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Nesbit 10-19-05 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by Admiral7
Mrs. Nesbit, the Star Wars portion of the thread had to do with what order in which to watch the films. Are you serious about your list??? Episode IV and then I and II, back to 5, then III and then VI. That's just perverse. LOL!!!

Actually it's how I'm going to show it to my kid for the first time.
Episode IV - Introduction to the series and the OT characters
Episode I + II - Get to meet Luke's parents and see the beginnings of the clone wars that Obi Wan talks about in A New Hope.
Episode V - Ends with the revelation on who Vader is
Episode III - Find out how that happened
Episode VI - Wrap it all up

BTW I was originally joking about placing this in the thread so no threadcrap intended. Now I'm just explaining myself.

cerial442 10-20-05 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by Fincher Fan
Batman Begins because it leads straight into the Keaton/Nicholson sequel.

Batman Begins isn't a prequel to the Burton films. They restarted the franchise. Batman Begins is the first in a new series.

Egon's Ghost 10-20-05 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by cerial442
Batman Begins isn't a prequel to the Burton films. They restarted the franchise. Batman Begins is the first in a new series.

Is there really truth to this? I've read they did that to lead into and pay homage to the Burton film.

Doughboy 10-20-05 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by Egon's Ghost
Is there really truth to this? I've read they did that to lead into and pay homage to the Burton film.

Considering Joe Chill kills Bruce Wayne's parents in Batman Begins and Jack Napier is responsible in Tim Burton's Batman, I'd say it's a safe bet the two films are in their own separate universes.

cerial442 10-20-05 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by Egon's Ghost
Is there really truth to this? I've read they did that to lead into and pay homage to the Burton film.

Yes there is. The next Batman movie will have the Joker in it. That is also why Batman Begins wasn't in the set with the other Batman movies.

coli 10-20-05 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by Cameron
No way. I watched the batman reruns in the 80's and loved it. As an adult I enjoy it on an entirely diffrent level. Greatest batmobile ever




Though the TV series is cheesy when you get older, you can still watch the one's with Batgirl in them. :eyebrow:

Mondo Kane 10-20-05 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by coli


Though the TV series is cheesy when you get older, you can still watch the one's with Batgirl in them. :eyebrow:

Julie Newmar for me!

-other-

riley_dude 10-20-05 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by Mrs.Nesbit
Actually it's how I'm going to show it to my kid for the first time.
Episode IV - Introduction to the series and the OT characters
Episode I + II - Get to meet Luke's parents and see the beginnings of the clone wars that Obi Wan talks about in A New Hope.
Episode V - Ends with the revelation on who Vader is
Episode III - Find out how that happened
Episode VI - Wrap it all up

BTW I was originally joking about placing this in the thread so no threadcrap intended. Now I'm just explaining myself.

No offense but that is the weirdest order ever.

Cameron 10-20-05 07:08 PM

Mssss... Kitka

flyboy 10-22-05 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by cerial442
Batman Begins isn't a prequel to the Burton films. They restarted the franchise. Batman Begins is the first in a new series.


Then its off to a lousy start......

Fincher Fan 10-22-05 11:29 AM

I say wait for the team-up movie to end them all. Batman, Fantastic Four and Spider-Man! Does it get any better?! Of course, due to the huge budget of the special effects alone, they've had to watch every cent in every other department. I don't think you can tell, but here's a promo still.

http://www.damianobrigo.it/batf4web.jpg

LivingINClip 10-24-05 01:19 AM


Then its off to a lousy start......
I'll bite.
You're in the minority. Anyone who knows the comics and characters, would argue that Begins is a lot more faithful of an adapation.

Joe666Pack 10-24-05 09:05 AM

Convincing a Crow lover to stop cutting their arms and dying their hair black is easier than trying to get a Tim Burton zombie to admit how superior Batman Begins is in every way.

And how anyone can see Begins and NOT know it is a whole new entity ... well I guess that is why they make helmets and short buses.

Admiral7 10-24-05 01:48 PM

I am a big Tim Burton fan and loved what he did with the Batman franchise, despite the very thin story in both of his films. Having said that, as much as I enjoy his films, I both acknowledge that the two Burton "Batman" films were think on story and also agree that "Batman Begins" is a far superior film.

However, I'm not that crazy about how Christian Bale looks in the suit, particularly the mask. It just looks OFF to me.

Filmmaker 10-24-05 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Admiral7
However, I'm not that crazy about how Christian Bale looks in the suit, particularly the mask. It just looks OFF to me.


That I agree with; it's like the part of his face exposed in the cowl is too puffy.

Rocketdog2000 10-24-05 11:39 PM


Originally Posted by Filmmaker
That I agree with; it's like the part of his face exposed in the cowl is too puffy.

It's beacuse of the way they made the cowl this time out. It's more form fitting, and tapers at the top, which is why his face looks puffier on the bottom.

There's a whole special feature on the Batman Begins SE disc 2, where they go into detail about the how's and why's the cowl looks different this time out - but I don't feel like typing it all up right now.

Admiral7 10-25-05 02:34 PM

That's it! It's the wide bottom and tapered top that I don't like about the cowl.


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