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Romerojpg 11-19-04 04:41 PM

RIDDICK Directors Cut is Cut!
 
Right as strange as that seems I have just finished watching the Directors cut and suddenly is dawned on me! certain parts I saw in the cinema were not in this version! little bits here and there I do remember seeing in the cinema version just aint in this Directors cut in any way.

and then I started watching the pathetic extras (really a crap dvd! why did they bother) and in among the crap extras is a special effects doc and in there is a sequence cut from the Directors cut, its the one where they have to close the shutters on Crematorium as the Inferno approaches.

So apart from that evidence, what else was cut from the Theatrical version of the film and is missing from the Directors cut?

as I dont like them cutting scenes from films and surley they are going to do another dvd in a year or so as this one is crap! nice picture and sound, but apart from that not much else :(

I couldnt find any talk of this in any other thread, but sure someone will tell me if its been talked about :)

Numanoid 11-19-04 04:47 PM

There is nothing in the name "Director's Cut" that implies that it will only entail ADDED footage. I've seen Director's Cuts which were actually shorter than the theatrical version.

Mr. Salty 11-19-04 04:51 PM

What Numanoid said.

"Director's Cut" means just what it says: It's the director's intended version of the film, not "Every Frame of Film We Shot."

Romerojpg 11-19-04 04:52 PM

Yes I know that, but I didnt know they had cut anything :)

now I want to find out how much was cut? if thats possable, as I am sure someone will know and will have compared both as thats what come people do :)

I could always buy the theatrical cut as well :) or just go for the super Japanese dvd with both cuts and DTS :)

ProKaZZ 11-19-04 05:26 PM

Thank You for seeing the missing scenes too....I thought I was just imagining things. I can clearly recall a different scene on the ship bound for crematoria where Riddick says something about how he could break free from the restraints but will just go along for the ride to his destination.

ShagMan 11-19-04 06:28 PM

well for one, the circumstances leading to Riddick laying on the runway are different. Think about it. Duh! :)

outer-edge 11-19-04 06:31 PM

I haven't watched my disc yet, but what do people think of the DC compared to the TC, especially with altered/cut/added scenes?

Ianscloset 11-19-04 07:51 PM

outer-edge,
I saw the film in theaters (I thought it was the perfect summer movie, entertaining all the way through) and i just watched the DC last night, and between the 2, I prefer the DC because it really made the story (or to me anyways) more intersting and it added a new little storyline to the movie as well.
Thats my two cents anyways,
Ianscloset

cross 11-19-04 09:02 PM

My friend and I are trying to figure out if all Furions have night vision or is it just Riddick (who apparently got it somewhere but lied about how it was done)

Does anyone have any info about this?

Artman 11-19-04 09:22 PM

I really don't remember the theatrical well enough for a detailed comparison. But the DC seems to flesh out a little more of the story, and the fight scenes have a little extra 'oomph' to them - Riddick pulls a nice little Gladiator move on a Necro's head.

Rypro 525 11-19-04 09:51 PM

also, just to let some of you know, there are some scene's that are cut from the daredevil dc as well (in particualar the sex scene)

auto 11-19-04 10:25 PM


Originally posted by Numanoid
There is nothing in the name "Director's Cut" that implies that it will only entail ADDED footage. I've seen Director's Cuts which were actually shorter than the theatrical version.
See: Blood Simple: Director's Cut - several minutes shorter than theatrical

DVD Polizei 11-19-04 10:47 PM

cross,

My sister is Furion, and I'll ask her when I see her for the holidays.

Ojam 11-19-04 10:59 PM


Originally posted by automator
See: Blood Simple: Director's Cut - several minutes shorter than theatrical
Alien DC is shorter too.

DVD Polizei 11-20-04 01:10 AM

Alien 3? Aliens? Alien Resurrection? :)

jaeufraser 11-20-04 01:20 AM

Lots of little things were cut. Vin's line in the beginning (stupid line as he tosses some guy out of that ship).

The last shot of the movie from the theatrical cut is gone, replaced by just Vin on the throne saying "you keep what you kill". I'm sure there's lots of little omissions throughout.

As said, DC don't mean everything there. Blade Runner deleted the entire voiceover. Alien DC is shorter than the original. So on.

Jackskeleton 11-20-04 01:44 AM

You mean they don't sweep the floor for any cut footage and tape it on to the regular film to make it longer for the sake of being longer?

QuiGonJosh 11-20-04 03:58 AM


Originally posted by Artman
I really don't remember the theatrical well enough for a detailed comparison. But the DC seems to flesh out a little more of the story, and the fight scenes have a little extra 'oomph' to them - Riddick pulls a nice little Gladiator move on a Necro's head.
I think I simultaniously had a kid and an orgasm when Riddick pulled that move! :D

Man that was sweet, worthy of someone posting a screenshot of it! Anyone? Please!

Romerojpg 11-20-04 07:36 AM

You lot have me now and I may also get the theatrical cut as I miss some of the scenes, and I wonder if that means the listed amount of footage put back in the film is wrong as they cut some to make way for it?

also the way the new footage was insterted at times was distracting, I am not sure I have seen a film jump before footage was added into a film before, at least they tacked on that beginning intro to explain it or I would have thought my dvd was buggered.

Tyler_Durden 11-20-04 11:04 AM


Originally posted by QuiGonJosh
I think I simultaniously had a kid and an orgasm when Riddick pulled that move! :D

Man that was sweet, worthy of someone posting a screenshot of it! Anyone? Please!

At what point in the film does this occur?

Bluebomber 11-20-04 11:34 AM


Originally posted by cross
My friend and I are trying to figure out if all Furions have night vision or is it just Riddick (who apparently got it somewhere but lied about how it was done)

Does anyone have any info about this?

If you've played the xbox game Escape for Butcher Bay it is shown Riddick wasn't lying about the crazy witch doctor shining his eyes. Kyra just had bad luck.

VicVegaMRBLOND 11-20-04 11:38 AM

EYE-SHINE
 

Originally posted by cross
My friend and I are trying to figure out if all Furions have night vision or is it just Riddick (who apparently got it somewhere but lied about how it was done)

Does anyone have any info about this?

Ok In Pitch Black Riddick explaines how when he was sent to a slam were you can't see daylight you dig up a doctor and pay him 30 menthol cools to get your eyes shined ... Also if you Play Esacpe from Butcher Bay there is a point in the game where this happens .. So No I don't think all Furions have night vision Just Riddick And Think about it if they all did have eyeshine then why arnt the furion girl from the DC's eyes shined or the purifyers eyes ...
Is anyone else pissed off that Kyra gets killed ... Oh well I guess if they make Riddick 3 he can goto the underverse and get her back or shite

Josh Z 11-20-04 12:46 PM

Re: EYE-SHINE
 

Originally posted by VicVegaMRBLOND
Is anyone else pissed off that Kyra gets killed ... Oh well I guess if they make Riddick 3 he can goto the underverse and get her back or shite
All of Riddick's girlfriends get killed. Did you not see Pitch Black?

Romerojpg 11-20-04 02:00 PM

He wasnt boinking them, its mainly all the ladies who cross his path die, he is probibly a Virgin anyway unless he was Lucky in prisons. Does he seem the ladies type to you :)

Duder 11-20-04 08:38 PM


Originally posted by Romerojpg
also the way the new footage was insterted at times was distracting, I am not sure I have seen a film jump before footage was added into a film before, at least they tacked on that beginning intro to explain it or I would have thought my dvd was buggered.
I'd like to know more about this. I've heard it alluded to, but I don't understand exactly what the problem is. I also fail to understand why this would be the case anyway--hell, when the Alien movies discs use seamless branching to do just that, and to present two different cuts of the movies on one disc. Add to that the fact that CoR is a very new movie, so all the footage should be in pristine shape, and I simply don't understand why there would be any sort of a side effect to the addition of the extra scenes for CoR. To do so intentionally makes me go :hscratch:

NotoriousDRE 11-20-04 09:30 PM

I noticed it once, but the rest of the movie flowed pretty good. Maybe i'll watch it again.

Snowmaker 11-20-04 09:50 PM

Well, its not called The Director's Additions, is it? :D

Romerojpg 11-21-04 07:06 AM

I was also at a loss why the film skipped a frame pretty much everytime the new footage begun and ended, its brand new! they say they used CGI morphing to stop it being too distracting! the picture should never jump like in Riddick and I think they may have done it on purpose as theres no film I have ever seen it happen like that in before, what did thay do try to destroy the film! why?

it just makes no sense I counted at least 15 jumps in the film and there maybe was more, either way it does kind of take you out the film for a second as I thought my dvd player was acting up again.

harosa 11-21-04 07:07 AM

In Escape from Butcher Bay it is shown that he gets his eyes from the girl in the visions, they never say or imply that he gets them from the witch doctor guy, all he is getting is his arm stitched up when the vision appears and the next scene has him recovering from getting the shine but its never made clear the doctor gave it to him, because he sounds as suprised as him. I'm glad they reinserted him using his energy blast that was seen in the trailer, funny enough its in the game which is a prequel, kind of a continuity error it seems. They could have removed the stupid, empath/cell phone conversation between Newton and her man, just seemed to repeat obvious info. I do see that they removed the shot at the end of the movie of the energy ball coming back down from the sky, more to obviously show the planet was spared in the end and they removed what sounded like an ominous voice over from Dench's character that seemed to imply her race had some other plans running. I do agree with everyone that this should have either had some branching involved or both versions of the film in the same package.

Romerojpg 11-21-04 09:07 AM

Hey frm the sound of it theres soo much taken out its more than I thought! I thought I was imagining it at 1st, but after reading other people small observations I am quite angry :( and now I will sell my R1 dvd and get the Japanese dvd with both versions of the film as I want it sll and I miss them bits I saw in the cinema, if it was a crap film I wouldnt care, but I really like the film so its gonna get bought again.


Fingers crossed in the future a special edition comes along! and puts some effort into the actual dvd! such a Big film deserves far better dvd effort than the dvds they have brought out, they should be embarresed!

harosa 11-21-04 09:51 AM

Im on the fence also, if it was just added scenes to the fights, which it does have and increases the grittiness, I would have been happy but the scenes cut in some instances were much better than what was inserted, increasing the Newton/Urban scenes was a dumb move as their intentions were clearly stated in the original cut and didnt need expanding, especially since everyone seems to be in agreement that the acting from these two wasnt up to par with the others.
Just checked some DVD sites for Japan, for what it costs, and thats not including shipping, it'd be like $20 cheaper just to buy the regular version on top of buying the DC , and the Japanese has both movies on 2 seperate discs anyway, so it'd be like the same thing.

buckee1 11-21-04 10:23 AM

I was just about to order the Japanese 2 disc set but came to the same conclusion you did. I'll just go and pick up the R1 Theatrical cut and save$20.

Romerojpg 11-21-04 11:12 AM

ahhh but the Japanese dvds have DTS if people are into that :)

I cannot tell much difference, but sure many can on there very expensive equipment :)

harosa 11-21-04 04:32 PM

True on the DTS, not an issue with me for now, hopefully one day it will be. As for some complaints on the extras, at first I was in disagreement because there are 2 commentaries, one being a trivia track but its there nonetheless and to me a commentary is usually the main incentive if its a movie i love but the rest of the extras are trivial but I did get the Best Buy bonus disc and that seems to have everything that the main disc should have had, at least 3 very good Making Ofs and an interactive Production Diary.

jiggawhat 11-21-04 05:06 PM

Guess I am returning this.

Mike Lowrey 11-21-04 06:05 PM

Re: EYE-SHINE
 

Originally posted by VicVegaMRBLOND
Is anyone else pissed off that Kyra gets killed ... Oh well I guess if they make Riddick 3 he can goto the underverse and get her back or shite
I don't specifically know about that, but according the DVDTalk's link to the Chronicles of Vin Diesal, Vin Diesal says that there might or will be two additional Chronicles movies, making four total for the whole Riddick saga. C2 would be about the Underverse, and then C3 would see Riddick going back to Furia.

nemein 11-21-04 10:30 PM


The last shot of the movie from the theatrical cut is gone
So what was the final shot? In the commentary they mention it was cut but they didn't say what was cut...

harosa 11-22-04 07:01 AM

The final shot is the energy ball that was released to purge the planet coming back down to the base, sparing the planet and an ominous voice over by Dench that seems to imply there is something else going to happen. I didnt stay all the way through the DVD credits until recently and saw that they reveal a bronze statue of Riddick on his throne right before the final credits roll, nice touch.

nemein 11-22-04 07:15 AM

Gotcha... I was wondering what happened to that (the planet killer energy ball).

Romerojpg 11-22-04 11:14 AM


but I did get the Best Buy bonus disc and that seems to have everything that the main disc should have had, at least 3 very good Making Ofs and an interactive Production Diary
Bugger :( it sounds better than the actual dvd, the commentary on the dvd is ok, but the rest are appauling and pointless :( I want a beefy making of documentary :( even Pitch Black had better extras then Riddick does.


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