Star Wars DVD change?
 

I made mention of this on the Dutch Coverart thread, but I think it warrants its own thread, so...

This shot taken from the DVD trailer seems changed to me. I don't recall the extensive background (especially the TIE Fighter) or the number of troopers from this shot in the '97 SE.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/Maxi...Warschange.jpg

Pretty sure this was in the SE.

Look again.

Mike -- that Tie Fighter was absolutely in the SE. And the number of troopers looks unchanged. The scene looks identical to me.

Yep looks the same to me.

I've seen DVD File's French to American trailer comparison, and I can see no differences...

Here's the guide to the 1997 SE changes:

http://www.theforce.net/swse/

This page (http://www.theforce.net/swse/anh/deathStar.html) has a small screen shot and mentions the Tie Fighter.

Are you sure?

I remember they had a different shot than from the original '77 version, with a few more troopers, but that background and all those troopers on the sides are, I swear, new.

I'd check, but I don't have a VCR hooked up and I don't know what happened to my VHS tapes anyway.

However, also finally getting the entire trailer downloaded, the sabers in the ANH duel did look enhanced.

Here's that shot:
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Maxi...arschange2.jpg

Bottom shot is from US trailer, top from French trailer. Obviously the US trailer is from the old FF version.

I certainly don't see anything radical... but can someone else confirm that the Wampa scene is different?

I'm doing a frame-by-frame and it sure looks different to me... but it's hard because the aspect ratio is different and the frames don't exactly match up.

But it seems like the background is different and so are the movements.

Well, OK, but I sure don't remember it being that extensive. I knew the shot had been changed from the original, but I sure don't remember the platform on the left and the TIE on the right.

The Wampa scene is the same. I did notice the Obi-Wan/Darth lightsabers looked better in the French Version - but that's the ONLY thing I noticed.

The two videos aren't in perfect synch - which is why you may notice a slight difference (plus the fact that one is letterboxed and one isn't).

The change noticed by Artman in the other thread:

http://www.photodump.com/direct/bboisvert/leia.jpg

The corridor has been digitally altered.

Now that looks good.

Has it? Or are we looking at two different frames? The videos are NOT in perfect synch...

Shannon -- look at that section of the video and still frame it. They aren't *perfectly* in synch, but they are within a frame or two. Just look at the smoke in the upper-right corner, which is in an identical pattern in the two shots.

The backgrounds are different. It isn't an aspect ratio thing either... the "white" end of the tunnel is gone in the French.

Looks the same to me. :confused:

Of course, if you look at the two "Leia corridor" scenes, you'll also see that her gun doesn't fire at all in the U.S. trailer. It may be that they've accidentally included some sort of pre-production shot in the U.S. trailer, without finished effects.

I'll have to dig out my LD and see what the corridor looks like there...

EDIT: I just step framed through my LD of the 1997 SE. It looks like the bottom (U.S. trailer) image. I suppose we'll have to wait until we have more than .5 second of footage for a confirmation, but this looks like a pretty definite change.

I'm all for the changes if it means it looks better.

The problem is we don't have hi-res screenshots to compare. We're always looking at lower resolution pictures. The detention block corridor has been changed, for the better as far as I'm concerned. That's a minor change that works for the better.

I hope that they finally fixed that white saber when DV is walking towards the door after killing Obi... bugged me in the SE.

Right, and that's all I ever wanted all along. I just want the OT films to look at least a little bit like they were filmed or at least processed today with digitally enhanced effects and scene extensions, much as they're doing for THX 1138. These little tweaks are always welcome IMO.

Now I know most people have a huge issue with the Greedo thing and that's understandable. As well as the Jabba's Palace musical number, but for some crazy reason, I liked the musical number, if not for the skantilly clad dancers. ;)

I hope to God they have done something with the Rancor scene. That scene needs some major cleaning up/recompositing.

The tenticle that grabs C3-PO in the dungeon hallway in Jabba's Palace as he's being lead away by the Gamorrean Guards also needs a CGI replacement. That scene always bugged me from 1983 onward.

Remember, that tie fighter in the background is exactly what Lucas wanted and always intended!

Where are you downloading it from?

Would have rather had Lucas working on the next Indiana Jones movie than editing the old Star Wars trilogy over and over...

I don't know. Something tells me the next Indy movie would have just been plain bad.

Though, many say the same of Lucas' Star Wars changes...

Does anyone else feel that changing the film years upon years after it's release is wrong?I could see for legal issues if needed and such but once a final print is made and it's done at the box office it is done.I've no problem with releasing a "better" version later but these are coming first on DVD and will the real aka theatrical versions ever be on dvd?or the next format.

well thats my worthless semi rant.dont mind me

Naaahhh.... how could we? We all love Luca$ and his practices, right?

http://images.amazon.com/media/i3d/0...trilogy-lo.asx

http://images.amazon.com/media/i3d/0...trilogy-hi.asx

I don't think that subject has ever come up before.

First time I heard of it.

;)

http://www.starwars.com/collecting/n...s20040714.html

This is the closest we've come to any kind of 'official' confirmation about changes. An 'emperor hologram' figure from ESB is being released with the new classic wave of figs. Ian's name is mentioned, and that figure and small picture on the packaging sure doesn't look like the old version!

Also of note is the phrase "The rebel that destroyed the Death Star - Luke Skywalker" I wonder if that is one of the revised lines for that scene? Interesting, and kind of exciting! Two months to go...

I know I just need to get full of myself and read myself post it which i have done and woopydee doo basel

Force.net reports that Boba Fett's voice has been changed to reflect a New Zealand-esque accent. Bobba's voice in the OT was awesome.

The madness of King George continues,

Yeah I don't like that at all. Wasn't it close enough to Temura Morrison already?

"Put Captain Solo in the cargo hold mate."

Danol?

that's not the trailer with the changes.

the french trailer is the one with the changes.

tfn will report almost anything related to Star Wars. That being said, do you really care that much? The guy had what, 5 lines in the whole trilogy? One of which was "What the.....aaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!" before plummeting to his death. (Yes, DEATH. Don't parade that EU crap that he was able to claw himself out of the Sarlacc Pit BS). That's really going to ruin the movie for you?

actually...more importantly, the little picture on the box is the same one that's been floating around the web of the new Ian in Empire.

I say -- the more changes, the better.

1. Some of them may actually turn out decent. That means that down the road I can create a "bboisvert cut"... with the best from all 3 (or whatever) versions.

2. The more he screws with these movies, the more "regular folk" are going to notice, and complain. Eventually, it's going to get to the point where people don't recognize these as the films they loved. Again, the more changes he makes... the greater the chances that the original trilogy will show up again one day.

Hell, I honestly hope he sticks Jar-Jar into one of 'em. That'll get Joe Sixpack up in arms.

Jesus christ I hope not.