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Shroud 12-05-04 11:05 PM

I have collected most of the Superbits and I think the higher bitrate helps on a large screen.
I have a projector with 100" 16x9 screen and can see differences in the quality of the superbit vs. non-superbit dvds.
I also use a HTPC with a DX9 video card and run the sound digitally out via SPDIFF into my Harman Kardon Receiver into my B&W speakers and dual SVS subs.
The end result is how much do you have spent on your equipment and how serious are you into your movies. If i had a 32" TV with an Apex DVD player, I wouldn't see any difference either.

Admiral7 12-06-04 10:26 AM

I have only a few Superbit titles, but I'm VERY happy with all of them.

Das Boot
Heavy Metal
Lawrence of Arabia
Spider-Man 2

There is a noticeable difference on all of them, and in some cases they are dramatically noticeable, especially with Lawrence of Arabia and yes, even Heavy Metal.

Get Me Coffee 12-06-04 10:34 AM

To me it's not worth it...marginal differences on most...not all. I would rather wait to double dip when HD DVD/ BLU-Ray (sp?) hits the market.

steebo777 12-06-04 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by Admiral7
I have only a few Superbit titles, but I'm VERY happy with all of them.

Das Boot
Heavy Metal
Lawrence of Arabia
Spider-Man 2

There is a noticeable difference on all of them, and in some cases they are dramatically noticeable, especially with Lawrence of Arabia and yes, even Heavy Metal.

And what about The Fifth Element? That is the best SB in terms of noticable difference IMO, although LoA comes really close due to the color correcting issues.

TylerDurden_73 12-06-04 02:52 PM

I like Superbits...Gotta catch them all!!!!!!!!!111

BizRodian 12-06-04 08:55 PM

There are plenty of movies out there that look just as nice and sound just as nice as superbits. They also normally have a second disc full of extras as well... and they're often cheaper!

That's my problem with them.

Defiant1 12-06-04 09:50 PM

I agree. How do Superbits compare to LOTR: EE (any of them), Master & Commander SE, Se7en Platinum Ed., Pearl Harbor Vista, and so on.

QuiGonJosh 12-07-04 04:17 AM


I agree. How do Superbits compare to LOTR: EE (any of them), Master & Commander SE, Se7en Platinum Ed., Pearl Harbor Vista, and so on.
Depends on the Superbit, 5th Element or Starship Troopers for example I think are just has good as the LOTR EE's and M&C. Others, are not.

Superbits are not the end all be all of reference DVD quality. Theres plenty that look or sound just as good and better in a lot of cases.

abintra 12-07-04 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by fumanstan
I think that's a bit of an oversimplification. If the methodology of Superbits hold true as far as using the entire, or most of the disc's space for audio and video, (which isn't always the case) it also means that certain features could never be included, like audio commentaries. In that case, you get a trade off between features and presentation, and different people will value those differently and it would be hard pressed to call one inferior over the other.

The part that offends me is that the studio releases a movie encoded to, atleast in theory, offer the best a/v quality DVD offers with nothing else and charges you a good deal more for the privilege.

I'm all for making profits but, to me, this is a tad bit absurd. When they release just the movie supposedly offering the best quality DVD can offer, you pay extra, When they load up with "extras" for every marginal title with frivolous commentaries, "featurettes" that belong as talk show filler, you pay extra. When they re-release and admit this release they did it right, you pay extra.

The bootleggers and companies like this inhabit both sides of the problem with fair market value and mutual respect for artist's rights, studios profits, and consumers rights begging for the system to self correct.

Edit: For those interested in The Fifth Element SB. Consider holding off on the purchase for another month when the 'Ultimate Edition' is to be released on the chance it will rival the a/v quality and offer those interested some extras.

RockStrongo 12-07-04 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by abintra
Edit: For those interested in The Fifth Element SB. Consider holding off on the purchase for another month when the 'Ultimate Edition' is to be released on the chance it will rival the a/v quality and offer those interested some extras.

I wonder if we will see more SB turning into new updated ultimate editions soon.

Already...

Fifth Element
Leon

Gizmo 12-24-04 03:16 PM

The only superbit I own is Underworld because I also own the Extended cut to, so all the special feautures are on that DVD as well.

zombiezilla 12-24-04 06:41 PM

The only superbit I own is Charlie's Angels, because that's the only one available now. It also had all the features of the regular edition, or I'd have eBayed to get the regular one. I wanted the special features; a DVD is already good enough for me, thanks, without adding "superbit".....I'll take extras over superbit anyday.

ruk 12-24-04 07:47 PM

in a word "yes"...

eau 12-25-04 03:35 AM

Yes if you have a high-end system.

NotoriousDRE 12-26-04 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
The only superbit I own is Underworld because I also own the Extended cut to, so all the special feautures are on that DVD as well.

I recently picked up Underworld in SB ,I have the original and extended as well.The DTS on SB was better than the DD for this one. I compared the SB and original Black Hawk Down, personally, DD sounded better.I wanna pick up Resident Evil in SB to compare DTS vs. DD,for my ears this is one of my favorite DD tracks,but i'm a DTS nut so I need to know.

My favorite Superbit titles so far....
1) Starship Troopers
2) Bad Boys II

radiospots 12-26-04 08:28 PM

HI...I do have a HDTV panasonic 36" set and a dvd progressive scan dvd player with the faroudja chip (High quality processor). I decided to answer my own curiousity regarding this issue of whether Superbit really is a big or non detectable difference. I wanted to know if I could sincerely justify spending the extra bucks myself. So I happen to have both editions of hollowman, A superbit edition and the regular DVD of it. In my test...I ran them to the exact chapter and page when they were in the transforamation lab and were doing a close up Kevin Bacons face and then froze an went frame by frame flipping back and forth from one DVD to the other...what I saw as far as digital...the complexion of the skin was a huge difference. In the regular DVD, the skin was kind of muddy and could not see the pores in those sequences etc., In the superbit DVD, the skin was not muddy but very clear and I could see skin texture and pores....really quite amazing. To me, it was quite clear that the Superbit was far superior if you really looked closely, but I am sure watching superbit and not having something at the second to compare it to..it is something we take for granted. I really don't need to go into the superiority of the DTS sound, because that is a given, but for those who were not quite sure about the picture..well, if you wanted to take a guys opinion who spent that silly time to actually find out, here you go. I heartily recommend Superbit and I now prefer to buy Superbit if the choice is there in buying a DVD that I want for my personal library.


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