The Brothers Grimm - Due 12/20
09-21-05, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fryinpan1
Monica Bellucci 
I may give this a blind buy.
I may give this a blind buy.
Originally Posted by AudioWizard
It wasn't that great.
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09-21-05, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
But it was Terry Gilliam! Was it really that bad?
I actually didn't think it was that bad, I was entertained to a point, but I thought the biggest flaw was the acting from the three leads Damon, Ledger and the lead actress (I'm forgetting her name). Absolutely zero chemistry.
09-21-05, 02:49 PM
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I almost didn't see the movie, after reading the reviews. I thought it would be boring. It wasn't boring. It wasn't perfect, but I enjoyed it pretty well and I'm glad I saw it. I'd probably put it between Time Bandits and Fisher King (but I've only seen it once so that could change).
For comparison, my opinion on other TG non-MP movies
Brazil: Great
12 Monkeys: Very good
Time Bandits: Good (even though it was slow in parts)
Fisher King: Good
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas: OK, not great
Baron Munchausen: Just so-so, some cool stuff, but I got bored enough the one time I saw it that I haven't seen it again.
Edit: Jabberwocky (for the guy below): Didn't see it
I don't know why, I've almost meant to, I just never have. I'll get right on it though!
Edit 2: Monica Belluci wasn't in it much, but she was really hot.
Edit3: Since this is DVD Talk, not movie talk, let me just say: I'll most likely be buying this.
For comparison, my opinion on other TG non-MP movies
Brazil: Great
12 Monkeys: Very good
Time Bandits: Good (even though it was slow in parts)
Fisher King: Good
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas: OK, not great
Baron Munchausen: Just so-so, some cool stuff, but I got bored enough the one time I saw it that I haven't seen it again.
Edit: Jabberwocky (for the guy below): Didn't see it
I don't know why, I've almost meant to, I just never have. I'll get right on it though!Edit 2: Monica Belluci wasn't in it much, but she was really hot.
Edit3: Since this is DVD Talk, not movie talk, let me just say: I'll most likely be buying this.
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09-21-05, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Giles
And Miramax were bozos buy handing out press photos of
- talk about spoilers.
Spoiler:
09-21-05, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Morf
Wow, thanks for being a bozo yourself. Just because you were spoiled doesn't mean you need to spoil others.
oh come on, every newspaper review of the film had that accompanied photo.
(sorry, corrected).
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10-26-05, 12:56 PM
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Disc details from DavisDVD:
Buena Vista's The Brothers Grimm is due on December 20th and we have all the details. The visually sumptuous film will be available with a 1.85:1 anamorphic transfer, Dolby Digital 5.1, an audio commentary with director Terry Gilliam, deleted scenes with optional director commentary, "Bringing the Fairytale to Life" and "The Visual Magic of The Brothers Grimm" behind-the-scenes featurettes. Retail is $29.99.
10-26-05, 02:46 PM
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I love Terry Gilliam and can't believe how his pictures are always butchered and cut to pieces.
If there is a longer more Gilliam cut of the movie, will that ever see the light of day on DVD?
If so ill just wait for that and make believe he didnt finish this. He seems to do that.
If there is a longer more Gilliam cut of the movie, will that ever see the light of day on DVD?
If so ill just wait for that and make believe he didnt finish this. He seems to do that.
10-26-05, 02:47 PM
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That and Serenity will go on me X-Mas list! Brothers Grimm was unmistakably Gilliam with its characters and style, but it had studio meddling written all over it, especially when they cast an unknown whose only real qualification seemed to be that she had a hot body in the female lead as opposed to Gilliam's first choice, Samantha Morton. Morton might not have been hot, but she would have at least given a good performance as opposed to the wooden one we received. In short, I didn't like it that much, but will take it as a gift! 
10-26-05, 03:21 PM
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I found this to be a very entertaining movie. It was a little unfocused in the beginning, and the shifts in tone was distracting, but once the motor got humming, I had a good time. I would love to see a Director's cut if there was one. This is pretty much what you get with a Gilliam film, whether it's his fault or not.
12-15-05, 06:52 PM
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I haven't seen the film and planned on blind buying it but it doesn't look like it's gonna be on sale tues ($19.99 or $17.99 isn't worth a blind buy for me with such bad reviews) If it's as bad as i've heard....I may wait for a 2 for $20 sale.
12-15-05, 06:59 PM
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Huge Gilliam fan, I was lukewarm about this film, I do want it for my Gilliam DVD collection though, especially since it has a commentary track, but also not for $17-$19. I can wait a bit longer for it.
12-15-05, 07:10 PM
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Although Gilliam had a lot of studio interference (as usual), when the movie was released he claimed that he got his desired cut out of it. I doubt we will see any more from it.
12-15-05, 08:06 PM
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I'm not particularly a Gilliam fan, but I did like the movie. Doubt if I'll get the DVD.
Now if they will only get Georage Pal's Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm out, I'll be all over that.
Now if they will only get Georage Pal's Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm out, I'll be all over that.
12-20-05, 05:36 PM
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I just rented the DVD. Some thoughts.
1. It's truly a great film in that it is a very entertaining metaphor of the birth of Romanticism as a reaction of German nationalism to France's brutal occupation of Germany under Napoleon, i.e. the rebirth of the values of irrationality (like pagan fairy tales) in reaction to the so-called enlightenment rationality imposed from the outside by a conquering imperialistic nation at the onset of the Industrial Revolution.
2. The comparison to Van Helsing scared the bejeesus out of me as this film is, without fear of contradiction, the most soulless piece of CGI-based, video game-inspired pack o'caca to ever deflower a movie screen and lower the IQ of its viewers (if that's possible). The Brothers Grimm is nothing like that, thank God! It's a witty, well thought-out and finely acted film.
3. I had to laugh thinking back at the criticism The Day After Tomorrow received because of its CGI wolves which were judged by film sophisticates in this thread and elsewhere as "sub-par". I guess they hadn't seen the wolf in Brothers Grimm, whose shortcomings can be excused by the fact that it's a fairy-tale wolf disguising a human being.
1. It's truly a great film in that it is a very entertaining metaphor of the birth of Romanticism as a reaction of German nationalism to France's brutal occupation of Germany under Napoleon, i.e. the rebirth of the values of irrationality (like pagan fairy tales) in reaction to the so-called enlightenment rationality imposed from the outside by a conquering imperialistic nation at the onset of the Industrial Revolution.
2. The comparison to Van Helsing scared the bejeesus out of me as this film is, without fear of contradiction, the most soulless piece of CGI-based, video game-inspired pack o'caca to ever deflower a movie screen and lower the IQ of its viewers (if that's possible). The Brothers Grimm is nothing like that, thank God! It's a witty, well thought-out and finely acted film.
3. I had to laugh thinking back at the criticism The Day After Tomorrow received because of its CGI wolves which were judged by film sophisticates in this thread and elsewhere as "sub-par". I guess they hadn't seen the wolf in Brothers Grimm, whose shortcomings can be excused by the fact that it's a fairy-tale wolf disguising a human being.
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12-20-05, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by baracine
I just rented the DVD. Some thoughts.
1. It's truly a great film in that it is a very entertaining metaphor of the birth of Romanticism as a reaction of German nationalism to France's brutal occupation of Germany under Napoleon, i.e. the rebirth of the values or irrationality (like pagan fairy tales) in reaction to the so-called enlightenment rationality imposed from the outside by a conquering imperialistic nation at the onset of the Industrial Revolution.
2. The comparison to Van Helsing scared the bejeesus out of me as this film is, without fear of contradiction. the most soulless piece of CGI-based, video game-inspired package of caca to ever deflower a movie screen and lower the IQ of its viewers (if that's possible). The Brothers Grimm is nothing like that, thank God! It's a witty, well thought-out and finely acted film.
3. I had to laugh thinking back at the criticism The Day After Tomorrow received because of its CGI wolves which were judged by film sophisticates in this thread and elsewhere as "sub-par". I guess they hadn't seen the wolf in Brothers Grimm, whose shortcomings can be excused by the fact that it's a fairy-tale wolf disguising a human being.
1. It's truly a great film in that it is a very entertaining metaphor of the birth of Romanticism as a reaction of German nationalism to France's brutal occupation of Germany under Napoleon, i.e. the rebirth of the values or irrationality (like pagan fairy tales) in reaction to the so-called enlightenment rationality imposed from the outside by a conquering imperialistic nation at the onset of the Industrial Revolution.
2. The comparison to Van Helsing scared the bejeesus out of me as this film is, without fear of contradiction. the most soulless piece of CGI-based, video game-inspired package of caca to ever deflower a movie screen and lower the IQ of its viewers (if that's possible). The Brothers Grimm is nothing like that, thank God! It's a witty, well thought-out and finely acted film.
3. I had to laugh thinking back at the criticism The Day After Tomorrow received because of its CGI wolves which were judged by film sophisticates in this thread and elsewhere as "sub-par". I guess they hadn't seen the wolf in Brothers Grimm, whose shortcomings can be excused by the fact that it's a fairy-tale wolf disguising a human being.
12-20-05, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by marcellusk
so would you recommend a purchase?
All the characters are perfectly cast. Heath Ledger and Matt Damon's performances are superb. Even Monica Belluci, whom I consider the Whore of Babylon, is not exactly out of character as the Evil blood-drinking Queen.
Last edited by baracine; 12-21-05 at 07:04 AM.
