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steebo777 03-10-04 07:04 AM


Originally posted by aam1
From TheDigitalBits Rumor Mill

Here's a bit of info from industry sources that's likely to get the undies of some fans all in a bunch. Word is that George Lucas' THX-1138, which is currently being prepared for DVD release later in 2004 by Lucasfilm and Warner Bros, is going to feature more than 100 new visual effects shots. Look for digitally-enhanced skylines and other additions and alterations.

Uhg, I hope this doesn't end up like the Star Wars SE fiasco :(

Numes 03-15-04 12:29 PM

From DavisDVD.com Rumor Mill wayyyy back on 2/18/04:

"As you may well be aware, Warner Home Video will release a special edition disc of George Lucas's futuristic classic THX-1138 later in the year. Now comes word that the film has been handed an "R" rating by the Motion Picture Association of America and has also been re-titled THX - 1138: The George Lucas Director's Cut.

"Electronic Labyrinth: THX 1138 4EB," the 1967 USC student film that inspired the feature film, is already available on the Short 10: Chaos DVD series. The disc includes the film, an interview with Lucas and Francis Ford Coppola on the history of "THX" and bonus interviews with USC professors on Lucas' life as a student filmmaker."

PatrickMcCart 03-15-04 02:09 PM

If the film is changed any, it'll most likely be subtle fixes (like the kind seen on the DVD editions of the Indiana Jones films).

Only one shot in the entire film features sky, so that makes it seem like TDB.com's rumor is likely not 100% true.

Pants 03-15-04 04:39 PM

I don't buy that rumor. I'll believe it when I see it. Sounds like a practical joke.

Shroud 03-15-04 07:14 PM

I'm only buying this movie if its released in THX.

THX The Audience is Listening.

GuessWho 05-21-04 09:59 AM

posted today to starwars.com


THX 1138 on DVD and in Theaters
May 21, 2004


Before there was Star Wars, there was THX 1138.
In 1971, a visionary filmmaker named George Lucas created a chillingly prescient look at a disturbing future world as his feature film debut. Years ahead of its time, THX 1138 has since attracted a strong following, with its cutting edge visual and sound experience, and provocative and resounding messages.

"We wanted to make a different kind of film, and I hope when audiences see it today, they will find it to be as intriguing as we envisioned," says Lucas. The film stars Robert Duvall, and is produced by Francis Ford Coppola and his revolutionary American Zoetrope studios.

This fall, this debut film will return as THX 1138: The George Lucas Director's Cut. It will come to theaters as a special limited engagement, and then to DVD.

On September 14, Warner Home Video and American Zoetrope will make available The George Lucas Director's Cut DVD release. The Two-Disc Collector's Set features the film meticulously restored and a second disc filled with new and classic bonus material. For Star Wars fans, it's the perfect prelude to the Star Wars Trilogy DVD set due out on September 21.

Preceding the DVD release, on September 10, a 20-city theatrical release of the film is planned, including Ann Arbor, MI; Austin, TX; Boston, MA; Chicago, IL; Los Angeles, CA; Minneapolis, MN; New York, NY; Philadelphia, PA; San Francisco, CA: Seattle, WA; Portland, OR, and others.

The DVD includes the hour-long documentary, A Legacy of Filmmakers: The Early Years of American Zoetrope. It examines the independent film movement of the 1970s -- the world in which THX 1138 was born. It features new interviews with Lucas, Murch, Coppola, Duvall, Martin Scorsese, John Milius, Matthew Robbins, Caleb Deschanel and others who helped build American Zoetrope. The new 30-minute documentary Artifact of the Future goes behind the scenes on the making of THX 1138.

Classic material includes the original production featurette, Bald, George Lucas' award-winning USC student film Electronic Labyrinth THX 1138 4EB, and the original theatrical trailer for the feature film.

The DVD set includes an audio commentary track by George Lucas and Co-Writer and Sound Designer Walter Murch. There is also the "Theater of Noise," an audio-only track, which explores the incredibly rich sound world provided by Murch, with branching video showing the development of the sound design.

THX 1138: The George Lucas Director's Cut is presented in widescreen format, with Dolby Digital 5.1 Sound.


Joe Molotov 05-21-04 10:26 AM

Hmmm...it calls it "The George Lucas Director's Cut" but it still doesn't specifically say what if anything has been changed.

ThatGuamGuy 05-21-04 10:47 AM


The George Lucas Director's Cut
Whose else's would it be? Did the film have other directors?

I think, if they were actually doing further changes, instead of just releasing the full restoration of Lucas's original version (which, I believe, has already been available, just never before on DVD), they'd specify it. But maybe that's just me.

aroney 05-21-04 01:01 PM

Lucas has been at it again. This is indeed a new version of the film with numerous added effects shots. Just check out this trailer:

http://www.thx1138movie.com/trailers/1/thx480dd3a.mov

Zodiac_Speaking 05-21-04 01:04 PM

Well, now that Star Wars and THX-1138 is out, only King Kong is left.

FinkPish 05-21-04 01:07 PM

"There is also the "Theater of Noise," an audio-only track, which explores the incredibly rich sound world provided by Murch, with branching video showing the development of the sound design."

This should be great. There is a terrific book called "The Conversations" that is a collection of conversations between Michael Ondaatje (the guy who wrote the English Patient) and Walter Murch, where they discuss the different ideas for sound he had for this film.

DVDTalker002 05-21-04 02:15 PM

Am I the only one that has NEVER heard of this movie in my whole entire life? It looks awsome though and looks like a combination of gattaca and equilibrium.

Joe Molotov 05-21-04 02:58 PM

Sweet boxart:

http://www.thx1138movie.com/img/boxart.jpg

I can't even find the trailer though on their damn freaky website. :(

bboisvert 05-21-04 03:00 PM


Originally posted by puddytay
Am I the only one that has NEVER heard of this movie in my whole entire life? It looks awsome though and looks like a combination of gattaca and equilibrium.
Sort of, I guess... it's in the same genre... like 1984, etc. It's a great movie, but just make sure to not go in expecting something 'action packed'.

I'm not sure what to make of these 'digital enhancements' to a film made in 1971. Unless he's added Hayden into the film, I suppose I'll reserve judgement until I actually see the changes. ;)

Bacon 05-21-04 03:58 PM


Originally posted by Joe Molotov
Sweet boxart:

http://www.thx1138movie.com/img/boxart.jpg


sorry, I disagree :yack: Another Lucas film "fixed" what a shocker :rolleyes:

Grabastic 05-21-04 06:29 PM

as long as Lucas doesn't turn the little hairy midget guys at the end into wookies, then i think i'll be okay with some revisions. hell, after 7 years of Star Wars tweaks, i'm starting to get used to it.

aroney 05-21-04 08:05 PM

It looks the added effects are environmental in nature. More people in crowd scenes, cars in the tunnel etc. One shot is a wide shot of the android assembly line. Another shows an android walking around without clothes in the background.
The additions may actually work much better in this film.

planet_jake 05-21-04 11:20 PM

Yeah, the assembly line revision is the only thing I thought looked bad... but if it helps the film, I might actually welcome these changes... although it would still be nice to have the original cut on DVD, as this is my favorite George Lucas film, and indeed one of my favorite films of alltime. I guess time will tell... anyone know when this shows in Chicago?

Dan Average 05-22-04 01:03 AM

If that is in fact the DVD cover (and I'm not sure it is, it looks more like a poster for the theatrical re-release), WOW. That by itself would make up for any minor "improvements" Lucas might make.

BizRodian 05-22-04 01:05 AM

More power to Lucas to make the films how he wants them.

A shame he doesn't include the old versions as well, because they're great for competists who are interested in the film's evolution.

Gotta love how he doesn't let anyone change his mind, and does what he wants.

planet_jake 05-22-04 04:51 AM


Originally posted by BizRodian
Gotta love how he doesn't let anyone change his mind, and does what he wants.
...no I don't...


lol

Rizor 05-22-04 08:21 AM


Originally posted by Dan Average
If that is in fact the DVD cover (and I'm not sure it is, it looks more like a poster for the theatrical re-release), WOW. That by itself would make up for any minor "improvements" Lucas might make.
It is the cover art that is shown at the official site, so I'd assume it is.

Lara Means 05-22-04 10:39 AM


Originally posted by Joe Molotov


I can't even find the trailer though on their damn freaky website.

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=365472

BizRodian 05-22-04 12:40 PM


...no I don't...
Looking at your DVDs you own, you seem to be a big fan of films made the way the director wanted, that didn't sacrifice what they wanted to please audiances. I don't see the difference, except for the fact that you (and I, BTW) find Lucas's changes to not be to our liking.

As I always say though, DVD technology allows that both versions could be avalible on one disc, but no one ever seems to do it. It's lame.

Terrell 05-22-04 07:19 PM


Gotta love how he doesn't let anyone change his mind, and does what he wants.
Thank God!!! The day Lucas starts listening to whiny, crybaby fans is the day I'll no longer view his movies.

Josh Z 05-23-04 06:38 PM

I hear he's going to digitally paint hair onto all of the characters' heads as well. And add some color to their wardrobes, which are just "too bland" for current moviegoing standards.

bboisvert 06-23-04 12:23 PM

Here's a bunch of the changes:

http://www.davisdvd.com/bin/extras3.html

ThatGuamGuy 06-23-04 12:30 PM


Looking at your DVDs you own, you seem to be a big fan of films made the way the director wanted, that didn't sacrifice what they wanted to please audiances. I don't see the difference, except for the fact that you (and I, BTW) find Lucas's changes to not be to our liking.
The difference, though, is that the films you're talking about, the directors did all that leading up to the film being released ... once it was released, the film was what the film was. (There are a few specific examples to the contrary; not looking at his list, I'm thinking of stuff like '2001' or 'The Shining', where Kubrick used the early release the way directors use test screenings. And, even in those cases, I'd *love* to see the alternate cuts. I'm really curious to check out the R2 'Shining' with the even shorter cut Kubrick made.)

In the case of Lucas, much like Chaplin, it's a totally different scenario; an artist, like any other person, changes over time. Some of them attempt to change their films as they get older so that they're still "my" films, but miss the whole idea that the film *does* represent, accurately, their point of view ... at a specific time. The phrase "cultural artifact" comes to mind.

Note that, with 'American Graffiti', it was a totally different thing. Other than digitally enhanced sunsets and whatnot, the actual major changes he made were because the studio had demanded certain minor re-edits. I'm all for re-edits in cases like that. But if the only person you're re-editing is yourself, I see no reason why one version of a director's vision could be more valid than another ones, and at least one major reason why it would be *less* valid (the longer you're away from a film, the less connected to it you'll feel, which means you're attempting to feel connected to it again by changing it, but potentially at the expense of what it originally way).

[Obviously, this whole post is phrased in more extreme language than the changes in 'THX' probably warrant. I'm just saying, there's validity in the idea that later re-edits are an annoyance.]

steebo777 06-23-04 12:56 PM


Originally posted by bboisvert
Here's a bunch of the changes:

http://www.davisdvd.com/bin/extras3.html

Great comparisons there of the two different cuts :thumbsup:

Mod-Mod-World 06-23-04 03:00 PM

Wow, excellent screen shots! I'm not sure how I feel about the atlering of the film, but it *does* look cool!
I wonder if this "adding to" will be a trend.

Mike Lowrey 06-23-04 05:10 PM


Originally posted by Joe Molotov
Sweet boxart:

http://www.thx1138movie.com/img/boxart.jpg

Really??? I disagree as well. It's too plain to me.

And people complain and bitch about the new Star Wars covers.

Now put a light saber in the bald dude's hand and you got me....

J/K!!!

pomodoro 06-23-04 07:53 PM

The cover owns!! It has a criterion feel to it. its good to finally see a cover with no stupid quotes and awards. ITs an amazing cover, fits the movie. i mean the lives of the people are bland, so is the cover.

pomodoro 06-23-04 07:56 PM

Changes like the ones done in this movie are perfectly fine, its when you add a stupind musical number that things start sucking.

Grubert 06-24-04 09:18 AM

What's next? Replacing that ne'er-do-well Bruce shark from Jaws with a nifty Deep Blue Sea CGI mako?

Oh the humanity...

Mike Lowrey 06-24-04 09:42 AM


Originally posted by pomodoro
The cover owns!! It has a criterion feel to it.
I hate Criterions. So there! ;) Give me floating heads and abnoxious banners anytime. :D

Josh Z 06-24-04 10:34 AM


Originally posted by pomodoro
The cover owns!! It has a criterion feel to it. its good to finally see a cover with no stupid quotes and awards.
I'm sure that image is just a temporary draft. They still have time to add the "FROM THE DIRECTOR OF STAR WARS!" banner and the "It's the best movie I've seen this week! - Jeff Craig, Sixty Second Preview" blurb.

aam1 06-24-04 10:46 AM

[A FIRST] Well I like the 'Big Head' cover [/A FIRST]

Lara Means 06-24-04 10:46 AM

This is the single disc dvd cover.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...1.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Grabastic 06-24-04 12:49 PM

i prefer the 2 disc cover. the single disc looks like it's trying to be Star Wars. doesn't work for this movie.

steebo777 06-24-04 01:34 PM

I didn't even know they were releasing a 1 discer. SHows how much I know. Anywho, I like both covers a lot.


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