVD from here on in (and maybe that was the idea), there are probably going to be some kind of changes, be it a transition (dissolve to wipe, perhaps) or a completely new scene. Let’s start with the soundtracks. The complete scores are allegedly going to be released in one big boxed set but my source tells me that the audio quality will not be as good as the current releases for some reason. Now I’m not a stickler with CDs and I don’t go nuts with audio quality. If it sounds good on my iPod, I’m fine with it. If it sounds good on the computer or whatever, great. I can notice big changes but when it comes down to it, I won’t be ticked off if it’s a little off in quality, though I’d expect newer releases to sound better than the previous ones. That said, the only thing my source told me about the soundtracks is that they “…will not sound as good as the current discs. They will sound like every other John Williams 'muffled' release.” I’m not 100% sure what that means, exactly but I’m sure some of you soundtrack lovers and John Williams fanatics out there will know what he’s talking about. The status quo probably won’t take issue but if you already have them, you might not need to buy them again. This time, I’m not falling prey to the soundtrack trap like I did with the 2004 version. They ensnared me into buying the silver boxed set of soundtracks because inside were supposed to be some exclusive screensavers and I thought to myself, “Hey, that’s good enough to make me buy these again, even though I already have them. I’m getting something else I don’t have. Great.” So I took the CDs and installed the screensavers. I tried out the one for EMPIRE and up came the wonderful logo followed by…a bunch of expanded universe artwork that had NOTHING to do with the film. Thinking it was a quirk, I tried the other two screensavers and it was the same thing. Bring up the FILM logo and then show images that have NOTHING to do with the film. Who’s the genius that devised that plan? I sure hope they’re not working there anymore. I almost threw the CDs out the window. So if you have the soundtracks, you might want to think about whether or not you really need this new set of music. Chances are, you have it all, but if you don’t have all of the soundtracks this might be a good set to invest in. We’ll have to see what the details are but this time I’ll be very skeptical of the bonus features, if any. Now, on to the films. From what I understand, George Lucas is going back once again to make even more changes to the Star Wars films. What those changes are and what films in particular they are going to show up in, I don’t know yet. As soon as my rumor mill starts to flow on those, I will let you know. All I know is that my source tells me that it’s going to happen for this new box to be released next year. Frankly, I find it funny that Lucas will spend more money on these films but won’t give the unaltered versions a correct anamorphic transfer. Perhaps he will for this new set. We’ll have to wait until the details start to come out. Something in my gut is telling me the unaltered versions will not show up, but that’s my gut, not a rumor. It could happen. All I know is you should probably start saving up your money now if you plan on buying this thing because it’ll probably be a monster and will probably come in a few different variations. Technically, it could run at around $150 or in that ballpark when you consider it’s 2 discs per film, at least, and then there’s bound to be at least one bonus disc, if not two. Plus they’ll probably throw in some garbage like game demos or little coins or pewter figures or whatever they dream up that they think will make the set more appealing to fans because let’s face it, outside of the normal DVD enthusiasts, the only other people buying this mega-set are going to be fans of the films. Most other people already have them or will be buying them individually this year. See, I have to say this stuff because the last time I posted some rumors about the digital arm of ILM possibly moving to India or somewhere out of California, some Lucasfilm employees got all pissy with me and decided to trash me publicly without even contacting me first to ask about the article. There was talk about how the fan sites need to keep themselves in check and sometimes need to be taken down a notch, etc. That sort of negativity isn't going to do anyone any good. I’ve been posting rumors for 10 years now so this should be nothing new to them. In fact, this source tells me that the main reason they haven’t moved ILM yet is because of the work they’re doing for the Anniversary set. I never said they were moving tomorrow so we’ll see if this all pans out one day. If not, no big deal, right? I get the rumors, I report them – that’s it. If they’re wrong, I’m the one that has to worry about it and believe me, I don’t. So anyhow – get your wallets ready folks. It looks like 2007 is going to be full of surprises! As soon as I hear more on these rumors, confirming or denying, I will let you know. Until then, take them as you will. |
Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
It's time I raped George Lucas back.
I'm so glad I'm a trekker and not a starwars fanboy. At least i have access to the films I want to see. I will always give Star Wars (yes, thats its title) and The Empire Strikes Back all the credit they deserve. But I think I can live without ever seeing them again. I can play the wait game, which i'll apparently have to do for a long long time...... |
Originally Posted by FaustBos
I'm so glad I'm a trekker and not a starwars fanboy.... And as the years have gone by, I've pretty much come to expect half assed Star Wars DVDs. The Prequel 2-discers were decent, yes, but they're still not the Original Trilogy :) As for the big rumor thing posted just above, it seems vague enough that it could come true, though he could just be speculating on previous rumors and previous behavior. I certainly won't be surprised if we do see something like that though. And I've said it over and over, I wouldn't mind the constant revisions to the original trilogy so much if he'd only keep a nice basic, 16x9 set of the originals in print along with them. |
Anyone read this book yet? Seems perfect for all us posters in this thread:
http://www.starwarsontrial.com/images/SWOT_cover.gif |
Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
Anyone read this book yet? Seems perfect for all us posters in this thread:
http://www.starwarsontrial.com/images/SWOT_cover.gif |
Originally Posted by FaustBos
I'm so glad I'm a trekker and not a starwars fanboy.
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Originally Posted by FaustBos
I'm so glad I'm a trekker and not a starwars fanboy. At least i have access to the films I want to see. I will always give Star Wars (yes, thats its title) and The Empire Strikes Back all the credit they deserve. But I think I can live without ever seeing them again. I can play the wait game, which i'll apparently have to do for a long long time......
PS. Luca$ is a tool, but a very rich tool. :) |
For what it’s worth, I’m pretty much done with Lucasfilm in regards to Star Wars DVD releases. No more re-re-releases for me. No more changes. No more purchases. I don’t care what new bonus features or scenes are made available. I’m not buying.
The sole exception will be if Lucas releases a decent anamorphic transfer of the Original Classic Trilogy. Until then, I’m quite content with what I have. |
Just got done reading it! Found it fairly entertaining! I agreed with the prosecution regarding 30% of it (re: the "religious" and moral aspects of SW) and with the defense on the rest of it (re: SW is "science fiction", has not "ruined" science fiction for everyone else, etc...) See, I have to say this stuff because the last time I posted some rumors about the digital arm of ILM possibly moving to India or somewhere out of California, some Lucasfilm employees got all pissy with me and decided to trash me publicly without even contacting me first to ask about the article. There was talk about how the fan sites need to keep themselves in check and sometimes need to be taken down a notch, etc. That sort of negativity isn't going to do anyone any good. I’ve been posting rumors for 10 years now so this should be nothing new to them. In fact, this source tells me that the main reason they haven’t moved ILM yet is because of the work they’re doing for the Anniversary set. I never said they were moving tomorrow so we’ll see if this all pans out one day. If not, no big deal, right? I get the rumors, I report them – that’s it. If they’re wrong, I’m the one that has to worry about it and believe me, I don’t. |
Originally Posted by Terrell
I can't believe David Brin is still on that "Star Wars ruined real sci-fi" kick. Star Wars has never been real sci-fi(Lucas has never held it out as such) and even if it were, it hasn't ruined real sci-fi. Sorry Star Wars is more popular than anything you've ever created Brin, but those are the breaks. My suggestion is you get over it and move on. Besides, I've read two of your books, or should I say tried, and your works have arguably done more damage to good sci-fi than Star Wars.
Read it before you speak. It was somewhat on your side. Well, it was spoken in both sides... |
Originally Posted by Terrell
I can't believe David Brin is still on that "Star Wars ruined real sci-fi" kick.
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