Jaws rerelease 6/14/05 (with mono audio track included)
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Originally posted by cracksky
Here's part of an ad showing the specs confirming the two-hour documentary and original mono soundtrack inclusion.
Here's part of an ad showing the specs confirming the two-hour documentary and original mono soundtrack inclusion.
The teeth look just fine to me. Maybe some have been added or removed or whatever. Doesn't matter. The shark looks different from its earliest incarnations, but still sufficiently menacing. The artwork has always been essentially the same, though. I think the cover art for the 30th Anniversary Edition is very well done. Has a less-is-more feel to it. Nicely composed.
But a holographic cover inset would have been a great touch. Could have given the water some depth, and brought the skinny dipper and the shark more to the forefront.
The skinny dipper has been covered by agitated water, as observed by Julie Walker. I have Peter Benchley's novel, and the cover displays the girl in her full glory. Her body is more exposed than she is on the original poster. I think the girl has always been more obscured for all home video releases than she was on the novel.
Trivia: What was the name of the skinny dipper?
--THX
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Clips online for the JAWS doco THE SHARK IS STILL WORKING, plus Spielberg and Williams join in on the fun!!!
Y'all know me. Know how I earn a livin'... Quint here with an update on that documentary on JAWS called THE SHARK IS STILL WORKING I told you folks about a few weeks ago. It seems the filmmakers got their Great White they were hunting for.
I'm hearing they talked with Steven Spielberg for 2 hours about JAWS, going over tons of new material not out in other interviews and documentaries. I am psyched to see this chat. For someone who is obsessed with JAWS this documentary sounds like a dream come true.
Not only did they corner Spielberg, but it seems Spielberg surprised them with a special guest who was working on WOTW down the hall...
Now they have the big dogs (John Williams, Roy Scheider, Steven Spielberg) taking a nostalgic look back at this masterpiece of cinema. Considering that Spielberg seems to dislike the idea of Director's Commentary tracks, this interview could be the closest we'll get to a commentary from him on my favorite movie. What about Dreyfuss? That seems to be the only big piece of the puzzle missing.
I wouldn't be surprised if the simple addition of material from Spielberg and Williams gets this documentary picked up and released largely. If Universal were smart, they'd pick this up and release it in the fall as a single DVD while also releasing a repackage of the 30th Anniversary JAWS DVD with it. Any JAWS fan will want to see this doc and if the extras on the 30th Anniversary DVD are lacking you better bet that there'll be a demand to see this.
Anyway, if you head over to the official website for the documentary you'll find excerpts from a few of the interviews, including Greg Nicotero from KNB showing off the 1:1 scale Bruce head that he built to please the fans at Jawsfest, Joe Alves talking about the production design, Bill Butler talking about his cinematography, Spielberg telling a great story about the Orca and Williams being the cool cat he is.
YOU KNEW THERE WAS A JAWS DOCUMENTARY OUT THERE... YOU KNEW IT WAS DANGEROUS... BUT YOU LET PEOPLE CLICK ON THIS LINK ANYWAY!
JAWS 30th Anniversary DVD in mid-June, Jawsfest in early June, THE SHARK IS STILL WORKING in the works... it's a good time to be a Jaws fan!
-Quint
Clips online for the JAWS doco THE SHARK IS STILL WORKING, plus Spielberg and Williams join in on the fun!!!
Y'all know me. Know how I earn a livin'... Quint here with an update on that documentary on JAWS called THE SHARK IS STILL WORKING I told you folks about a few weeks ago. It seems the filmmakers got their Great White they were hunting for.
I'm hearing they talked with Steven Spielberg for 2 hours about JAWS, going over tons of new material not out in other interviews and documentaries. I am psyched to see this chat. For someone who is obsessed with JAWS this documentary sounds like a dream come true.
Not only did they corner Spielberg, but it seems Spielberg surprised them with a special guest who was working on WOTW down the hall...
Now they have the big dogs (John Williams, Roy Scheider, Steven Spielberg) taking a nostalgic look back at this masterpiece of cinema. Considering that Spielberg seems to dislike the idea of Director's Commentary tracks, this interview could be the closest we'll get to a commentary from him on my favorite movie. What about Dreyfuss? That seems to be the only big piece of the puzzle missing.
I wouldn't be surprised if the simple addition of material from Spielberg and Williams gets this documentary picked up and released largely. If Universal were smart, they'd pick this up and release it in the fall as a single DVD while also releasing a repackage of the 30th Anniversary JAWS DVD with it. Any JAWS fan will want to see this doc and if the extras on the 30th Anniversary DVD are lacking you better bet that there'll be a demand to see this.
Anyway, if you head over to the official website for the documentary you'll find excerpts from a few of the interviews, including Greg Nicotero from KNB showing off the 1:1 scale Bruce head that he built to please the fans at Jawsfest, Joe Alves talking about the production design, Bill Butler talking about his cinematography, Spielberg telling a great story about the Orca and Williams being the cool cat he is.
YOU KNEW THERE WAS A JAWS DOCUMENTARY OUT THERE... YOU KNEW IT WAS DANGEROUS... BUT YOU LET PEOPLE CLICK ON THIS LINK ANYWAY!
JAWS 30th Anniversary DVD in mid-June, Jawsfest in early June, THE SHARK IS STILL WORKING in the works... it's a good time to be a Jaws fan!
-Quint
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I can't understand why anybody would want to re-purchase a DVD just for a few more extra features, and such. to me, it a waste of money. I would use that money to buy a new DVD, I don't already have, not for the same title. And for the mono soundtrack is concern, can you just switch the audio on your TV,or receiver from stereo to mono to listen to the soundtrack in mono? You shouldn't need to re-purchase a DVD to have the original mono soundtrack. Just a suggestion... It's your money.
For me personally, I would not do it because,
1. I never watch the special features on DVDs in the first place, due to my extremely large collection. I would rather view another DVD that I've have not seen.
2. I don't waste money buying the same DVD that I already have, regardless of what's been added to the newer edition.
For me personally, I would not do it because,
1. I never watch the special features on DVDs in the first place, due to my extremely large collection. I would rather view another DVD that I've have not seen.
2. I don't waste money buying the same DVD that I already have, regardless of what's been added to the newer edition.
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as stated earlier, its not that we can't switch the audio to our tv "to make it mono" we want the original track because all of the sound effects got changed for the 5.1 remix.
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Originally Posted by SINGLE104
I can't understand why anybody would want to re-purchase a DVD just for a few more extra features, and such. to me, it a waste of money. I would use that money to buy a new DVD, I don't already have, not for the same title.
Blah blah blah...bullshit bullshit bullshit.
Blah blah blah...bullshit bullshit bullshit.
Get outta here if you don't want to buy it
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But you are defeating the purpose of having a home theater, if you want to still listen to an audio soundtrack in mono. Of coarse the audio is going to be different because it's being remastered in stereo.
The same sound effects are there in the stereo sound, from the mono soundtrack, but they are split into the left, and right channel, with the same technique that's being used to remastered the old mono record albums, into stereo CDs, which sounds magnificent, with no audio information being lost.
To me personally, it's just psychological issue. And for those who own high end 6.1 home theaters like myself, or state of the art, and you want to still listen to a mono soundtrack on your sound system? I don't understand that theory at all.
Play the DD 5.1 or DTS, and receive the full benefit from your home theater.
Just for the record, if the movie: Jaws was re-release theatrically for a limited or time, do you think that Steven Spielburg would want to play the movie in it's orginal mono soundtrack in the theaters, which are all currently equipped with multi-channel digital sound? I don't think so. He would want the best digitla audio presentation for his movie as possible.
The same sound effects are there in the stereo sound, from the mono soundtrack, but they are split into the left, and right channel, with the same technique that's being used to remastered the old mono record albums, into stereo CDs, which sounds magnificent, with no audio information being lost.
To me personally, it's just psychological issue. And for those who own high end 6.1 home theaters like myself, or state of the art, and you want to still listen to a mono soundtrack on your sound system? I don't understand that theory at all.
Play the DD 5.1 or DTS, and receive the full benefit from your home theater.
Just for the record, if the movie: Jaws was re-release theatrically for a limited or time, do you think that Steven Spielburg would want to play the movie in it's orginal mono soundtrack in the theaters, which are all currently equipped with multi-channel digital sound? I don't think so. He would want the best digitla audio presentation for his movie as possible.
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A DIFFERENT EFFFECTS TRACK WAS CREATED FOR THIS MIX. IT'S NOT JUST A DIFFERENT MIX.
THIS HORSE HAS BEEN BEATEN TO DEATH. Go read some other threads about it.
I have a "state of the art" 7.1 system and I want the original mono mix. Period.
THIS HORSE HAS BEEN BEATEN TO DEATH. Go read some other threads about it.
I have a "state of the art" 7.1 system and I want the original mono mix. Period.
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Originally Posted by SINGLE104
But you are defeating the purpose of having a home theater, if you want to still listen to an audio soundtrack in mono.
The same sound effects are there in the stereo sound, from the mono soundtrack, but they are split into the left, and right channel, with the same technique that's being used to remastered the old mono record albums, into stereo CDs, which sounds magnificent, with no audio information being lost.
That you know nothing about the sound in Jaws is no surprise. A few days ago, you claimed that any film released prior to 1992 was recorded in Dolby Stereo. I think the forum should closely consider the source when digesting your comments on sound technology and history.
To me personally, it's just psychological issue. And for those who own high end 6.1 home theaters like myself, or state of the art, and you want to still listen to a mono soundtrack on your sound system? I don't understand that theory at all.
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DJTOELL, you think your Mr. Know it All, and always right. And I detect that your the kind who thinks they're never wrong. But i've got news for you. Your making yourself seem like an complete idiot, because I have just as much a right to post my opinions on this site just as YOU, and anyone else for that matter, and can careless if you like agree with my me or not. YOU are not God, and you are not strictly the creator of this website, as you seems to be.a And FYI I know that Jaws was a different remix, and I find it to be extremely petty to gripe about an audio for an 1975 movie. SO THERE! READ IT AND WEEP.
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Originally Posted by SINGLE104
And for those who own high end 6.1 home theaters like myself, or state of the art, and you want to still listen to a mono soundtrack on your sound system? I don't understand that theory at all.
I have a 'high end 6.1 home theater'. But I don't need a movie like Citizen Kane or Jaws to have sounds buzzing all around the room. They were recorded in mono, and they sound great in mono.
And the Jaws situation is fairly unique (as has been discussed to death in this thread and others). They COMPLETELY re-recorded all of the sound effects. Things that have sounded a certain way for 25+ years now sound completely different. Going back and re-recording sound effects just to take advantage of 'high end' systems is not something that I can really get behind. Frankly, the original theatrical mono sounds better. Even if it isn't blasting from every speaker in the room.
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Originally Posted by bboisvert
Well, then we're even... because I don't understand your theory at all.
I have a 'high end 6.1 home theater'. But I don't need a movie like Citizen Kane or Jaws to have sounds buzzing all around the room. They were recorded in mono, and they sound great in mono.
And the Jaws situation is fairly unique (as has been discussed to death in this thread and others). They COMPLETELY re-recorded all of the sound effects. Things that have sounded a certain way for 25+ years now sound completely different. Going back and re-recording sound effects just to take advantage of 'high end' systems is not something that I can really get behind. Frankly, the original theatrical mono sounds better. Even if it isn't blasting from every speaker in the room.
I have a 'high end 6.1 home theater'. But I don't need a movie like Citizen Kane or Jaws to have sounds buzzing all around the room. They were recorded in mono, and they sound great in mono.
And the Jaws situation is fairly unique (as has been discussed to death in this thread and others). They COMPLETELY re-recorded all of the sound effects. Things that have sounded a certain way for 25+ years now sound completely different. Going back and re-recording sound effects just to take advantage of 'high end' systems is not something that I can really get behind. Frankly, the original theatrical mono sounds better. Even if it isn't blasting from every speaker in the room.
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Originally Posted by SINGLE104
DJTOELL, you think your Mr. Know it All, and always right. And I detect that your the kind who thinks they're never wrong. But i've got news for you. Your making yourself seem like an complete idiot, because I have just as much a right to post my opinions on this site just as YOU, and anyone else for that matter, and can careless if you like agree with my me or not. YOU are not God, and you are not strictly the creator of this website, as you seems to be.a And FYI I know that Jaws was a different remix, and I find it to be extremely petty to gripe about an audio for an 1975 movie. SO THERE! READ IT AND WEEP.
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Originally Posted by SINGLE104
DJTOELL, you think your Mr. Know it All, and always right. And I detect that your the kind who thinks they're never wrong. But i've got news for you. Your making yourself seem like an complete idiot, because I have just as much a right to post my opinions on this site just as YOU, and anyone else for that matter, and can careless if you like agree with my me or not.
YOU are not God, and you are not strictly the creator of this website, as you seems to be.a And FYI I know that Jaws was a different remix, and I find it to be extremely petty to gripe about an audio for an 1975 movie.
SO THERE! READ IT AND WEEP.
DJ
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I don't have all day to read over the thread, so I'll jsut ask. I don't own any version of this movie. Is this the best one or should I go with the DTS one?
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I don't have all day to read over the thread, so I'll jsut ask. I don't own any version of this movie. Is this the best one or should I go with the DTS one?
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Originally Posted by SINGLE104
I can't understand why anybody would want to re-purchase a DVD just for a few more extra features, and such. to me, it a waste of money. I would use that money to buy a new DVD, I don't already have, not for the same title. And for the mono soundtrack is concern, can you just switch the audio on your TV,or receiver from stereo to mono to listen to the soundtrack in mono? You shouldn't need to re-purchase a DVD to have the original mono soundtrack. Just a suggestion... It's your money.
For me personally, I would not do it because,
1. I never watch the special features on DVDs in the first place, due to my extremely large collection. I would rather view another DVD that I've have not seen.
2. I don't waste money buying the same DVD that I already have, regardless of what's been added to the newer edition.
For me personally, I would not do it because,
1. I never watch the special features on DVDs in the first place, due to my extremely large collection. I would rather view another DVD that I've have not seen.
2. I don't waste money buying the same DVD that I already have, regardless of what's been added to the newer edition.
You don't have to understand it, you simply have to accept that other members are intersted in this topic and have the right to discuss it without having to endure threadcraps. As such, I ask that you remove yourself from this discussion.
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Originally Posted by djtoell
Pending the verification of the announced specs and assuming that the expected high levels of quality are present, the new version will be the one to have. I would wait until reviews come out, just to be sure, though.
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good stuff. thanks