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Old 10-16-05, 03:35 AM
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I actually liked what he had to say. I got a kick out of it. I also think he's pretty accurately describing some collectors. I'm proud of my movie collection, enjoy it often and hope to expand it as long as I can, but I know there are those out there that probably fit the archetype he's describing.. and not just with DVDs, either.

I think the best reaction here is "kinda funny, but who cares?".. his last paragraph made the whole thing a little too dumb to get hung up on.
Old 10-16-05, 03:52 AM
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I feel just as much of a loser as the guy that buys season tickets for some baseball team that has not won in more than 80 years. Or perhaps I should use the alreay well-worn out cliche..."should I buy drugs then...how's that for a hobby".
And I highly doubt it the films I like will be freely available any time soon.

And what is "actual entertainment" supposed to be...striptease???

With other words...find another topic to write about...MOVE ON!!

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Old 10-16-05, 08:08 AM
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At any rate, the piece says more about Joel Stein than than anything he has to say about any DVD collector. As the old saying goes, "Better to remain silent and thought a fool, than to speak and remove any doubt."


Plus, people didn't give those kooks in Paris guff when they started collecting all them art painting things.

To me, as I've stated before, movies and cinema are a form of art. Owning these pieces is like owning Monet's French Independence Day or a first release of Dickens' Great Expectations.

Oh, I also find it interesting that he mentions that all movies will be available for online download soon. My rebuttle to that is: We have been able to download art prints and books on text for years, yet still prints with amazing frames and books with revamped covers are still widely sold and released. There will still be those who purchase and collect for ownership's sake.

All in all, the article was pretty entertaining though. It does get DVD-aholics stirred up the same way all collector's get stirred up over their items: They have taken ownership to the hobby, and when anyone teases EVEN in jest they still take it a little personally (such as those cats that collect Star Wars memorabilia - it comes with the territory). Some more than others, of course. I personally chuckled at the article. Others are probably ready to beat his door down.

To each his own.
Old 10-16-05, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Mrs.Nesbit
I like Joel Stein. I was sorry when he lost his job writing columns for the final page of EW every week.
I couldn't disagree more.
Old 10-16-05, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by fumanstan
Yup, that's what i got from it as well. It's funny to me how defensive some people are getting
Well .. you knew an article like that would go over well in a forum such as this
Old 10-16-05, 09:34 AM
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Obviously, nearly everyone in this thread took offense to this writers attack against DVD collectors, and people took any angle they could to mock his writing style, or commentary.


While he was deliberately cruel, cynical, and bitter in his delivery (thats his own personal issue not ours), the truth is - I feel like hes got a pretty good point. His point is exadderated (sp?) for effect, but when you think about it:

spending thousands and thousands of dollars to fill up a big wall or shelf full of DVD movies, is really questionable behavior and hints at a person desperately trying to overcompensate or camoflage some void or social or material inadequacy in their life.

I collect DVDs because im a sucker for it, just like you. Thats the truth. Does it make a sad pathetic loser? Am i a really sad pathetic loser if i have a really big collection? What happens if i wake up one day and look at all those dvds and realize, sheesh - i havent really watched these that much, or certainly not enough to justify the bill? Are we going to feel totally and completely stupid in 5-10 years when you can instantaneously download or play on demand a HDDVD movie broadcast. Do you ever look at your collection and wonder in complete horror, holyshit how much cash did i blow on that?

Its hard to admit to yourself, even maybe subconsciously, that you got SUCKERED for a mainstream product. Sure its fun. Sure its fun to have it, and see it on your wall. But its not fun to think that some studio bigwig is smiling all the way to the bank because there are so many suckers like you and I, that they RAPED for years on end on a product that has a hillariously high profit margin.

So, all in all - a very interesting article, and i think it is healthy for someone or anyone to challenge or attack your convictions, and your obsessions. If not for anything else, to make you re-verify or defend your priorities. Good food for thought. I like articles that challenge, and provoke me.

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Old 10-16-05, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by skiblet
Obviously, nearly everyone in this thread took offense to this writers attack against DVD collectors, and people took any angle they could to mock his writing style, or commentary.

While he was deliberately cruel, cynical, and bitter in his delivery (thats his own personal issue not ours), the truth is - I feel like hes got a pretty good point. His point is exadderated (sp?) for effect, but when you think about it:
That's Joel Stein's deal these days, mocking things that are important or embraced by some part of the public. It doesn't matter what the subject is, as long as he can attack it and get some attention and a paycheck in the process. He may stumble on some good points, as he has here, but that's not really his aim.

I don't quite understand why he's so derisive of popular culture, since without it he wouldn't have a career, but whatever. And don't worry, he'll be on to something else next time.
Old 10-16-05, 10:52 AM
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The lady (ladies?) doth protest too much, methinks.
Old 10-16-05, 10:55 AM
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If you watch any movie more than four times when you're more than 6 years old, you've either got Alzheimer's or are too embarrassed to buy new porn.
Even if this piece is a joke, I find this particular statement completely tasteless. Having to see my mother slowly wither away due to this disease is something I don't wish anyone to go through. The fact that he jokes about it so easily just shows his lack of disregard for his readers.
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this is one of the most disturbing images i have seen in some time!
Old 10-16-05, 11:04 AM
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I actually liked the article. Stupid fun. I got a kick out of it, just don't take it as an insult if you are, an "overcollector" of dvds. That is one of the points that he was trying to make, some people over collect these things, just like any other collection of any kind. This is an article taking a stab at the over collector.
Old 10-16-05, 11:23 AM
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He has a poitn in his article (although it's extreme).... there's no need to own dvds when you probably wont watch them that much..


then again there's no need to go out on the weekends, attend shows/concerts, go on vacation, etc... there is no NEED but it is pampering yourself & enjoying life..

those are needs in life, and dvd's assist some in them
Old 10-16-05, 11:26 AM
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the article has a good point or two, but its full of holes - and you couldnt fill those holes without the thing sounding even more broad and silly that it already is (somehow). in the end, a much more positive (no less patronising) message would have been 'i hope youre happy with how you spend your money'.

personally, i buy what i cant (at the time of purchase) rent (for 99% of cases)... i dont drink, dont smoke, dont spend a lot of money in other disposable fashions, i get a lot from unusual experiences and i have an eye for where i can find those experiences - so i buy what i like, and i like what i buy.
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Just so I'm clear, the OP Wannabe is Joel Stein?

If so, I don't understand why there's anything past the second post.
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Originally Posted by Kimiakane
It could also be that he is just one of the people on the internet who posts things like this just to anger the others at the forum, get a rise out of them, and then sit back for a few days to get amusement from the heated responses they get from their thread. I have witnessed these types of individuals at many of the boards I've frequented during the last decade. Don't be surprised if he starts strirring the bowl by launching more explosive thread entrys here or elsewhere at this site.
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Old 10-16-05, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by logboy
... i dont drink, dont smoke
We finally know the answer to Adam Ant's question, "What do you do?", and its BUY DVD'S!
Old 10-16-05, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardW
Even if this piece is a joke, I find this particular statement completely tasteless. Having to see my mother slowly wither away due to this disease is something I don't wish anyone to go through. The fact that he jokes about it so easily just shows his lack of disregard for his readers.
No doubt....what an idiot.

If he had an actual passion for films....he might think different. In building my library of films...the dvd just happens to come with it. The film itself is whats key. And it's because I have my home and life in order as to why I can afford to have recess on the playground or in the sandbox.

Of course I know he's joking, because not even he could be that stupid.
Old 10-16-05, 05:08 PM
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That's an awful lot of living room space to devote to the possibility that someday you're going to get in an argument with your spouse about whether the ending of "The Tempest" was stolen from Ovid. If you wanted to eat up wall space on argument avoiders, you'd just put up a huge wipe-board to record how many times a week you've had sex.

My DVDs are in a separate room..not in my living room. Also, who the f uses the word "twit" these days??
Old 10-16-05, 05:08 PM
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I pay less than $6 per DVD with Columbia House. For the extra two bucks over renting, I have absolutely no late fees ever, I can get the widescreen/uncut version and I don't have the hassle of finding it at BB (or wherever) and returning it. Also, I can decide what I want to watch the moment I enter my HT room. That makes me strange how?
Old 10-16-05, 06:50 PM
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Oh, c' mon people! The article was fairly funny...and accurate. I have a huge collection of comics/DVDs/CDs/other junk, and even I sometimes think, "What the hell do I have all this crap for?"
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Originally Posted by skiblet
While he was deliberately cruel, cynical, and bitter in his delivery (thats his own personal issue not ours), the truth is - I feel like hes got a pretty good point. His point is exadderated (sp?) for effect, etc, etc...
Wow, finally. You said everything I wanted to, but was too lazy to. I don't see why people are so pissed off, what he's saying is true. Buying dvd's is mostly for materialistic value, maybe not for all, but for a lot of people. Me being one of these people, I can easily walk a few blocks and rent Casablanca for $3, but instead I pay $30. Why? Am I really going to watch it 10x... maybe, but probably not with most dvd's I buy. Of course you can watch it whenever you want, but still...

I'm not saying we should stop buying dvds, but when you think about it, just like collecting stamps or baseball cards, it's kind of pointless.
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Originally Posted by The Ferret
I'm not saying we should stop buying dvds, but when you think about it, just like collecting stamps or baseball cards, it's kind of pointless.
I was thinking about that today, actually. Buying and trading baseball cards, while fun for kids, is mostly done to collect them because of their value. Not many released today will ever be rare, unless they're limited issue cards. Like comics and other collectibles, thousands of first editions are sealed and stored because people don't understand times have changed. In 50 years, there won't be a shortage of Derek Jeter cards in great shape, so they won't be worth what a 1952 Micky Mantle is.

Unless you know the DVD will be OOP and will gain value, odds are you'll lose money if you sell it. DVDs are bought to enjoy the movie, just like TVs and projectors. DVDs are just one part of creating the theater experience at home, so why not write an article about plasma TVs, speakers, or popcorn machines?

No one buys baseball cards to look at a few times, and then sell for half the price they paid.
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So what is the correct thing to do, never buy anything? Just rent movies and games, check out books from the library and never have anything but what is absolutely necessary in your home. That is a better way to live? In some empty sterile enviroment with no personality of your own?

Collecting is a very positive thing for almost everyone that does it. I would imagine that the instances of people ruining their lifes by collecting are infinitesimal. Movies actually make more sense to collect than other stuff like stamps and cards. If anyone has ever had to deal with a Blockbuster they will understand why paying $10 for a DVD is much prefered to a $5 rental.

While its funny to poke fun at people and call them dorks because they collect things (I guess if you are into that) its really a pointless article that added nothing useful from what I can see. I like how a guy writes an article in a "I'm better than you tone" accusing people who buy DVDs of the very same thing.

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Old 10-16-05, 08:18 PM
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I can easily walk a few blocks and rent Casablanca for $3, but instead I pay $30. Why? Am I really going to watch it 10x... maybe, but probably not with most dvd's I buy. Of course you can watch it whenever you want, but still...
Well then, I guess the merit of this article lies in the eye of the beholder. If you actually pay $30 for your DVD's, then yeah, I can understand how you'd sympathize with his stance. As for me, I paid $8 (used) for my Casablanca SE. I've watched it at least three times (a modest estimate). I'm already a few dollars over the rental curve, and I've got years left with it.

My recommendation: stop getting ripped off by paying outrageous prices for your movies. You'll enjoy your collection more.

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