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(it might just be me, but does Ozu just make the same film over and over? There's something to be said about working within your genre, but come on... - not that his films are bad or anything, just very much the same - seen one, seen 'em all.)
Yeah, many of the later films were very similar. Early Summer and An Autumn Afternoon are almost the exact same film! But most of Ozu's films are generally meditations on a theme (or themes), rather than being overly preoccupied with plot and narrative.
(I am so full of shit sometimes...)
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Originally posted by Matt Millheiser
I bet you can't wait for "Van Helsing"...
I'm sorry, you've seen all of these films then? Because I've seen Early Summer, and it's a breathtaking piece of film. Typical Ozu, true, but I'll take typical Ozu anyday over a piece of crap blockbuster du jour.
I bet you can't wait for "Van Helsing"...
I'm sorry, you've seen all of these films then? Because I've seen Early Summer, and it's a breathtaking piece of film. Typical Ozu, true, but I'll take typical Ozu anyday over a piece of crap blockbuster du jour.
As for the Monster Squad suggestion, it was a joke actually, because I remember a thread a few months ago where somebody was suggesting Monster Squad was going to be a Criterion release, which we know was a joke, so I just added it for humor sakes.
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Originally posted by animalmystic
Sorry thats just my opinion, I am entitled to my opinion right? If you like them, great, I happen to not. And since when did I mention Van Helsing? Is this a Van Helsing thread, no, I simply added my opinion on these Criterion releases, and I don't care for any of them. Most Criterions I like (Brazil, Unbearable Lightness, Traffic, Rushmore) I just don't happen to like these movies, thats all.
Sorry thats just my opinion, I am entitled to my opinion right? If you like them, great, I happen to not. And since when did I mention Van Helsing? Is this a Van Helsing thread, no, I simply added my opinion on these Criterion releases, and I don't care for any of them. Most Criterions I like (Brazil, Unbearable Lightness, Traffic, Rushmore) I just don't happen to like these movies, thats all.
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Originally posted by Matt Millheiser
And I'll ask again: have you seen Early Summer, Port of Shadows, The Golden Coach, French Cancan, and Elena and Her Men? Or are you dismissing them as "crap" out of ignorance?
And I'll ask again: have you seen Early Summer, Port of Shadows, The Golden Coach, French Cancan, and Elena and Her Men? Or are you dismissing them as "crap" out of ignorance?
But that doesn't even matter, because in today's cultural climate a lot of people (mistakenly) think that they are so well-versed in everything (especially film), that if they haven't heard of something, it sucks. Since they seem to know everything, how could it be good, if they don't know about it.
I've run into people that call themselves "movie-buffs" and then listen to them say, with a straight face, that they don't like B&W movies.
Instead of pleading ignorance, they make themselves look worse by making obviously uninformed judgments on things they know nothing about - I should know, I tend to be guilty of this myself, sometimes.
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Originally posted by slop101
I'll answer for him and say that no, he has not - how could he have, unless he went to film school?
But that doesn't even matter, because in today's cultural climate a lot of people (mistakenly) think that they are so well-versed in everything (especially film), that if they haven't heard of something, it sucks. Since they seem to know everything, how could it be good, if they don't know about it.
I've run into people that call themselves "movie-buffs" and then listen to them say, with a straight face, that they don't like B&W movies.
Instead of pleading ignorance, they make themselves look worse by making obviously uninformed judgments on things they know nothing about - I should know, I tend to be guilty of this myself, sometimes.
I'll answer for him and say that no, he has not - how could he have, unless he went to film school?
But that doesn't even matter, because in today's cultural climate a lot of people (mistakenly) think that they are so well-versed in everything (especially film), that if they haven't heard of something, it sucks. Since they seem to know everything, how could it be good, if they don't know about it.
I've run into people that call themselves "movie-buffs" and then listen to them say, with a straight face, that they don't like B&W movies.
Instead of pleading ignorance, they make themselves look worse by making obviously uninformed judgments on things they know nothing about - I should know, I tend to be guilty of this myself, sometimes.
First of all don't answer for me, I can answer for myself. Next you don't even know me, at all, so don't assume I haven't seen these movies, or went to film school, shit I could be Robert DeNiro and you wouldn't even know, because you know what, you don't know. And I didn't call myself well-versed in anything.All I did is comment that I do not like these movies.
Next I don't call myself a "movie buff". Just because some movies are b&w doesn't mean they are good.
And who cares anyways if some people don't like b&w movies, thats there perogative, and there choice and there opinion, who are you to judge? Everybody has there own opinion. If you like b&w movies great have at it. Some people don't like Star Wars, is that a crime? Some people only like 80's type moveis, is that a crime too? Who cares its peoples personal opinions.
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Originally posted by animalmystic
...who cares anyways if some people don't like b&w movies, thats there perogative, and there choice and there opinion, who are you to judge? Everybody has there own opinion...
...who cares anyways if some people don't like b&w movies, thats there perogative, and there choice and there opinion, who are you to judge? Everybody has there own opinion...
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Originally posted by slop101
I'll answer for him and say that no, he has not - how could he have, unless he went to film school?
I'll answer for him and say that no, he has not - how could he have, unless he went to film school?
But to be fair I do start film school in September.
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Originally posted by animalmystic
I simply added my opinion on these Criterion releases, and I don't care for any of them. Most Criterions I like (Brazil, Unbearable Lightness, Traffic, Rushmore) I just don't happen to like these movies, thats all.
I simply added my opinion on these Criterion releases, and I don't care for any of them. Most Criterions I like (Brazil, Unbearable Lightness, Traffic, Rushmore) I just don't happen to like these movies, thats all.
Admittedly, it is not the Armageddon/Rock/Chasing Amy list, but nonetheless, it is hardly a representative set of titles in the collection either.
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Originally posted by animalmystic
Sorry thats just my opinion, I am entitled to my opinion right? If you like them, great, I happen to not. And since when did I mention Van Helsing? Is this a Van Helsing thread, no, I simply added my opinion on these Criterion releases, and I don't care for any of them. Most Criterions I like (Brazil, Unbearable Lightness, Traffic, Rushmore) I just don't happen to like these movies, thats all.
Sorry thats just my opinion, I am entitled to my opinion right? If you like them, great, I happen to not. And since when did I mention Van Helsing? Is this a Van Helsing thread, no, I simply added my opinion on these Criterion releases, and I don't care for any of them. Most Criterions I like (Brazil, Unbearable Lightness, Traffic, Rushmore) I just don't happen to like these movies, thats all.
Now, on one hand, maybe that says that the CC needs to broaden its scope a bit. But on the other hand, and here is where I think you're offending people in this thread, Criterion has taken it upon itself to do high quality DVD releases of films that more often than not would never get released at all. So when you arrogantly proclaim that they need to release The Game and Bottle Rocket and whatever else fits your narrow conception of a good film, it offends us. One reason is because these are films that have already been released. Moreover, even without the CC, they will likely get high quality redo's in the future.
Yeah, I'd love to see The Game and Bottle Rocket in the CC. I really like both flicks (especially the latter). But for each of those mainstream flicks there are hundreds if not thousands of lesser known gems crying out for Criterion's attention. Just because you and many others like you seem to find them boring (apparently sight unseen) is no reason for Criterion to cave to your way of thinking. I think the single best thing about the CC is that it has unfolded to me a whole range of great films that I otherwise would not have gotten to see.
Don't like B&W? Don't like subtitles? Go and watch Seven Samurai and get back to me.
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