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Falc04 11-10-04 12:52 PM


Originally posted by BeckysBoy
How were the jokes more mature? There were more pop culture references to be sure, but most of them were extremely dated (or soon will be). I'm just asking, because I feel like I saw a completely different movie than the rest of you.
I agree that the 1st was superior to the 2nd, but the 2nd was still good.

After all, there was no way of topping Lord Farquaad (John Lithgow) as a great, laughable villain.

mxv 11-10-04 01:14 PM

I liked the first one and enjoyed the second one even more. I only saw the first one on DVD, the second one I saw at the theatre and after seeing it, I was instantly looking forward to owning it on DVD.

OldBoy 11-10-04 01:26 PM

S2's DVD sales beat "Star Wars"?

Green Jello 11-10-04 01:31 PM


Originally posted by scott1598
S2's DVD sales beat "Star Wars"?
And you find that hard to believe?

Joe Molotov 11-10-04 01:34 PM


Originally posted by needamazing
I hate everything Shrek. I watched the first one and barely enjoyed it. I have not watched the 2nd one and I don't think I will.

I find the way they try to undermine Disney to be juvenile and I despise them for it. I have always been a huge Disney fan so that has gotten me to hate Shrek. I own over 1100 DVDs but I will never own a Shrek DVD.

They release the DVD on the same day that The Incredibles opens up!! Are you kidding me!!! Someone has an axe to grind. I cannot believe their tactics.

I didn't even think that movie was that good.
Yeah, it sounds like you do. :lol:

tonyc3742 11-10-04 01:48 PM

Competition. No law that says they have to release it on the third Tuesday of the month. And they are to an extent different markets, those who are planning to see a movie this weekend, and those who are planning to--or might on impulse--buy a DVD.
While I'm not secondguessing the numbers, I wish they would get away from counting the 'gross' at the box office. How many tickets were sold? Ticket prices range from 5 bucks to 12 bucks, so the gross could be skewed by a lot of viewers in an expensive theatre, or things like that. Tickets sold would be a more accurate and universal measurement.

Green Jello 11-10-04 01:51 PM


Originally posted by dtcarson
I wish they would get away from counting the 'gross' at the box office. How many tickets were sold? Ticket prices range from 5 bucks to 12 bucks, so the gross could be skewed by a lot of viewers in an expensive theatre, or things like that. Tickets sold would be a more accurate and universal measurement.
While I do agree with you that it would be nice, box office figure don't exist for people like us to discuss or for the media to claim records with. They exist as a measure of accounting for the movie's production company to know how much money they made. Comparing records and indexing the figures to compare with old films like Gone With The Wind, does little for the botoom line, which is business.

majorjoe23 11-10-04 02:34 PM


Originally posted by scott1598
S2's DVD sales beat "Star Wars"?
Shrek 2 costs $15, Star Wars costs $45, of course Shrek 2 will move more units. Star Wars and sets like Indiana Jones sold well, but they can't touch cheap 1-2 disc releases.

BeckysBoy 11-10-04 03:03 PM


Originally posted by Space_Monkey
Agreed. This really soured my opinion of Dreamworks. If they keep up this trend they will annoy me more than Miramax's continued attempts to buy the Best Picture Oscar.

I will always like Pixar's films better because they are more timeless. As long as Dreamworks continues to mire their films with excessive pop culture references they will fail to win me over the way Pixar has.

That said, I still enjoy Dreamworks animated films for what they are and don't understand why they feel they can't coexist with Pixar...

I am a Disney fan as well, but I could care less if DreamWorks rips on them. Lord knows Disney is ripe for parody.

I simply don't think DreamWorks' attempts at jibes are as clever as everyone else seems to.

BassDude 11-10-04 03:11 PM


Originally posted by matome
:rolleyes: Well apparently Dreamworks is doing something right with the Friday releases since they did the same thing with <i>Shrek</i> when <i>Monsters Inc.</i> opened and now they have the #1 and #2 sales records. Maybe it's just good marketing, huh?
I'd guess more folks are paid on Fridays then Tuesdays. I wonder if this was a factor, and if Fridays would be better days for DVD releases.

matome 11-10-04 04:04 PM

Well, there definitely is a reasoning for Tuesday as the release day. I read it somewhere (probably on DVDtalk) and I'll see if I can dig it up.

RichardW 11-10-04 05:29 PM

They could've made more money if the Shrek: The Story So Far box set was available in widescreen.

Big Worms 11-10-04 05:32 PM


Originally posted by RichardW
They could've made more money if the Shrek: The Story So Far box set was available in widescreen.
Totally agree. I know I would have bought it.

Kakkarat 11-10-04 05:55 PM


Originally posted by Big Worms
Totally agree. I know I would have bought it.
Same here. Would have sold off or given away Shrek 1 from the set (already have the 2 disc).
But since they decided to screw us over on the box set, I'm going to put off buying Shrek 2. Probably get it used or something.

TheKing 11-10-04 06:45 PM


Originally posted by matome
Well, there definitely is a reasoning for Tuesday as the release day. I read it somewhere (probably on DVDtalk) and I'll see if I can dig it up.
It's simple, Having the release day on Tuesday helps to drum up traffic in stores on days when their traffic would normally be very low. Put new releases in there on Friday, and Best Buy would be a ghost town on weekdays.

For the studios, Tuesday's are good because then they aren't competing against the movie release day of Friday. Having both on the same day would hurt the box office, hence why Shrek 2 was released the same day as The Incredibles.

freshticles 11-10-04 07:00 PM

"I defy you to find anyone who wasn't aware that the release date for Shrek 2,"

Of course..they probably spent every bit of money they made from the box office on advertising shrek two in every dirtbag walmart across the nation...i couldn't walk two feet without bumping into a giant shrek cardboard cutout....

MyDixieWrecked 11-10-04 10:03 PM

What was the ghostbuster reference? I dont know how I missed it.

fumanstan 11-10-04 10:51 PM


Originally posted by MyDixieWrecked
What was the ghostbuster reference? I dont know how I missed it.
The giant gingerbread man is sort of an homage to the Stay Puft Marshmallow man.

Dabaomb 11-11-04 03:51 AM


Originally posted by Cornelius1047
1.1 million. Try math. :p

While I liked the sequel just fine, I'm actually in the minority on this one, in thinking the first was better.

K

I'm with you on this one. I thought that the first one had a better story. The second one had more pop culture references and most importantly Puss N' Boots :up:

Qui Gon Jim 11-11-04 08:12 AM


Originally posted by TheKing
It's simple, Having the release day on Tuesday helps to drum up traffic in stores on days when their traffic would normally be very low. Put new releases in there on Friday, and Best Buy would be a ghost town on weekdays.

For the studios, Tuesday's are good because then they aren't competing against the movie release day of Friday. Having both on the same day would hurt the box office, hence why Shrek 2 was released the same day as The Incredibles.

Correct, and that is why I view this Friday release as a shot against Pixar. Dreamworks is not even a patch on Pixar's ass and it will be a true crime if Shrek 2 takes the oscar over The Incredibles which is the most enjoyable film I have seen this year.

Shrek is ok fun, but it is defintely aimed at the J6P crowd where the humor is obvious and the casting and references will date themselves within years. Shrek, Shark's Tale and Shrek 2 will be well loved for the next 4 or 5 years, but Monsters, INC, Finding Nemo and The Incredibles will be timeless in the spirit of Walt's classic animated films like Snow White and Bambi.

Joe Molotov 11-11-04 08:48 AM


Originally posted by Qui Gon Jim
Shrek is ok fun, but it is defintely aimed at the J6P crowd where the humor is obvious and the casting and references will date themselves within years. Shrek, Shark's Tale and Shrek 2 will be well loved for the next 4 or 5 years...
I'm sure people said the same thing about Spaceballs and Airplane. :D

BeckysBoy 11-11-04 10:04 AM


Originally posted by Qui Gon Jim
Correct, and that is why I view this Friday release as a shot against Pixar. Dreamworks is not even a patch on Pixar's ass and it will be a true crime if Shrek 2 takes the oscar over The Incredibles which is the most enjoyable film I have seen this year.
Shrek 2 will be nominated if for no other reason than the amount of money it made (Oscar loves a moneymaker). But it will never win.


Shrek is ok fun, but it is defintely aimed at the J6P crowd where the humor is obvious and the casting and references will date themselves within years. Shrek, Shark's Tale and Shrek 2 will be well loved for the next 4 or 5 years, but Monsters, INC, Finding Nemo and The Incredibles will be timeless in the spirit of Walt's classic animated films like Snow White and Bambi.
Amen to that. DreamWorks casts Eddie Murphy. Pixar casts Sarah Vowell from "This American Life." I seriously doubt most Shrek 2 fans have ever heard of Sarah or TAL, but it's a perfect illustration of Pixar's genuine coolness vs. DreamWorks' sad attempts.

ianholm 11-11-04 10:14 AM

Yeah, I know. Who the hell has ever heard of Tom Hanks, Tim Allen or Billy Crystal? :rolleyes:

needamazing 11-11-04 10:54 AM


Correct, and that is why I view this Friday release as a shot against Pixar. Dreamworks is not even a patch on Pixar's ass and it will be a true crime if Shrek 2 takes the oscar over The Incredibles which is the most enjoyable film I have seen this year.

Shrek is ok fun, but it is defintely aimed at the J6P crowd where the humor is obvious and the casting and references will date themselves within years. Shrek, Shark's Tale and Shrek 2 will be well loved for the next 4 or 5 years, but Monsters, INC, Finding Nemo and The Incredibles will be timeless in the spirit of Walt's classic animated films like Snow White and Bambi.
Totally agree. Shrek is J6P material all the way. I guess that is why I can't stand it.

OldBoy 11-11-04 12:51 PM

J6P?


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