One & Only Thread About Star Wars Trilogy Picture Quality (merged)
09-16-04, 05:17 PM
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Well if you have a video settings control on your player, you can change that to a lighter setting. For example, my Pioneer DV-434 has three video settings. Cinematic which makes the video pretty dark. Standard which lightens it up a bit. And Animated which supposedly ups the contrast on the colors a bit.
I always use the cinematic setting, but if I feel that these transfers are a bit too dark, I'll set it to standard.
I always use the cinematic setting, but if I feel that these transfers are a bit too dark, I'll set it to standard.
09-16-04, 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by Jackskeleton
The old tapes you've watched and the old transfers brought up the brightness of the film. This new transfer has crisper blacks if you ask me. That is how you get good whites.
It doesn't have the white wash on it.
The old tapes you've watched and the old transfers brought up the brightness of the film. This new transfer has crisper blacks if you ask me. That is how you get good whites.
It doesn't have the white wash on it.
09-16-04, 05:54 PM
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Perhaps you should stop comparing it to other movies and you should start comparing it to the other transfers of this exact same film that are out there. then you will notice why it is that way.
09-16-04, 05:59 PM
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I think the "darkness" can be attributed to the restoration process. Instead of seeing the washed out, faded look, which always look light and bright, we're seeing a fully remastered and restored transfer that makes blacks look black and whites look white as opposed to a bunch of "grays".
09-16-04, 06:23 PM
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There are 6 Star Wars threads on the front page. Couldn't you have fit this into ONE of them?
There are 6 Star Wars threads on the front page. Couldn't you have fit this into ONE of them?
Yeah I know, bad take on the Vader speech from Empire.
09-16-04, 06:54 PM
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Update your TV. CRTs are still the kings of black level IMO. Try the Sony KD-34XBR960. Plasma panels have only average black level and still can't replicate the deep blacks that tubes can. And LCD have rather below-average black level and low response time.
09-16-04, 08:28 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by slop101
[B]How am I bragging?
And what the hell am I bragging about?
And yes, the whites are very nice - but there's plenty of detail that is lost to extra darkness -
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Damn Racist!!!
[B]How am I bragging?
And what the hell am I bragging about?
And yes, the whites are very nice - but there's plenty of detail that is lost to extra darkness -
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Damn Racist!!!
09-16-04, 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by Jackskeleton
The old tapes you've watched and the old transfers brought up the brightness of the film. This new transfer has crisper blacks if you ask me. That is how you get good whites. It doesn't have the white wash on it.
as for bragging.. Seems like you are asking a question that 90% of the readers here can't answer simply because you asked it to early. Asking this again on tuesday on release day would bring in a whole lot more folks who could actually answer your question.
The old tapes you've watched and the old transfers brought up the brightness of the film. This new transfer has crisper blacks if you ask me. That is how you get good whites.
It doesn't have the white wash on it.as for bragging.. Seems like you are asking a question that 90% of the readers here can't answer simply because you asked it to early. Asking this again on tuesday on release day would bring in a whole lot more folks who could actually answer your question.
09-16-04, 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by slop101
How am I bragging?
And what the hell am I bragging about?
And yes, the whites are very nice - but there's plenty of detail that is lost to extra darkness - the asteroid chase in ESB is good example of this.
How am I bragging?
And what the hell am I bragging about?
And yes, the whites are very nice - but there's plenty of detail that is lost to extra darkness - the asteroid chase in ESB is good example of this.
09-17-04, 12:54 AM
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perhaps the discussion of quality should be saved for when the majority of folks can actually view it. Either that or you might aswell complain about quality to a wall. You'll get the same response.
09-17-04, 10:03 AM
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These are from the digital bits
the first image is from the laser disc, and the second from the new dvds - they look the same from these screen-shots, but look at the black borders and notice how the image from the dvd had to be brightened (The Bits obviously brightened it themselves) to look the same as the old one.
the first image is from the laser disc, and the second from the new dvds - they look the same from these screen-shots, but look at the black borders and notice how the image from the dvd had to be brightened (The Bits obviously brightened it themselves) to look the same as the old one.
09-17-04, 10:47 AM
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Here are a couple more shots:
Here's a shot from the '97 "special editon":
and the same shot from the new dvd:
The next two shots are both from the dvd, but the second one is just brightened up a little more than it's "supposed" to be:
"as-is"
"brightened"
Like I said, it's not that major, but it's still there.
Here's a shot from the '97 "special editon":
and the same shot from the new dvd:
The next two shots are both from the dvd, but the second one is just brightened up a little more than it's "supposed" to be:
"as-is"
"brightened"
Like I said, it's not that major, but it's still there.
09-17-04, 02:39 PM
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I remember being surprised at how dark the Empire SE was when I went to see it in the theater. At the time, I figured it was just a projector problem.
I've seen brightened DVD stills like the ones above at a couple of sites to make the lightsabers look better.
I've seen brightened DVD stills like the ones above at a couple of sites to make the lightsabers look better.
09-17-04, 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by Mike Lowrey
I think the "darkness" can be attributed to the restoration process. Instead of seeing the washed out, faded look, which always look light and bright, we're seeing a fully remastered and restored transfer that makes blacks look black and whites look white as opposed to a bunch of "grays".
I think the "darkness" can be attributed to the restoration process. Instead of seeing the washed out, faded look, which always look light and bright, we're seeing a fully remastered and restored transfer that makes blacks look black and whites look white as opposed to a bunch of "grays".
09-17-04, 03:16 PM
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I can't speak for the DVDs, but when the THX editions of the movies were released on laserdisc, Lucas had the contrast levels pulled down to disguise the matte lines around ships in the space scenes.
09-17-04, 04:49 PM
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I can't speak for the DVDs, but when the THX editions of the movies were released on laserdisc, Lucas had the contrast levels pulled down to disguise the matte lines around ships in the space scenes.
I can't speak for the DVDs, but when the THX editions of the movies were released on laserdisc, Lucas had the contrast levels pulled down to disguise the matte lines around ships in the space scenes.
09-17-04, 05:24 PM
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Oh yeah. That reminds me of the blob near the Emperor's eye. Early DVD reports conflicted. Some said it was gone. Some said it was still there. I guess instead of fixing it with CG, they just made the whole thing really dark & harder to spot...
Oh yeah. That reminds me of the blob near the Emperor's eye. Early DVD reports conflicted. Some said it was gone. Some said it was still there. I guess instead of fixing it with CG, they just made the whole thing really dark & harder to spot...
09-17-04, 06:36 PM
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Actually, the first thing I'd fix is to UNDO the latest 3 Star Wars flix. Man, thank gawd for these original three. Now if we can just find an easter egg that unlocks the 3 movies in their ORIGINAL form, I'll be happy.
Well...maybe not truly happy, but happier.
Well...maybe not truly happy, but happier.