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Johnny Zhivago 08-13-04 09:56 AM

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Originally posted by moocher
No way they release Matrix 1 separately. Many will buy the set just for the remaster.
And many won't... No individual release = no sale. It's that simple. So, if WB wants to rake in some more green (and you know that they do), a stand alone release of The Matrix is needed. Otherwise, like I say, this consumer won't be shelling out a nickel for the box and the execs at WB will be quite mistaken. And do you really think a studio will pass on the opportunity to re-release a DVD for the masses? That the new remaster will be a box set only release? That doesn't make much sense, financially.

Michael Corvin 08-13-04 11:49 AM

well, some of those that are on the fence that just want the first movie may pick it up. They will make more money off of them. Then a year down the road, the may break the set and make even more on the other half that didn't get the box. They will just have to wait.

I for one will pick up the box.

Josh Z 08-13-04 01:55 PM

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Originally posted by Mike Lowrey
Because quite frankly, having the original in a snapper and the other two in 2-disc keep cases is not very attractive in the shelf.
Too bad dvdcoverart.com got taken down. They had a number of nice Matrix keepcase covers there.

moocher 08-13-04 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by Johnny Zhivago
And many won't... No individual release = no sale. It's that simple. So, if WB wants to rake in some more green (and you know that they do), a stand alone release of The Matrix is needed. Otherwise, like I say, this consumer won't be shelling out a nickel for the box and the execs at WB will be quite mistaken. And do you really think a studio will pass on the opportunity to re-release a DVD for the masses? That the new remaster will be a box set only release? That doesn't make much sense, financially.
Actually, I think they will follow the model that many have used in the past. That is - release the box set and state that the disks will not be released individually (or remain silent on the issue). Wait a year for everyone to jump on the box, then release the movie disks individually once sales of the box subside. In any case, they will probably only release the movies individually (not the other disks).

IOW, I should have said no way will they release the remaster initially and you may be in for a wait.

Edit: Sorry, Michael Corvin, I just read your post. Mine says basically the same thing as yours...

Johnny Zhivago 08-13-04 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by moocher
Actually, I think they will follow the model that many have used in the past. That is - release the box set and state that the disks will not be released individually (or remain silent on the issue). Wait a year for everyone to jump on the box, then release the movie disks individually once sales of the box subside. In any case, they will probably only release the movies individually (not the other disks).

IOW, I should have said no way will they release the remaster initially and you may be in for a wait.

Edit: Sorry, Michael Corvin, I just read your post. Mine says basically the same thing as yours...

You (both) might be right about that... If so, no biggie, I'll gladly wait. :)

clckworang 08-13-04 03:52 PM

Am I the only one who thinks that this is overkill? How many people were really clamoring for that much extra content for the last two Matrix movies? I would consider buying the first movie again if it were available separately, but to be honest, those last two movies kind of made think a little less about the first one. (I know that really isn't fair to the first movie, but that's how I feel.)

Rypro 525 08-13-04 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by clckworang
Am I the only one who thinks that this is overkill? How many people were really clamoring for that much extra content for the last two Matrix movies? I would consider buying the first movie again if it were available separately, but to be honest, those last two movies kind of made think a little less about the first one. (I know that really isn't fair to the first movie, but that's how I feel.)
well, everyone bitched that they were going to wait for hte big box set,and now that the big box set has come out, people are still complaining.

fumanstan 08-13-04 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by clckworang
Am I the only one who thinks that this is overkill? How many people were really clamoring for that much extra content for the last two Matrix movies? I would consider buying the first movie again if it were available separately, but to be honest, those last two movies kind of made think a little less about the first one. (I know that really isn't fair to the first movie, but that's how I feel.)
While your opinion is certainly shared by many others, the Matrix movies still have quite a following and there are many out there (myself included) that enjoyed the trilogy and hold it in high regard.

The easiest thing to do is compare it to the Alien Quadrilogy. 9 discs... and many questioned whether that was worth buying since they didn't like the last 2 movies while the first 2 were classics. The Matrix is similar, and coming out at an extremely good price as well. I wouldn't call it overkill for this particular series... i mean if they came out with a 20 disc Police Academy Box Set then maybe :)

Rubix 08-13-04 05:47 PM

i don't think it matters if it is necessary or not because i am sure most of the video footage for these extras were filmed during the actually filming of the film and before, in preparation. therefore they had no idea how successful the movies would or would not be. so why not release already shot footage?

Mike Lowrey 08-13-04 08:51 PM

I don't care what any of you say. I'm getting it and there's nothing you can do to stop me! Muhahahaha!

JuryDuty 08-14-04 12:19 AM

Before seeing the final info on this, I was planning to get the ultimate set without question. Now I'm pretty torn on this one. Here's the way I see it:

Pros:
- New Matrix transfer
- Great price
- More extensive bonus material

Cons:
- Hate the cheap packaging
- Already own half the discs
- Haven't even watched all the bonus material I currently have LOL

So basically, is it worth it to go through the trouble of selling my current set to pay for the new one? I'll be getting more stuff and a better transfer of The Matrix, but man, I'm gonna hate that packaging, and all the extra stuff doesn't really matter much at this point...

Masamune 08-14-04 12:23 AM

I'm kinda glad there is no extended version for RELOADED.

I liked that movie a lot, but hated REVOLUTIONS...

Since 1 and 2 rocked, I'll end up getting the set.

Squirrel God 08-14-04 12:25 AM

I read that none of the extras on the existing releases will be included in the boxset, so looks like I'll be hanging on to my existing copies and buying the boxset! -eek-

Mike Lowrey 08-14-04 12:36 AM

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articl...ixultimate.jpg

I'm not getting what those spines are made of. Are these keepcases, slim-packs, or what? I hope the final packaging is different than this.

fumanstan 08-14-04 12:54 AM

My guess is that they're digipaks of different sizes. Anyway, i'd wait to judge the packaging... i hope the cardboard is sturdy like the LOTR EE's rather then the Alien Quad flimsy box.

AnonomusBob15 08-14-04 12:57 AM

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Originally posted by Mike Lowrey
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articl...ixultimate.jpg

I'm not getting what those spines are made of. Are these keepcases, slim-packs, or what? I hope the final packaging is different than this.


Check out the Godfather Collection packaging. I fear it will be very similar with digipack casing and with the slipcase being the actual trilogy box.

Josh-da-man 08-14-04 11:43 AM

Yeah, it looks exactly like the Godfather box.

I get so ****ing tired of these expensive boxed sets being put in the cheapest, flimsiest packaging available. And it's almost every damned studio that pulls this shit... Paramout with The Godfather/TNG, Fox with Alien Legacy/Buffy/X-Files, WB with Babylon 5/Matrix, New Line with LOTR Extended Cuts.

Even with meticulous care, these cardboard packages are subject to wear and tear just from sliding them in and out of the slipcases and unfolding them. Before long, they're going to get scuffed up and worn.

What the hell is wrong with KEEPCASES?

Masamune 08-14-04 11:54 AM

I was gonna say as well it looks exactly like the GODFATHER box, which I guess is a good thing. Those digipacks aren't exactly strong tho.

theneobez 08-14-04 12:03 PM

Am I the only one pissed about the "recolored" thing for the original Matrix? I wanted them to give it a better transfer, but if it alters the film like that for continuity purposes, then I'm fine with the release I have.

Mike Lowrey 08-14-04 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by AnonomusBob15
Check out the Godfather Collection packaging. I fear it will be very similar with digipack casing and with the slipcase being the actual trilogy box.
Then what's with the thinner looking digipak for Reloaded? Isn't that supposed to be a 2-disc set as well? With Reloaded Revisisted?

Mike Lowrey 08-18-04 08:27 PM

New details about this release from DVDAnswers as follows:

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Further details have begun to emerge on the new Matrix Collection which will be arriving in shops from the 7th December. It will be available in two editions. The first of these will be a standard (if you can call ten discs standard!) edition including the three films along with The Animatrix and six-discs of bonus material. This will retail at around $79.92. The second will be a collector's giftset containing the ten-disc edition along with a Neo minibust and an 80-page book with never-before-seen artwork and storyboards. The retail price for this one will be around $129.92
So another $50 for a bust and a booklet? No thanks. Standard edition for me.

Artman 08-18-04 10:01 PM

All well, $60 (retail sales) for a ten-disc set is still pretty good. Still looking forward to it, although it may have to go on the wishlist for Santa...

Michael Corvin 08-18-04 10:07 PM

ouch. that is a big jump in price. I will have to think about that one. I really like the packaging.

eau 08-18-04 11:48 PM

Nice. The ultimate super dooper standard edition is good enough for me.

TomOpus 08-19-04 12:20 AM

I'm hoping the giftbox doesn't sell well so the price will drop like other giftboxes recently :D

I like the minibust and I can afford it.... but, man, that price seems high.

beefjerky 08-19-04 01:27 AM

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Originally posted by theneobez
Am I the only one pissed about the "recolored" thing for the original Matrix? I wanted them to give it a better transfer, but if it alters the film like that for continuity purposes, then I'm fine with the release I have.
I'm sure it's just a bit of color correction to help some of the washed out scenes. The film already has a green and blue tint.

QuiGonJosh 08-19-04 04:41 AM

damn...$130 is a lot...mmm...guess I'll just have to see how my funds are doing at that point...but I gotta feelin I'll probably just go with the reg. 10 Disc Set

DVD Josh 08-19-04 06:17 AM

Amazon will probably be $75-80 for the gift set, maybe less after STL, so really, it won't be that bad.

DVD Polizei 08-19-04 06:57 AM

$130...rotfl

fryinpan1 08-19-04 08:17 AM

I'll be getting the standard edition.

Skyler 08-19-04 08:28 AM

Matrix SE ONLY for me. I'm sure they will eventually release it seperate.

Loc Nar 08-19-04 08:46 AM

If I can pick up the standard set for $40 at Costco, like I did with the Alien Quad, I doubt I'll be able to lay off this. Otherwise, I'll pass.

I have Matrix plus Animatrix and could pick up a used Matrix Revisited for a song if I really wanted it. I'm in that camp that is only interested in the Matrix Remaster. Watching Reloaded and Revolutions with the critics commentary would be the only way I would be able to sit through those movies again, and that would be a one shot deal, better suited for a NetFlix rental. So, if Costco fails me, I'll wait for the inevitable Matrix Remaster individual release. Hopefully it won't take as long as it did for the standalone Godfather to appear following the Godfather Collection debut.

Rypro 525 08-19-04 10:02 AM

i sure hope the sound is remixed on reloaded and revolutions.

iggystar 08-19-04 10:24 AM

Hmmm, it's tempting. But I'd only be willing to pick up the standard set if I can get it around $50.00 or so.

fumanstan 08-19-04 12:21 PM

Damn, a bit more expensive then i had hoped for, but i'll probably still buy the set. Not sure if i want the gift set with the bust yet, but hopefully we'll see some great deals when release time gets closer.

jiggawhat 08-19-04 12:41 PM

I for one am gonna wait til the reviews come out for this before I go ahead and purchase. I already have all three movies, animatrix, and revisited. It seems kind of a waste to go and repurchase if there is nothing really new. I was really hoping for some extended fight scenes or something, but we get nothing.

MasterCXtreme 08-19-04 02:08 PM

The box looks great to me! I'm not sure if I'll buy it yet. I may just stick with the original.

metalhead212 08-19-04 10:19 PM

I can not WAIT!! I have been holding out for this set since i knew they were going to make a sequals. I was only hoping for the three movies with directors commentary, but this is amazing.

Dead Star 08-19-04 10:52 PM

according to davisdvd, the movies will have intros by the brothers, so theyll do some talking....

and the names of the 3 critics on the commentary are Todd McCarthy, John Powers and David Thomson

http://www.davisdvd.com/news/announcements.html

trigun 08-19-04 11:09 PM

http://dvdmedia.ign.com/dvd/image/ma...1092961822.jpg


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