Josh-da-man

Are the "Space" and "Time" shorts not included, then?

Superman07

Well this is somewhat sad news:

It does make sense, and I think all involved seem to understand that. Plus whenever I saw viewing figures for the program it was quite low 1M or less.

I wonder how or if this will impact the cost of the DVD sets since some of this content has been included as extras.

The Valeyard

I read another announcement that said they were included.

EDIT: Here it is - From Outpost Gallifrey:

milo bloom

I guess I never realized that Confidential was a full length episode for every episode of Who. I mean, it's nice for the fans, but there's gotta be a point where it's overkill.

Ky-Fi

Picked up the set of the two mid-60s Peter Cushing Doctor Who movies on R2. I can see why they're not really canon, since Doctor Who isn't an alien in these, but I thought they were both fun and entertaining, with some nice sets and effects, score, etc. "Dalekmania" is a decent extra feature.

milo bloom

I had previously dismissed them for not being canon, but I once read a speculation that they were the adventures of the aged 10.5 (grown from the hand) Doctor in the other dimension. Just might make me pick that set up someday...

The Valeyard

LOL!!! I never heard that. Oh my God, that's awesome!!

MTRodaba2468

I have the Anchor Bay R1 release of that set (thanks to this thread, actually, since it introduced me to Mike's Comics).

Even with them not being canon, I still enjoyed them.

Disc-Flipper

I don't like that the UK already got the Season 6 part 2 release on October 10th, but it won't be out in the US/Canada until November 8th. The whole point of the vanilla releases was to get them out as quickly as possible after airing. I will wait for the full series 6 boxset instead.

The Valeyard

Looks like Shada is coming next year....

milo bloom

Hope they've used some kind of animation to fill in the blanks. I just can't get interested in buying those "lost episode" sets.

Meglos

"More Than Thirty Years in the TARDIS"? That's a really good documentray.

BasementArt

Not alot of information is known about Shada at the moment, all that I have heard is that Ian Levine's personally produced animation for Shada has been turned down by Dan Hall and 2|E.

I haven't seen any of it so I can't judge the quality, but the caps looked nice so who knows why they didn't go ahead with it.

Josh-da-man

http://www.starburstmagazine.com/fea...-the-shada-man

I'd really love to see this...

milo bloom

I can't think of any reason besides clashing egos that that footage wouldn't be used and that would be a damn shame as it looks fantastic.

Seriously hoping they do this release right. We're doing a big purge of our DVD collection at home, and Who is one of the few things I plan on keeping and I want every DVD to be worth it.

klandersen

I'm guessing that the Shada disc is what was released on VHS many years ago? If it is it was well done but by no means perfect.

mythmaker18

Dan Hall didn't turn it down, according to comments he's since made at a convention. He said he liked Ian's efforts and hoped they'd one day be seen by a larger audience. My guess is someone higher-up at 2|e nixed it, or there were rights/clearance problems or something.

I don't think it's supposed to be just a straight reissue of that, but who knows. If not, one hopes they would at least include that version on a second disc for those who haven't seen it (or have since ditched their VHS copies). If not, I guess that particular VHS release will remain collectible!

The Valeyard

After a long delay, I finally updated the first two posts.

Kevin M. Dean

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DoctorWhosScarf

I was wondering if I could get some opinions on which Doctor Who DVDs I should buy next. At first I thought I would go one Doctor at a time, but not every Doctor has all their episodes out on DVD. A while back I bought all of the William Hartnell episodes that were out at the time, minus that Lost In Time set. Now I see there is another William Hartnell DVD coming out next year. Besides the William Hartnell DVDs I bought:

-Tom Baker first outing through Genesis Of The Daleks
-The Complete Series 1-4
-The David Tennant animated movies
-The David Tennant specials

When is the best time to buy Doctor Who DVDs? Is there a certain time of year they usually are on sale?

milo bloom

Deep Discount does sales here and there, I've bought Who from them before. Sometimes the Amazon everyday prices are pretty good (my wife has been known to throw in a $10 story to bump her order into free shipping).


How about finishing off Tom Baker?

Josh-da-man

The Tom Baker era is the most famous run of the original Doctor Who. It's where most people started watching and the most-shown in the US. From there, I'd concentrate on the Pertwee and Davison eras.

The Colin Baker and McCoy runs are really hit-or-miss. The show started taking a nose-dive in quality around there, mostly due to behind-the-scenes BBC politics. It was cancelled in 1989 during McCoy's run.

The Hartnell and Troughton runs are sort of problematic because there are a lot of missing episodes. Long story short, prior to 1970, it was standard procedure for the BBC to trash their catalog material and they destroyed all of their copies of these programs. The surviving episodes from this era come from private collections, copies found overseas, etc. There are only six complete Troughton stories out of twenty-one aired. Hartnell fares a bit better with seventeen complete stories out of twenty-nine.

DoctorWhosScarf

Thank you for your replies. I have some more questions, and will probably have even more after.

For the lost stories I did think about buying the CD sets they put out where they've put the audio from the show in a radio serial format, or so was my understanding. Do those CD collections make up all of the lost episodes? Isn't the problem with the lost episodes that they have recovered audio from all the shows but they just don't have the video (or good quality video anyway)?

In your opinion would that Lost In Time set of the first two Doctors be worth getting? I considered getting it when I was buying the Hartnell episodes, but there are only a few complete serials on there. And even with that those "complete" serials are a combination of TV and audio only. An Amazon review said the documentary on there was good, but does that alone make it worth getting?

Tomb Of The Cybermen seems to be out of print. Is there a special edition of it coming, or is the listing of it on Amazon just false?

With Tom Baker's episodes not all of the serials have been put out in their numbered order. I don't remember the number or the exact name of the serial, but after the Cybermen serial that comes after Genesis Of The Daleks there is a serial that hasn't yet been put out. Then after that they seem to continue in the correct number order with maybe a missing one here or there. If I don't wait for those missing serials to come out and just watch in as best of a chronological order as I can, will it flow ok or will there be confusing continuity errors? When I finish watching my Hartnell episodes would it be too confusing of a jump if I jumped to the Tom Baker episodes, or in your opinion should I watch some stuff between those?

I know that there are differences from the older episodes and the newer series, but could you recommend me some serials based on some of the episodes of the new series I like? Once again I don't remember the names of the episodes off the top of my head, so I'll do my best to describe them. Some of my favorites are:

-The second episode of the complete first series where The Doctor takes Rose to the space station
-The Charles Dickens episode from the complete first series
-The Bad Wolf storyline from the complete first series
-The episode from the complete first series with that villain in the TV
-Rise Of The Cybermen and The Age Of Steel from the complete second series
-Army Of Ghosts and Doomsday from the complete second series
-The Shakespeare episode from the complete third series
-The Davros episodes from the complete fourth series (I think one of the episodes was called Journey's End
-The Weeping Angels episodes from the complete fifth series
-The Churchill episode from the complete fifth series
-The Pandora box (or actually I think they called it a cube) episodes
-Basically all of the complete sixth series

I realize that there are lots of Daleks and Cybermen in my list, but episodes you recommend don't have to include them. The truth is out of all the Doctor Who episodes I've seen I can't really think of any I hate, perhaps just ones I don't like as much as others. So please, based on some of the stuff I've listed or just on what episodes of Doctor Who you think are best, please recommend me some Doctor Who serials.

The Valeyard

Audio-wise, pretty much every televised episode of Doctor Who is accessible. Back in the day before video recorders, old school Who fans use to record the first-run episodes on cassette tape. There's a great documentary about those fans on one of the Who DVDS (Possibly the Lost in Time set).

Before the internet, right as Doctor Who was coming out on VHS, fans would offer these lost audio gems via Mail Order or conventions. I still have an off-air recording of Galaxy Four somewhere.

Other fans would use pictures taken during the production of these stories (telesnaps) and "reconstruct" these episodes. They were usually offered for sale or trade on VHS back in the day.

At some point, the BBC saw the value of releasing these on CD and MP3. These are great releases considering these stories no longer exist visually. There is the possibility of seeing these missing episodes animated the way Invasion was and Reign of Terror will be. These off-air recordings are the keystone in making this happen.


For me? YES. It's a great set. It compiles every existing scrap of material from every missing story and includes full episodes if they're available. If you're a dedicated Who nut, it needs to be in your collection.


Special Edition is coming soon. The entire story has been VidFired to give it the original video-look. The OOP DVD did not do this.


That would be Terror of the Zygons.

Old school Doctor Who episodes always managed to stay self-contained. You don't need to watch Terror of the Zygons to understand Planet of Evil. In it's history, there have been story arcs that play out throughout a season/series (much like the current show does) but overall, each episode doesn't need the other to exist.

There are exceptions tho. Story arcs like The Key to Time, the E-Space Trilogy or The Trial of a Time Lord seasons keep the episodes closely connected together. Thankfully, the BBC usually releases those as box sets, keeping the continuity intact.

Essentially, if it's not released as a box set, you don't have to worry about missing anything major.


That's a loaded question. It pretty much covers a large range of Doctor Who stories.

Here are some of my favorites:

Hartnell:

The Dalek Invasion of Earth
The Romans
The Time Meddler
The War Machines

Troughton:

Tomb of the Cybermen
The Invasion
The Seeds of Death
The War Games

Pertwee:

Spearhead From Space
Inferno
Day of the Daleks
The Three Doctors
Carnival of Monsters
The Time Warrior

T. Baker:

The Ark in Space
Genesis of the Daleks
Pyramids of Mars
The Android Invasion
Brain of Morbius
The Deadly Assassin
The Talons of Weng-Chiang
Horror of Fang Rock
The Sun Makers
City of Death
The Leisure Hive
Logopolis

Davison:

Castrovalva
The Visitation
Earthshock
The Five Doctors
The Caves of Androzani

C. Baker:

Vengeance on Varos
The Two Doctors
The Trial of a Time Lord

McCoy:
Remembrance of the Daleks
Battlefield
Ghost Light
The Curse of Fenric

McGann:

The TV Movie

Those are just off the top of my head. I pretty much love every episode of Doctor Who. Even the clunkers. The show has the enduring quality of changing so much that it becomes a completely different show every so many years.

A Hartnell story (educational show) is so different from a Troughton (monster of the week) and Pertwee story (exiled to earth/UNIT). Tom Baker's era went through several changes in tone (Gothic, Comedy, Pure Science Fiction). The violent era of Colin Baker differs vastly from the McCoy "Who is the Doctor?" era. I absolutely love that.

It's an amazing show. It's longevity is proof of that.