ST First Contact CE - 3/15
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Originally posted by Altimus Prime
And YES, I will also BUY a new CE/SE of Insurrection. I like that movie.
And YES, I will also BUY a new CE/SE of Insurrection. I like that movie.
The others are fun enough, too, I suppose. I'll grab all of the CEs. As long as it isn't Voyager or Enterprise, I'm pretty much a ST whore.
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I liked Insurrection better than First Contact.
I didn't like the schizophrenic feel of First Contact - Dark, moody, extremely serious up on the Enterprise, but tongue in cheek humorous down on Earth. And they destroyed the characterization of Zefram Cochran from TOS and came up with a completely different character with the same name. Hell, with the way they wrote the character in First Contact it stretched credibility to think that he even bothered to build the first warp drive - it even stretched credibility to think that that guy could even come up with the idea and design a warp drive!
First Contact was OK, but I thought Insurrection was much better because the characterization was better handled.
I'm not sure if I'll double dip on any more Trek movies. I might get Insurrection, but I don't think I'll get the CE/SE of First Contact.
I didn't like the schizophrenic feel of First Contact - Dark, moody, extremely serious up on the Enterprise, but tongue in cheek humorous down on Earth. And they destroyed the characterization of Zefram Cochran from TOS and came up with a completely different character with the same name. Hell, with the way they wrote the character in First Contact it stretched credibility to think that he even bothered to build the first warp drive - it even stretched credibility to think that that guy could even come up with the idea and design a warp drive!
First Contact was OK, but I thought Insurrection was much better because the characterization was better handled.
I'm not sure if I'll double dip on any more Trek movies. I might get Insurrection, but I don't think I'll get the CE/SE of First Contact.
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I like Insurrection quite a lot -- it's definitely better than Generations. First Contact is the best of the TNG Trek films of course, but Insurrection to me captured the tone of the tv series best, the relationships between the crew members, etc. It may be "slower" but I dig it.
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Originally posted by Rammsteinfan
Nemesis is gonna have to have alot on it for me to Double Dip... maybe the so called 2 1/2 hour or longer cut of the film?
Nemesis is gonna have to have alot on it for me to Double Dip... maybe the so called 2 1/2 hour or longer cut of the film?
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Im sure it must exist in some form. The director said the finished product was like 2 1/2 hours before they trimmed it down. *shrug* I would like to see it available at some point or at least all those deleted scenes included since the standard version doesnt have that much.
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I didnt look this up before but here at IMDB http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0253754/alternateversions they show that 50 mins was cut out. It lists alot of the scenes that are stated as FULLY PRODUCED but CUT... so thats hopefuly if they were to include it. You hear us Paramount??
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Originally posted by Rammsteinfan
I didnt look this up before but here at IMDB http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0253754/alternateversions they show that 50 mins was cut out. It lists alot of the scenes that are stated as FULLY PRODUCED but CUT... so thats hopefuly if they were to include it. You hear us Paramount??
I didnt look this up before but here at IMDB http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0253754/alternateversions they show that 50 mins was cut out. It lists alot of the scenes that are stated as FULLY PRODUCED but CUT... so thats hopefuly if they were to include it. You hear us Paramount??
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You do know that they'll release it then realize they added something on the back of the box that isn't on the DVD then recall it for a month...
Good news anyway
Good news anyway
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Originally posted by The Monkees
You do know that they'll release it then realize they added something on the back of the box that isn't on the DVD then recall it for a month...
Good news anyway
You do know that they'll release it then realize they added something on the back of the box that isn't on the DVD then recall it for a month...
Good news anyway
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I'm getting all of the remaining 3 CEs, since I don't have any of the original releases. I held off on the initial Nemesis because it wasn't the CE when they were already in the middle of the CE releases.
I'm hoping that the CE of Nemesis will be a DE like I and II were.
I'm hoping that the CE of Nemesis will be a DE like I and II were.
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It's a little sad that this will be my last ever Star Trek DVD purchase. Only a super-duper SE of Nemesis would get me to buy that again.
Here's hoping for a DTS track. And hopefully, Paramount won't mess with the video transfer like they did with Generations SE.
Here's hoping for a DTS track. And hopefully, Paramount won't mess with the video transfer like they did with Generations SE.
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I've bought all seven of the previous Star Trek Special Editions, and I'm looking forward to First Contact, so there's really no way I can avoid buying Insurrection. I don't really hate Insurrection, it just wasn't that exciting. Nemesis was the same, although if they release a 2-Discer, I'd buy that too. I'd really like to have that extended version though, I'd buy that one ever faster.
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Originally posted by Defiant1
And hopefully, Paramount won't mess with the video transfer like they did with Generations SE.
And hopefully, Paramount won't mess with the video transfer like they did with Generations SE.
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Ok, I'll bite, what's wrong with the Generations SE video transfer?
Ok, I'll bite, what's wrong with the Generations SE video transfer?
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I would love to see the "alternate" ending edited back in to Nemesis. I thought it was a much better ending than what was used in the theatrical version.
I'd buy the CE for Nemesis if they did that (and added other previously cut footage), but it it's the same theatrical version I won't even consider it.
I'd buy the CE for Nemesis if they did that (and added other previously cut footage), but it it's the same theatrical version I won't even consider it.
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I am definitely getting this CE. I have been holding off on upgrading since Paramount started with the CE's, because I have a widescreen VHS of First Contact which is still in decent shape (just watched it last week). It will be nice to have the superior picture quality and all the extra goodies.
I'll also get Insurrection when it comes out...I am among those who enjoyed that film. Even if it was a glorified episode, it had one of the strongest social messages of any Trek film. For me it reminded me of one of America's past sins, the forced relocation of the Cherokee Indians during the 19th century.
I'll also get Insurrection when it comes out...I am among those who enjoyed that film. Even if it was a glorified episode, it had one of the strongest social messages of any Trek film. For me it reminded me of one of America's past sins, the forced relocation of the Cherokee Indians during the 19th century.
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