Warner Film Noir Box 3
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03-24-06, 06:20 PM
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Loved the first box as a blind buy, haven't picked up volume 2 yet, I'm sure I'll get around to it and now vol. 3 as well, but this one doesn't seem to interest me as much overall. I trust Warner though, I'm sure it'll be worth it.
03-24-06, 07:01 PM
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Just a bit of info on the following three, in case anyone finds it helpful. (I've not seen the other two, but these three would make the set worth getting even if the other two were crap.)
Border Incident -- Possibly the best-known of all of Anthony Mann's films noir. This is the film that caught James Stewart's eye and helped convince him to work with Mann on "Winchester '73." If you've seen any of Mann's films noir, you'll have a pretty good sense of what goes on in this one, since most of them followed the same pattern. Here, Ricardo Montalban goes undercover to penetrate an illegal immigrant-smuggling ring. It features John Alton's brilliant cinematography (Alton helped solidify noir's visual style) and particularly nasty murder.
Lady in the Lake -- One of Robert Montgomery's directorial efforts, based on the Raymond Chandler novel. Notable primarily as (arguably) the most successful film to show all the action from the main character's point of view -- literally! Every shot is as if you're looking through the eyes of Philip Marlowe (played/voiced by Montgomery himself). I never think that these gimmicks ever completely work, but Montgomery comes closer than anyone else ever has.
On Dangerous Ground -- A personal favorite of mine. A film noir with two very distinctive halves: the first set in a prototypically seedy urban setting where Robert Ryan is cracking up due to pressure; the second is set in a small mountain community where Ryan is sent to help the local authorities. Ryan is brilliant, as is Ida Lupino, who supposedly directed certain scenes while Nicholas Ray was ill. It also features a stand-out score by Bernard Herrmann. Highly recommended!
Lady in the Lake -- One of Robert Montgomery's directorial efforts, based on the Raymond Chandler novel. Notable primarily as (arguably) the most successful film to show all the action from the main character's point of view -- literally! Every shot is as if you're looking through the eyes of Philip Marlowe (played/voiced by Montgomery himself). I never think that these gimmicks ever completely work, but Montgomery comes closer than anyone else ever has.
On Dangerous Ground -- A personal favorite of mine. A film noir with two very distinctive halves: the first set in a prototypically seedy urban setting where Robert Ryan is cracking up due to pressure; the second is set in a small mountain community where Ryan is sent to help the local authorities. Ryan is brilliant, as is Ida Lupino, who supposedly directed certain scenes while Nicholas Ray was ill. It also features a stand-out score by Bernard Herrmann. Highly recommended!
03-25-06, 08:35 AM
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I've never seen any of these movies, but seeing as how Border Incident is an Anthony Mann noir - and I love his noirs, and seeing as how the set also includes Lady in the Lake (which I've been wanting to see) I'm sold on this set.
Even though the 2nd Warners Film Noir box set wasn't as good as the first set (kind of hard to beat the titles in the first set), it was still VERY good, so I trust that they'll do another fantastic job with this set.
This is going to be a very good year for classic films from Warners.
Even though the 2nd Warners Film Noir box set wasn't as good as the first set (kind of hard to beat the titles in the first set), it was still VERY good, so I trust that they'll do another fantastic job with this set.
This is going to be a very good year for classic films from Warners.
04-08-06, 01:19 AM
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06.18.06 for this set....
along with that tough guys news came...
The Film Noir Classics Collection: Volume 3 All new to DVD and all digitally remastered: "Border Incident," "His Kind of Woman," "Lady in the Lake," "On Dangerous Ground" and "The Racket." Available exclusively with the set will be a bonus documentary, "Film Noir: Bringing Darkness to Light"-- a vital companion piece that contains an elucidating overview, complete with clips and expert commentary - and "Vintage Shorts": "Women in Hiding," "You, the People," "Forbidden Passage" and "A Gun in his Hand." The six-disc collection will be sold as a set only for $49.92. (Warner).
Border Incident (1949) Dir.: Anthony Mann; Ricardo Montalban, George Murphy, Howard Da Silva, James Mitchell. Extras: Commentary by film historian Dana Polan, trailer.
His Kind of Woman (1951) Robert Mitchum, Jane Russell, Vincent Price, Tim Holt, Charles McGraw, Marjorie Reynolds, Raymond Burr, Jim Back. Extras: Commentary by film historian Vivian Sobchack.
Lady in the Lake (1947) Dir.: Robert Montgomery; Robert Montgomery, Audrey Totter, Lloyd Nolan, Tom Tully, Leon Ames, Jayne Meadows. Extras: Commentary by film historians Alain Silver and James Ursini , trailer.
On Dangerous Ground (1952) Dir.: Nicholas Ray; Ida Lupino, Robert Ryan, Ward Bond, Charles Kemper, Ed Begley. Extras: Commentary by film historian Glenn Erickson, trailer.
The Racket (1951) Robert Mitchum, Lizabeth Scott, Robert Ryan, William Talman. Ray Collins Extras: Commentary by film historian Eddie Mueller, trailer.
along with that tough guys news came...
The Film Noir Classics Collection: Volume 3 All new to DVD and all digitally remastered: "Border Incident," "His Kind of Woman," "Lady in the Lake," "On Dangerous Ground" and "The Racket." Available exclusively with the set will be a bonus documentary, "Film Noir: Bringing Darkness to Light"-- a vital companion piece that contains an elucidating overview, complete with clips and expert commentary - and "Vintage Shorts": "Women in Hiding," "You, the People," "Forbidden Passage" and "A Gun in his Hand." The six-disc collection will be sold as a set only for $49.92. (Warner).
Border Incident (1949) Dir.: Anthony Mann; Ricardo Montalban, George Murphy, Howard Da Silva, James Mitchell. Extras: Commentary by film historian Dana Polan, trailer.
His Kind of Woman (1951) Robert Mitchum, Jane Russell, Vincent Price, Tim Holt, Charles McGraw, Marjorie Reynolds, Raymond Burr, Jim Back. Extras: Commentary by film historian Vivian Sobchack.
Lady in the Lake (1947) Dir.: Robert Montgomery; Robert Montgomery, Audrey Totter, Lloyd Nolan, Tom Tully, Leon Ames, Jayne Meadows. Extras: Commentary by film historians Alain Silver and James Ursini , trailer.
On Dangerous Ground (1952) Dir.: Nicholas Ray; Ida Lupino, Robert Ryan, Ward Bond, Charles Kemper, Ed Begley. Extras: Commentary by film historian Glenn Erickson, trailer.
The Racket (1951) Robert Mitchum, Lizabeth Scott, Robert Ryan, William Talman. Ray Collins Extras: Commentary by film historian Eddie Mueller, trailer.
04-08-06, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by illennium
Hmm, this might be the first of the Warner noir sets I pass up... There just don't seem to be any standout titles in this one.
04-08-06, 09:03 PM
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The cast lists in these films are excellent. Although someone might want to tell Warners' publicity writer that one of stars of HIS KIND OF WOMAN is really Jim Backus (of Magoo and Howell fame) not Jim Back 
Perry Mason fans will rejoice at seeing Raymond Burr, William Talman, and Ray Collins in various titles in this set.
With a very low street price of around $35 it will be impossible not to pick this up.
Perry Mason fans will rejoice at seeing Raymond Burr, William Talman, and Ray Collins in various titles in this set.
With a very low street price of around $35 it will be impossible not to pick this up.
04-08-06, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ambassador
Are you kidding? Both Border Incident and On Dangerous Ground are "standout titles" by two directors who are central to 1940s Hollywood noir (Anthony Mann and Nicholas Ray). In my opinion at any rate, they make volume 3 clearly superior to volume 2, which had only one "standout title" (The Narrow Margin).
I agree that Volume 2 was not essential except for the inclusion of The Narrow Margin. That fact slipped my mind when I posted and I agree now that it may well be that this third set will eclipse the second. I am not actually a fan of Nicholas Ray but I do seek out his films because of their importance to the Nouvelle Vague directors, Godard being my favorite director by a wide margin. I force myself to watch Ray films and try to see what Godard saw, although without his vision and brilliance I always fall short.
04-08-06, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by illennium
I am not actually a fan of Nicholas Ray but I do seek out his films because of their importance to the Nouvelle Vague directors, Godard being my favorite director by a wide margin. I force myself to watch Ray films and try to see what Godard saw, although without his vision and brilliance I always fall short.
04-10-06, 03:03 PM
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I am a bit of a minority on this but I have seen both On Dangerous Ground and Border Incident and I personally found them pretty marginal. I am a Ray fan, particularly In a Lonely Place. They Live By Night for some reason still is not out there but apparently a commentary has been recorded so that is some exciting news in itself. It is not that far behind In a Lonely Place. The Lusty Men and Johnny Guitar also are tremendous and I would put them right near In a Lonely Place. I suppose Rebel Without a Cause doesn't need my input but my admiration is not near for it the same as In a Lonely Place and The Lusty Men.
04-10-06, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cfloyd3
I am a bit of a minority on this but I have seen both On Dangerous Ground and Border Incident and I personally found them pretty marginal. I am a Ray fan, particularly In a Lonely Place. They Live By Night for some reason still is not out there but apparently a commentary has been recorded so that is some exciting news in itself. It is not that far behind In a Lonely Place. The Lusty Men and Johnny Guitar also are tremendous and I would put them right near In a Lonely Place. I suppose Rebel Without a Cause doesn't need my input but my admiration is not near for it the same as In a Lonely Place and The Lusty Men.
04-14-06, 02:42 AM
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Lux Broadcast
Will "Lady in the Lake" DVD have the Lux Radio Theatre Broadcast from
2-9-1948 with Robert Montgomery as a bonus feature?
WB messed up and didn't include the Lux Radio Theatre episode of
"Murder My Sweet" from 6-11-1945 with Dick Powell and Claire Trevor
on that DVD.
WB has been putting radio shows on many DVDs. Seems a little strange
that they would not have them for the Philip Marlowe movies, especially when those episodes are very available.
I alread have those two shows on CD but I just think they should be included
on the DVD, so people can have a chance to listen to some Old-Time
Radio shows.
As a side note.
Van Helfin played Marlowe on a NBC radio series in the summer of 1947.
The show was revive on CBS with Gerald Mohr as Marlowe. 1948-1951.
The later series was far better.
2-9-1948 with Robert Montgomery as a bonus feature?
WB messed up and didn't include the Lux Radio Theatre episode of
"Murder My Sweet" from 6-11-1945 with Dick Powell and Claire Trevor
on that DVD.
WB has been putting radio shows on many DVDs. Seems a little strange
that they would not have them for the Philip Marlowe movies, especially when those episodes are very available.
I alread have those two shows on CD but I just think they should be included
on the DVD, so people can have a chance to listen to some Old-Time
Radio shows.
As a side note.
Van Helfin played Marlowe on a NBC radio series in the summer of 1947.
The show was revive on CBS with Gerald Mohr as Marlowe. 1948-1951.
The later series was far better.
