Actually, it was the other way around. WWE sent a cease and desist letter to Pioneer for using a copyrighted picture of the Dudleys in the DVD cover. The graphic artist for the ECW DVDs mistakenly used the photo which had the Dudleys in the camouflage attire and after WWE demands, they change the cover to the Tie Dye version.

Interesting, never knew that. No wonder the WWE attire one goes for over $150.

Some seller on ebay had the 2 versions for $40 each brand new 5-6 months ago, should have bought it then. Never knew its worth over $100 now, compared to other pioneer releases. Highspots.com has a brand new Path of Destruction DVD for $24.95 which is a good deal in my opinion.

I am still looking for the Best of Dudley Boyz DVD to complete my ECW Pioneer collection. Can't seem to find it at a decent price now.

I really wish I knew the WWE attire was the rare one.......http://cgi.ebay.com/ECW-PRE-WWE-DVD-...QQcmdZViewItem

All I can say is wow. That would have been a great lot for an ECW fan and at a miraculous price.

Yeah and I figured I had them all except for the Dudleyz cover so why bother and the Heatwave DVD I believe goes for a lot as well.....I am kicking myself because I was going to bid so I could have to trade them.....OH WELL :(

Tell that to all the people who trade it that the WWE has nailed.

I wish I would have kept my complete set of Pioneer ECW dvds I had years ago. :grunt:

Heres the listing for ECW Heatwave 98

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?..._promot_widget

its a brand new one, and still has about 2 days remaining

There is a new version of DVD Profiler out, so I've updated my collection.

http://www.invelos.com/dvdcollection.aspx/thomamon

I'm gonna resort today and take some photos to display here later. Also, if you notice any WWE DVD's missing, please let me know!

Is the DVD Profiler a free service?

I hope the 3 disc Ladder match DVD includes the Rock/HHH Ladder match from Summerslam 98 because it was a great match.

I do too as I don't believe it has ever been released on dvd. It was listed on the "Rock's Greatest Matches" dvd set that has now been taken off the schedule. It was the match where he really went to another level popularity wise.

There is a free version and a version you can register.

I'm confused as to what people consider a bootleg so maybe we can get a clarification.
Also who says their are not 2,700 wrestling DVDs available from the WWE, TNA, ECW, New Japan, All Japan, Noah, FMW, Big Japan, FIP, Pro Wrestling Iron, ROH, Dangerous Women of Wrestling, WEW, Turnbuckle Memories, 3PW, etc..., etc..., etc... My list includes titles from all of these companies, & more, whether they are commercial releases, TV shows, or PPV's.

If I record Raw or Smackdown off of cable, which I pay for, onto a DVD is that a bootleg? If I record a PPV, which I pay for, onto a DVD is that a bootleg? If I copy my Coliseum Home Videos and Turner Home videos, that I purchased when they were originally released, to DVD for my collection is that a bootleg?

I started buying commercial releases, at prices from $29.95-$59.95 a tape, in the early 80's and have been buying them ever since, for my collection.
I have been taping wrestling TV shows, MSG shows, and PPV's since the 80's & still do it today, for my collection.
Now with WWE 24/7 I tape all the shows that I don't already have, from when they aired originally, for my collection.

So what constitutes a bootleg & why should I not be proud of a collection that I have built over the last 25 years? A collection I built by staying up to 1 or 2 in the morning because back then VCRs didn't have timer recording. A collection I built by begging for a ride to Crazy Eddie every day for a week, every couple of months, to see if they had the newest Coliseum Home Video in for $59.95. I could keep going but I think you can see my point.

As far as I am concerned none of you have a right to judge me at all but especially without knowing what I have done to build my collection.

Bob

On the first release of the ECW Best of the Dudley Boys, on the back, their is a picture of Jeff Hardy and D-Von that I always wondered about. I never knew about the cease & desist letter and the multiple covers.

Four Horsemen Easter Eggs:
DISC ONE EASTER EGGS:

Ric Flair Promo from 1987. - Under 'Ric Flair, Wildest Night In The Business', left click twice.

Four Horsemen Promo from 1986 - Under the Extras menu, left click twice the chapter 'Four Horsemen Interviews' to get the bonus promo.

Commentary from Dusty Rhodes about Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard leaving the Four Horsemen. - Under 'Arn & Tully Leave' chapter, left click twice.

Commentary from Ric Flair about Eric Bischoff and how he reacted to Sting defeating Flair. - Under 'Four Horsemen 1996' chapter, left click twice.

DISC TWO EASTER EGGS:

JJ Dillion interview - Under the Extras menu, left click twice the chapter 'JJ Dillion's Ring' to get the bonus interview.

Bob

They are unauthorized copies, so yes, they are bootlegs.

It's not judging, just a fact. Especially when you mentioned what you tape off of WWE 24/7. The work you've put in to get these copies might be considerable, but no matter what you've done to attain them, they are still not authorized copies.

So every person who records a TV show or movie to VHS, DVD, or Tivo (whose main purpose is for taping TV shows and Movies) is a bootlegger? I see tons of posts about people taping their favorite shows for watching later or for their collection and noone ever makes a post like "abrg923" did concerning my collection:

"I see no reason to brag about your high amount of illegal DVDs, especially on this board, which strongly discourages bootlegging of copyrighted material. I'd suggest you not bring these things up anymore."

First of all how would "abrg923" have any idea what is in my collection to even say they are illegal or criticize me?
Second if that is the case then every thread where someone talks about recording a TV show or movie off of TV should be closed, according to abrg923's thinking.

Their is no doubt that selling or trading copies of copyrighted material is illegal and considered bootlegging (I don't even know if that is the right term but since we all keep using it I will also) but in my opinion my recording a TV show for my collection does not fit that description. Now if I turn around and make a copy to sell or trade then yes it does fit that description and should not be talked about on these boards.

Just my opinion,
Bob

I mean in a way I have to agree screw payin for a ppv and not makin a copy of it, Even tho Im debating on buying the Dvd a year or 2 later for my collection no question I tape all ppvs and anything on wwe 24/7 I enjoy

ok, but for example if theres an episode of raw im expecting very much and i record it to watch it over and over. is that illegal? it would be stupid if it is. i mean theres is no master...and i would buy it if i could. im not doing any business with it or trading them.

Making individual copies of complete television shows (time shifting) is legal under fair use, so says the U.S. Supreme Court in 1984, Sony v. Universal.

As long as you don't try to sell or distribute these copies, you are doing nothing wrong.

Forgive me for accusing. It was you, after all, that brought up Crazymax.org - a well-known wrestling bootlegging website - as a "great place to discuss wrestling".

I would be shocked if people go there to talk about wrestling and don't participate in trading and selling/buying of tapes.

hey, I thought this was a forum about upcoming/recent WWE DVD releases, not the legalities/illegalities of DVD burning…

shouldn’t we all be focussing on the Ric Flair & The Four Horseman DVD being officially released tomorrow and the possibilities of ‘store-exclusives’ and the likes?...

True, im expecting a 3 bonus release for the Flair and 4 Horseman dvd thats why im going to wait. also i wonder if theres going to be a Blockbuster edition for WrestleMania 23.

please everybody post when you have news about an exclusive release.