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Old 09-19-05, 10:17 AM
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Nightmare Before Christmas: missed opportunity?

With Corpse Bride hitting theaters 9/23, seems like now would have been an excellent opportunity to rerelease Nightmare Before Christmas in a nice new anamorphic-widescreen DVD set. The original non-anamorphic release is definitely showing its age. Anyone hear of any plans for a rerelease...?

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A new edition when Corpse Bride hits DVD would be welcome.
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so the current one is non-anamorphic? Good to know. I was planning on picking it up. I guess not.
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Disney needs to rerelease James and the Giant Peach as well. The current edition is also not anamorphic.
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In other regions where it is anamorphic, they've altered the aspect ratio (from 1.66:1 to 1.78:1).

I hope that when/if this does get an anamorphic release in R1, it is in the proper ratio.
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Aren't there already 2 out on the market now? Both are non-anamorphic?
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The r2 Scandinavian release is in 1.66:1, and it's anamorphic. There's a review in English over here:
http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=6167
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I think the R2 UK edition is anamorphic, but don't quote me.

while the current disc is great - in terms of supplements and DTS sound - for it not to be anamorphic is a head scratcher.
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I think it is a missed opportunity, but I wonder if they didn't do it because they have nothing to do with each other (atleast that is what I thought).
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Originally Posted by Big Worms
I think it is a missed opportunity, but I wonder if they didn't do it because they have nothing to do with each other (atleast that is what I thought).
That usually doesn't stop them. Look how long WB held a finished product (Iron Giant:SE) for over a year to coincide with the Incredibles theatrical release from Disney.

Definte missed opportunity. Then again, any DVD that should be anamorphic and is not is a missed opportunity. [cough] House M.D. [cough] C.S.I. Season 1 [cough] or stupidity as is with these two. No excuse.
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I'm pretty happy with the current disc for now anyway. Looks pretty good to me and the extras are excellent. Love Vincent and the other short film.
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Josh, on what type of display do you watch "The Nightmare Before Christmas"? If it is, in fact, a widescreen display, then I'm always shocked to hear people say they are "pretty happy" with their current non-anamorphic discs. If it is a standard display, then I understand.
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I have a 4:3 Sony Wega, though it does have a wide screen enhanced mode.

And yes, anamorphic DVDs due look much better on it.

However, I'm a movie fan, not a videophile, so unless a transfer is absolutely awful, I generally don't give a shit. And this one is a pretty damn nice transfer for a non-anamorphic disc.
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Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
I... And this one is a pretty damn nice transfer for a non-anamorphic disc.
I agree, even viewed on my home theatre setup

(DVD Player): Sony DVP-CX985V

component video processed through to Samsung Widescreen HiDef TXR3079, Zoom 1 mode

it's still looks great.
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The current copy is just fine for me as well... I doubt I would throw down another $20 just for an anamorphic transfer...
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If y'all don't care, that's good for you, but I have refused and will continue to refuse to get "The Nightmare Before Christmas" or any other non-anamorphic movie until it receives the anamorphic enhancement it deserves. The only non-anamorphic movies I own are "The Apostle" (I didn't know any better at the time) and "Battlestar Galactica" (I thought sure if they were re-releasing it, they'd at least make it anamorphic this time.) Uggggh!
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Different strokes for different folks.

I watch movies to enjoy the film, not to admire the picture quality, so I'm not going to pass on one of my favorites just because it's not anamorphic.
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If that's the case, Josh, why bother with DVDs? You can enjoy the film on your old VHS copy.
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VHS is rarely in OAR, and you have to rewind.

But seriously, I do care somewhat about picture quality, I'd pass on a title I loved if the non-anamorphic transfer was really bad. But Nightmare is a damn good one. Maybe the best looking non-anamorphic disc I've seen.

I'm just not a videophile that can't enjoy a movie if the picture quality is less than perfect.
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If that's the case, Josh, why bother with DVDs? You can enjoy the film on your old VHS copy.
I'm pretty sure the VHS copy doesn't have DTS.
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Originally Posted by Big Worms
I think it is a missed opportunity, but I wonder if they didn't do it because they have nothing to do with each other (atleast that is what I thought).
Both are stop-motion Tim Burton films, and Nightmare has a very large cult following.

Does there need to be anything else?
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I really hope for a re-release as well. There's really no good way to watch a non-anamorphic 1.66:1 movie on a widescreen TV. Either you use Zoom mode and crop some image off the top and bottom, or you use Standard mode and deal with bars on all 4 sides.

I do agree that the picture quality of the current disc is suprisingly decent for a non-anamoprhic DVD, especially considering how they crammed so many supplements plus a DTS track onto the same disc as the movie. I guess for whatever reason it must have been an easy picture to compress.
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Hold off on getting a non-anamorphic release unless an anamorphic release is in the making is silly, IMHO. I'd rather enjoy it now and upgrade later than just piss and moan about it.
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peep (and others). I felt the same way until I got my 106" widescreen.(Front projection) Let me tell you, those non-anamorphic films look SIGNFICANTLY worse, smaller, larger black bars (on ALL 4 sides).... yes, I can blow the image up to fill the screen but trust me - you lose a LOT of PQ doing that - and these non-anamorphic DVDs really show their faults on a large screen.

When I had a 32" square TV I couldn't tell the difference and wondered what all the hooping and hollering was about. Now you couldn't pay me to buy a non-anamorphic DVD again..

Just my 2 cents..
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If it's anamorphic and keeps the DTS track. I'm in.


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