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Toad 09-13-04 04:05 PM

Commentaries on Star Wars trilogy
 
So have any of you lucky bastards listened to the commentaries yet? How are they? Anything exciting, new, etc.?




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Green Jello 09-13-04 04:16 PM

Hey Toad, I don't know about the commentaries, but I think the idea on a Star Wars forum might be a bit late. It would have been a great idea back in 1997, but after the 21st, there will be little to discuss anymore until HD-DVD releases or Ep. III.

Toad 09-13-04 04:22 PM

After the 21st we'll be discussing the DVDs - not just the speculation of when they'll come out and their rumored then confirmed technical specs.

Thanks for your information regarding the commenataries.

Kal-El 09-13-04 04:25 PM

I've only read other lucky bastards who've already listened to it. Like this one over here who got a copy of Empire early.

Green Jello 09-13-04 04:25 PM


Originally posted by Toad
Thanks for your information regarding the commenataries.
Nice attitude.

GuessWho 09-13-04 04:40 PM

George Lucas discusses how the 1997 changes brought the films closer to his vision, there is still more that could "and should" be done. He cited the example that the theme played during ANH's medal ceremony is incomplete and needs more cowbell.

ceeece 09-13-04 04:45 PM


Originally posted by GuessWho
He cited the example that the theme played during ANH's medal ceremony is incomplete and needs more cowbell.
ha ha ha!!! Great SNL reference. That's my roommate's favorite sketch

Mike Lowrey 09-13-04 07:01 PM


Originally posted by GuessWho
He cited the example that the theme played during ANH's medal ceremony is incomplete and needs more cowbell.
rotfl

Love that skit too. And I'm not that big of a SNL fan.

Bruce Dickinson (aka Christopher Walkin): "I don't know fellas, it just needs more cowbell."

calhoun07 09-13-04 11:33 PM

I already watched Empire Strikes Back with commentary and plan on watching the other two Wednesday. I find Lucas' commentaries quite entertaining. The only new stuff I really learned (and remembered) were the techinical how-to things they did in the movies.

new2theplace 09-13-04 11:41 PM


Originally posted by GuessWho
George Lucas discusses how the 1997 changes brought the films closer to his vision, there is still more that could "and should" be done. He cited the example that the theme played during ANH's medal ceremony is incomplete and needs more cowbell.
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JoeyOhhhh 09-14-04 09:31 AM


Originally posted by GuessWho
George Lucas discusses how the 1997 changes brought the films closer to his vision, there is still more that could "and should" be done. He cited the example that the theme played during ANH's medal ceremony is incomplete and needs more cowbell.
rotfl

Toad 09-14-04 09:50 AM

I love Will Ferrell as much as the next guy, but please stop threadcrapping and move Trebeck to the "Will Ferrell Vol. 2" thread.

stinkeye 09-14-04 10:12 AM

swerving back on topic, Toad. You've probably already been here but there are several links to different site reviews that mention details on the commentaries. An excerpt from the IGN review:

Lucas acts as the big picture guy, talking on the high level, while Burtt and Muren talk more technical matters. Lucas discusses Kurosawa's The Hidden Fortress as an influence on the film, which is always nice to hear. He repeats a few things that are in the big documentary (more later) but by and large, they are all good. He does explain the replacement of Sebastian Shaw with Hayden Christiensen in RotJ, so consider it a spoiler for Episode III.

All of them mention that the commentaries are well worth listening to and full of inside information. Whether or not any of this will be "new" to you I can't say.

Toad 09-14-04 11:16 AM

Interesting that he explains the replacement.

I wonder if Carrie Fisher offers anything entertaining.

Kal-El 09-14-04 11:38 AM


Originally posted by Toad
Interesting that he explains the replacement.

I wonder if Carrie Fisher offers anything entertaining.

I hear she says something about being high during the Bespin shoots.

TylerDurden_73 09-14-04 12:01 PM

Carrie Fisher high? Say it isn't so....

Green Jello 09-14-04 12:09 PM

She looks terrible on the making of doccumentary. She is pretty heavy and has lots of trouble talking. All she talks about is how she was battling with her weight throughout the whole shoot.

Mike Lowrey 09-14-04 02:11 PM

Well, Carrie Fisher was in one of those celebrity Poker matches and she's a pretty short and dumpy gal now. The ROTJ bikini babe, she not anymore is.

Toad 09-14-04 03:11 PM

It's called aging.

I don't care how she looks - it's not a video commentary.

Green Jello 09-14-04 03:24 PM


Originally posted by Toad
It's called aging.

I don't care how she looks - it's not a video commentary.

Who said you should care about how she looks?

It's obvious she is fried. As I said earlier, she's also having trouble speaking. She was stumbling over her words and thoughts. Last time I thought about it, that might be important in an AUDIO commentary.

ckolchak 09-14-04 04:06 PM


Originally posted by Toad
It's called aging.
.

actually its called anti-depressants.

she was diagnosed with somthing like manic depression not too long ago and the meds have made her gain weight.
she was on a sunday morning talk show not too long ago talking about it.
in an industry where vanity inspires paranoid over-emphasis, i have a lot of fond respect for her not being inhibited or so hung up about her weight or appearance now, that she would be disinclined to be on camera.

Rypro 525 09-14-04 04:18 PM

didn't look all that heavy in j&sbsb which was made 2 years ago.

Green Jello 09-14-04 04:31 PM


Originally posted by Rypro 525
didn't look all that heavy in j&sbsb which was made 2 years ago.
Not to argue, but that was filmed 4 years ago.

Michael Corvin 09-14-04 04:36 PM


Originally posted by GuessWho
George Lucas discusses how the 1997 changes brought the films closer to his vision, there is still more that could "and should" be done. He cited the example that the theme played during ANH's medal ceremony is incomplete and needs more cowbell.
post of the month.

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Toad 09-14-04 06:07 PM


Originally posted by Green Jello
Who said you should care about how she looks?


I'm missing your jump in logic. I don't have a right to an opinion until someone tells me I should or shouldn't?? :lol: That's just silly!

Regarding the AUDIO vs. VIDEO, the two posts before mine said she was fat, or dumpy, or looked bad. That has to do with video. I didn't say anything about her speech, so the audio doesn't concern me. She seemed lucid and engaging enough in the documentary - her "fatness" and "dumpiness" played no part in that.

Green Jello 09-14-04 06:16 PM


Originally posted by Toad
I'm missing your jump in logic. I don't have a right to an opinion until someone tells me I should or shouldn't?? :lol: That's just silly!
It sounds like you are whining whenever someone says something you don't like. You've been coming off as an asshole ever since your first reply in this thread.

We were discussing how Carrie Fisher might be less than interesting and might even be slightly annoying in the commentary given her present state.

And just because I gave you my opinion on the Star Wars Forum that differed from yours you had to make a childish sarcastic remark.

Kal-El 09-14-04 06:26 PM


Originally posted by Green Jello
It sounds like you are whining whenever someone says something you don't like. You've been coming off as an asshole ever since your first reply in this thread.

I think he's just trying to stay on topic.

cultshock 09-14-04 06:37 PM

OK, here's a couple on topic questions:

-Are the commentary tracks scene specific?

-Does anyone know if the participants were recorded together, or separately and later edited together? (not a big fan of "patchwork" commentaries myself)

Kal-El 09-14-04 06:39 PM


Originally posted by cultshock
OK, here's a couple on topic questions:

-Are the commentary tracks scene specific?

From what I've read online, yes.


-Does anyone know if the participants were recorded together, or separately and later edited together? (not a big fan of "patchwork" commentaries myself)
Unfortunately for us, separately.

Toad 09-14-04 08:52 PM


Originally posted by Kal-El
I think he's just trying to stay on topic.
:up: Also I'm tired of people causing problems when there's no need to. I see no use in some peoples' posts and won't respond to them anymore. There's even some levels I won't sink to! ;)

I'm glad the tracks are scene-specific - I think the PT DVDs were scene-specific and it works out much better.

Sometimes it's not altogether bad if they record them separately - unless you have a big group of people, I've found them to be a bit boring sometimes. At least this way the editor got to choose from 4-5 people talking about the same scene and pick what was best; when 4-5 are together, only one can (coherently) talk at the same time - so you're left with little to no choice.

Dead 09-14-04 11:37 PM


Originally posted by Green Jello
It sounds like you are whining whenever someone says something you don't like. You've been coming off as an asshole ever since your first reply in this thread.

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I would highly suggest that you refrain from addressing other members in this manner. If you don't like his posts, then report them to the moderators. If I see a comment like this again, you'll be looking at administrative action.

Dalvin 09-17-04 12:22 AM

Why is Laurence Kasdan not present during Audio Commentary for Return of the Jedi? That actually pisses me off a bit.

Kal-El 09-17-04 12:52 AM

Or on Empire actually since word has it he basically re-wrote every word Leigh Brackett did.

Terrell 09-17-04 03:30 AM


Or on Empire actually since word has it he basically re-wrote every word Leigh Brackett did.
Actually, Brackett's script was dumped entirely. Few people know this, but Lucas wrote a rough draft of the script for ESB, and it's very close to the final film. He handed it off to Kasdan and Kasdan tightened it up and polished it off.

Then again, I've never read Brackett's script. But I have read Lucas' draft and Kasdan's final script. But according to Lucas, Kasdan, and others involved with the film, Brackett's script was not used.

Toad 09-17-04 09:41 AM

I thought Kasdan was on the Empire track. :(

bboisvert 09-17-04 09:50 AM


Originally posted by Terrell
Actually, Brackett's script was dumped entirely.
Yes, this is discussed in a few of the books (the Annotated Screenplay book, and others I believe). Actually, if I'm remembering it correctly, it wasn't even a completed script. More of a story treatment.

They didn't use it, but gave her screen credit anyway. Both as a tribute to her work and to avoid any potential legal issues.

Mazje 09-17-04 12:36 PM

So spoil away. What's the explanation for the switch in Jedi?

Toad 09-17-04 02:17 PM

:up:

nodeerforamonth 09-17-04 02:27 PM


Originally posted by darthlurker
So spoil away. What's the explanation for the switch in Jedi?
Please use spoiler tags!

I come into this thread to read about the SW trilogy DVDs not meanings behind the stories or spoilers for Episode III or the new SW editions.

GuessWho 09-17-04 03:22 PM


Originally posted by darthlurker
So spoil away. What's the explanation for the switch in Jedi?
Try a search for the thread about changes. A link to an audio file of this segment of the commentary was posted weeks ago.


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