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I don't understand why a tv show that had captions on broadcast, would *not* have them on DVD. Arent' they encoded into the signal, and the cost has obviously already been incurred. I would think it would cost more time and energy to remove the captions in that case, than just to leave them.
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Originally Posted by dsa_shea
Every dvd should have at least CC. What is irritating to me is not being able to get the dvds of mine that have CC to work on my setup. My Trinitron shows CC while watching regular t.v., but I still can't get them to work on dvds.
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CA you list some of the specific titles you've tried that you cannot get to display CC? Maybe one of us can confirm whether or not they are encoded with CC or not.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Salty
CA you list some of the specific titles you've tried that you cannot get to display CC? Maybe one of us can confirm whether or not they are encoded with CC or not.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Salty
CA you list some of the specific titles you've tried that you cannot get to display CC? Maybe one of us can confirm whether or not they are encoded with CC or not.
Stargate SG-1 Season 1 Boomtown These are a few that I have tried and all with the same results. I'll try to add more to the list in a bit. Thanks a lot for your help. |
Originally Posted by dsa_shea
C.S.I. Miami
Stargate SG-1 Season 1 Boomtown These are a few that I have tried and all with the same results. I'll try to add more to the list in a bit. Thanks a lot for your help. BoomTown has Closed Caption Stargate SG-1 Season 1 doesn't seem to have Closed Caption |
A couple of years ago I purchased The Cotton Club at Circuit City, since I'm hard of hearing I tried getting the close-captioned turn on since the back of the box have the close-captioned symbol on it, well I could'nt get it to display at all on my 24" Sony Trinitron. I tried watching Mississippi Burning since it was made by the same studio MGM and it worked. Figuring I must have a defected disc I exchanged it for a new one. Well to my dismay that one did'nt even work at all. I was so pissed I tried emailng MGM about the defect and have not heard from them even since. :mad:
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Originally Posted by DVDFreaker
C.S.I Miami has Closed Caption
BoomTown has Closed Caption Stargate SG-1 Season 1 doesn't seem to have Closed Caption |
Originally Posted by dom56
A couple of years ago I purchased The Cotton Club at Circuit City, since I'm hard of hearing I tried getting the close-captioned turn on since the back of the box have the close-captioned symbol on it, well I could'nt get it to display at all on my 24" Sony Trinitron. I tried watching Mississippi Burning since it was made by the same studio MGM and it worked. Figuring I must have a defected disc I exchanged it for a new one. Well to my dismay that one did'nt even work at all. I was so pissed I tried emailng MGM about the defect and have not heard from them even since. :mad:
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Originally Posted by DVDFreaker
C.S.I Miami has Closed Caption
BoomTown has Closed Caption Stargate SG-1 Season 1 doesn't seem to have Closed Caption |
Originally Posted by dsa_shea
Did you get a chance to test any of these dvds to see if the CC shows up for you? I know it says CC on the back of the box, but have you actually had them work for you?
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Interesting subject, and one you don't see discussed nearly often enough. There are a few aspects of Closed Captioning that maybe I can bring up, first in relation to TV shows on DVD. Broadcast captions are always copyrighted, similar to the way a translation of an existing work into another language can be copyrighted. So if a TV show airs with captioning (and by next January almost every show will) unless the very same entity that owns the captions is putting out the DVD, the show will have to be re-captioned at additional cost. NBC was showing SCTV late at night a few years ago with (poorly implemented) Closed Captioning, but it wasn't until Vol. 2 that Shout! Factory started including CC on their box sets. Now TVLand is showing SCTV segments without CC, although they're likely to fix that soon.
Complicating matters further for movies on DVD is that many people and companies don't distinguish between player generated subtitles(whether SDH or not) and actual Closed Captions that are hidden in the video signal and decoded by your set. Some Lions Gate DVDs are a perfect example. The back cover of their May makes it appear that the DVD has CC, but instead it has SDH. If the DVD has actual CC, it should feature this logo on the back or the spine: http://www.robson.org/capfaq/gifs/generic-cc.gif Or this logo which is specific to the National Captioning Institute, signifying that the DVD was captioned by NCI: http://www.robson.org/capfaq/gifs/nci-cc.gif (I think Warner Bros. is the only studio to use NCI exclusively.) The use of other similar logos - like the "two interlocking C's in a TV" pictogram on the back of the May DVD - seems to stem from the mistaken assumption that any subtitling of an English language film qualifies as CC and can be labeled as such. Complicating matters even further is the fact that progressive scan effectively disables CC (at least through component connections). If you have a DVD player that can switch between progressive and interlaced on the fly, play a major studio release with your monitor set to decode the CC and watch the captioning flicker out when you switch between the two modes. I'd like to see Fox's practice of including player-generated subs that are textually identical to the CC become standard - but for DVD extras as well as the feature itself. |
Do you think that by having my S-Video cable running through a switchbox might be the reason why my CC is not showing up? I don't see how this could be the reason, but it is possible.
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Originally Posted by dsa_shea
Do you think that by having my S-Video cable running through a switchbox might be the reason why my CC is not showing up? I don't see how this could be the reason, but it is possible.
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Ok, so I disconnected my s-video from the switchobx and connected it directly into the t.v. The CC would still not show up. So I tried playing the movie through my Playstation 2 and the same results = nada. Does the CC signal travel through the s-cable or do you need the regular video cable hooked up as well to get the CC?
I've tried on these players: 1. Norcent 2. Playstation 2 Is there anything else I might need to do to get the CC to show up? When I watch cable with my Sony Trinitron the CC shows up without a problem. Please help...thanks |
Originally Posted by dsa_shea
Does the CC signal travel through the s-cable or do you need the regular video cable hooked up as well to get the CC?
Anybody here have a Playstation or a Norcent? Can you view closed captioning when using them? |
The only thing I can come up with right now is that neither the Norcent nor the PS2 can play dvds and have the caption signal go through. I will have to move another of my dvd players to the front to make sure there is no problem with the t.v. receiving the CC signal from a source other than cable television.
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Anyone out there use a Norcent player? If you do, can you get the CC to show up on your t.v.?
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Originally Posted by dsa_shea
Anyone out there use a Norcent player? If you do, can you get the CC to show up on your t.v.?
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