Seinfeld - Widescreen Version??
 

This may be a stupid question. But I don't want to make a mistake before purchasing the Seinfeld volumes.

Does Seinfeld (Seasons 1, 2 & 3) come in the Anamorphic widescreen version. I was able to spot only the Foolscreen version at stores. Is this the only version? Thanks.

Re: Seinfeld - Widescreen Version??
 

its a tv show made in the early to mid 90's what do you think?

its fulllscreen

"when i use to work at blockbuster, people would always ask why are theyre black bars at the top and bottom of the dvd's, they complaned they couldnt see the "whole" movie

i really hate widescreen racists"


I suppose the opposite is to hate "widescreen snobs" who insist on owning the widescreen version of a TV show that was originally done in fullscreen. LOL!

wait, i wasnt the one asking the question. i was answering. i like films that are in oar, widescreen, fullscreen it dosnt matter as long as its what the director wanted me to see

just a reminder . . . there ARE no stupid questions . . . only stupid people. LOL!

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This might be the most unwarranted application of the term "foolscreen" in history.

Good lord, this place cracks me up sometimes. :lol:

*sigh*

I feel robbed when when I get pillar-boxing while watching HD broadcasts - why aren't all HD broadcasts done in 16:9? ... AS THEY SHOULD BE - this has to be the slowest advancement of adoption of technology going

eough with 4:3 already

True HD programming is 16:9. The 4:3 pillarboxed programs you're seeing are upconverted standard-def content. Not everything aired on an HD channel is actually HD.

Yet another shining example where one person could have easily answered his/her question with "This is TV/FullScreen Only" without having to resort to being a typical jackass.

if you look, that is what i said

Bob Winesipper don't like the black bars on the sides of his widescreen TV.

silly questions lead to silly answers. I think the whole mentality of WS is always better is silly. OAR is indeed the way to go. If, by chance, it ends up that FS is the OAR, then you really can't argue with that.

4x3 is the only version. No widescreen. There is only 1 option. No decision to be made for screen size.

It's only foolscreen if it wasn't filmed or originally aired that way.

Exactly. The only important thing is OAR. It was bad enough that we had to deal with a large percentage of the public thinking that fullscreen was best because they want their TV screen filled. Now, we have a problem with people that think that 1.85:1 widescreen is best because they want their HDTV screen filled. It never ends! :lol: Neither one is "best", it depends on the original aspect ratio of the source material!

I gotta admit I harbor a secret love for 185:1 for just that reason :)

185:1, holy crap you must have one skinny TV. Pics? -wink-

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Well ER debuted in 94 and they planned ahead and filmed it in widescreen.

But I agree that this is a silly thread.

There is a reason to think this; for several seasons, the end credits included the phrase "Filmed in Panavision", not with Panavision equipment, but IN Panavision. Anybody know why the credits phrased it that way?

They shoot the show on film and it is converted to video for broadcast.

Tons of films have this mistaken credit.

DJ

i like to think there are no stupid questions, only inquisitive idiots ;)

If it was actually filmed in Panavision the show would have an aspect ratio of 2.35:1, not 1.85:1.

Not really. It all depends on what lenses they used. Panavision doesn't automatically equal 2.35:1. Also, a lot of 2.35:1 movies are actually shot in 1.85:1 and soft matted to 2.35:1.

The phrase "Filmed in Panavision" is meant to connote a 2.35:1 production using the company's anamorphic lenses. Their standard spherical or Super35 packages are supposed to be designated with the phrase "Filmed with Panavision Cameras and Lenses".

The Seinfeld credit is just an error. It happens to a lot of movies as well.

ER was not shot in widescreen, the DVDs were cropped to fit a widescreen tv. The reason they did this was because the creators said the show was shot "widescreen safe"

With all of the TV shows coming to DVD in their 4:3 OAR, I get paranoid about pillar boxing screen burn so I find myself zooming the picture to fill the 16:9 screen sometimes. Some shows are widescreen safe, some aren't -- Seinfeld, for example, seems to go right to the top of the screen a lot because when zoomed, you can cut off half of a person's head!

Just a random thought: I have noticed that porn is usually widescreen safe. :D

It's not a stupid question at all. Looking at how all the interviews are done widescreen, I'm certain when the show comes out in the HD DVD format, in the near future, we can probably expect the show to either be cropped to look like it was originally shot widescreen, or it'll have annoying bars on the sides, which ARE annoying compared to letterboxing, for the simple reason that a TV show that was shot full screen should be shown full screen. More reason for TV show fans of shows from 1990s and before not to have anything positive to say about HD DVD.

"or it'll have annoying bars on the sides, which ARE annoying compared to letterboxing"

The same mentality of the foolscreen folks. The original aspect is 4X3. All I can say is, don't watch the bars, watch the show.

What you're saying is crazy. A movie doesn't have black bars when you watch it in a theater, thus making it "full screen". But watching it with black bars is the right way ... on television. See, "full screen" depends on the dimensions of the screen, so it's a misnomer in the current times because some people have the old 1.33 dimensions, some the new 1.85 (or 1.78, I think) dimensions.

What you said above, when filtered through what you meant, is "the simple reason that a TV show that was shot 1.33 should be shown 1.85", which is senseless.

That said, I agree with you that it's likely to be remastered for 1.85 TVs in the next release, but that's all the more reason to get this current proper release.

Sorry, bars that weren't meant to be seen will detract from the enjoyment of the show. The only problem I have with HDTV is the fact that we are pushed the widescreen format. In other words, if we could get HDTV sharpness (1,000+ horizontal lines of resolution) and still have 4:3 aspect ratio, I would love the format, simply because I am a TV show fan (old TV, pre-90s(Except for Seinfeld)and not really a movie fan), and strongly believe that a TV show that was produced 4:3 should be seen 4:3. Considering HDTV means a smaller overall picture (sorry but seeing something widecreen isn't worth losing all the picture area 4:3 offers me), I would still take regular horizontal letterbox on a 4:3 set over vertical letterbox on widescreen sets. Sorry, but if you enjoy TV shows, that's the facts, we shouldn't be forced to see vertical bars, when the originals aired fullscreen ;)