lamphorn

I hope sometime soon we can add Eyes Wide Shut to that list. With all the unrated cuts outselling the theatricals, I can't understand why Warners won't put out the last Kubrick film the way he made it. I just don't get it.

matome

Ransom

Giles

^bump

Updated

ThatGuamGuy

This list is confusing me slightly, because sometimes (like "Apocalypse Now") a distinction is made when the movie was or is available in its original theatrical cut, and sometimes ("Ali", "Bad Santa"...) it doesn't mention it.

'Manhunter' - there have been other cuts, a mis-labelled "theatrical" cut and an interim director's cut
'Thief' was modified slightly

Chaplin- Image released the original theatrical cuts of these, but the recent Warner re-releases were Chaplin's later-in-life re-cuts:
'Modern Times'
'A King In New York'
'A Lady In Paris'
'The Kid'
'The Circus' has different music or something, I don't know if you'd count that.

'1941' and 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind' have both been modified from their original cuts
'The Wild Bunch' is only the "director's cut" (prepared after Peckinpah died)
Wasn't there an extended cut of the new 'Texas Chainsaw Massacre'?
'Blade Runner' is only available in a director's cut, and there's a new cut on the way if they ever clear the legal hurdles

Giles

and that's kind of the point to this list, is that alot of the studios don't really promote when a newer version of a film gets released.

Filmmaker

Just migrating the list I provided in another post for whatever help it provides:

1941: Fully Restored Version with Bonus Footage--Collector's Edition
Abyss, The--Special Edition
Alien--2003 Director's Cut
Aliens--1991 Special Edition
Alien 3--2003 Special Edition
Alien Resurrection--2003 Special Edition
Apocalypse Now Redux
Apollo 13--IMAX Version
Armageddon: Exclusive Director's Cut--The Criterion Collection
Big Red One, The: The Reconstruction
Blade Runner: The Director's Cut
Blues Brothers, The: Expanded Version w/Bonus Footage--Collector's Edition/25th Anniversary Edition
Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle--Unrated Widescreen Special Edition
Close Encounters of the Third Kind--The Collector's Edition
Donnie Darko: The Director's Cut
Duel--Collector's Edition
E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial--2002 Release
Exorcist, William Peter Blatty's The: The Version You've Never Seen
Ghosts of the Abyss
Gladiator [2000]--Extended Edition
Good, the Bad and the Ugly, The--Special Edition Collector's Set
Halloween, John Carpenter's: Television Version
Independence Day: Special Edition [2000]
It, Stephen King's (Movie-Edit Version)
Kalifornia (Unrated Version)
Leon (a.k.a. The Professional)--Uncut International Deluxe Edition
Lethal Weapon: Director's Cut
Lethal Weapon 2: Director's Cut
Lethal Weapon 3: Director's Cut
Lord of the Rings, The: The Fellowship of the Ring--Special Extended Edition
Lord of the Rings, The: The Two Towers--Special Extended Edition
Lord of the Rings, The: The Return of the King--Special Extended Edition
Mallrats--10th Anniversary Extended Edition
Pearl Harbor: The Director's Cut--Vista Series
Ring Two, The--Unrated Edition
Sling Blade: Exclusive Director's Cut--Collector's Series
Spartacus: Uncut and Fully Restored--The Criterion Collection
Star Trek: The Motion Picture--The Director's Edition
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan--The Director's Edition
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country--Special Collector's Edition
Star Wars, Episode IV: A New Hope--2004 Director's Cut
Star Wars, Ep. V: The Empire Strikes Back--2004 Executive Producer's Cut
Star Wars, Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi--2004 Executive Producer's Cut
Stargate: Special Edition [1996]
Strangers on a Train, Alfred Hitchcock's--Preview Version
Superman [1978]--Expanded Edition
Terminator 2: Judgment Day: Special Edition [1993]
Terminator 2: Judgment Day: Extended Spec. Ed. [2000] (easter egg)
There's Something About Mary--There's Something More About Mary Collector's Edition
THX-1138--The George Lucas Director's Cut
X-Files, The: Fight the Future--Extended Home Video Version

bboisvert

On that topic, does anyone know of a website that details the differences between the Image/Warner discs. Not the picture quality, but rather the different cuts/changes made?

Giles

I'm one step ahead of you, already noted your list from the other thread and added some of your mentioned discs into the list I've complied - thanks filmmaker

Filmmaker

djtoell

See this Usenet post from the ultimate authority.

DJ

joltman

Bride of Re-Animator (r-rated/unrated)
Dawn of the Dead (2004) (r-rated/unrated DC)
Monty Python's The Meaning of Life (theatrical/DC)

Giles

noted and updated - thanks!

grundle

The first region 1 DVD release of Bound was unrated. It had a few extra seconds of bedroom footage.

The current region 1 DVD is the R-rated theatrical version.

Giles

updated:

Tombs of the Blind Dead
Return of the Evil Dead
Dumb and Dumber (unrated)

geomon666

C.H.U.D. (Rated R DC)
Beyond The Mat (Unrated DC)
The Crow: City Of Angels (Rated R DC)
Fantasia (124 Minute Restored Roadshow Version)
The Forgotten (91 Min. Theatrical / 94 Min. Extended)
Highlander 2: The Quickening ("Renegade Version" Special Edition)
Zombi 3 (Extended Japanese Version)

djtoell

FWIW, C.H.U.D.'s original theatrical release was rated R. The version used on the Anchor Bay disc added back in footage excised for length (it was previously used for network television broadcast, but first appeared in the original pre-release cut of the film) and put things in their correct order. Anchor Bay should not actually even have an R rating on the back of their package, as the film has never been submitted for a new rating since the original theatrical edit that New World got an R for.

DJ

geomon666

Yeah I know. I put it up because it's not the theatrical cut and neither is it the broadcast cut. Even the director during the commentary was confused at one point, saying "I don't know which version we're watching now."

djtoell

No, it's definitely a great addition to the list. But since you referred to it as being R, I wanted to make sure people realized that the original theatrical cut was R, as well. I didn't want there to be the implication that the theatrical cut was PG-13, for example.

DJ

Giles

oh, that's not good - the MPAA frowns down on this type of restoring of footage and applying a past rating for a new cut - regardless if the new footage has no new scenes of violence.

Egon's Ghost

BUMP: OK, I can now answer this, if any other Mann fans are interested. The UK disc of Thief is the theatrical cut. The end scene doesn't look strangely out of sych like I remember the director's cut looking (on VHS). The image is overall very dark, grainy, with edge halos, sometimes cloudy, dull, faded colors. Poor; obviously taken from an old master, probably 20 years old. Occasionally detailed image, and the night scenes tend to look good. Sound is stereo, sounds like 1981. I don't mind the grungy image, as to me it works (to some extent) with the film's atmosphere. So, if you are a Mann purist like I am, this is worth it, as we may never see a Region 1 release of the theatrical cut. There are no extras other than the cinema trailer.

Giles

bump ^ updated

lamphorn

*sigh* oh when will we Americans get to see Eyes Wide Shut the way it was envisioned? When will Warners (which I have to concede makes incredible dvds) finally give up that dumb "we don't release unrated movies" policy. Even Eurotrip got an unrated and it wasn't intended that way. Kubrick's movie is STILL unavailable in his home country.

djtoell

Since you're criticizing Warners and then naming Eurotrip in particular, it looks like you might be implying that that title is a Warners release (as opposed to just picking an absurd title to criticize the phenomenon). Just for the record, Dreamworks distributes Eurotrip on DVD.

DJ

lamphorn

Nope, just criticizing the phenomenon. Good clarification though. Warners has stated it does not release "adult" movies in the U.S. (which, I guess to them, means nc-17 or unrated).

Giles

I wonder what Warner's will do when it comes to releasing the promised uncut version of Ken Russell's The Devils - ?

I remember reading that Performance was released on VHS 'quietly' in it's original X-rated version (sans the rating but as noted: unrated).

How did they get around their own policy for releasing the unrated version of True Romance?