Isn't there a Paramount studio rep that posts to the DVDTalk forums? I always appreciated that he frequented this site and responded to our concerns. I remember him being very responsive and wasn't sure if anyone had tried to e-mail him on this poor treatment of the Fiday the 13th box set?

I think his name was Martin? but I don't remember. We should try contacting him to channel our concerns directly to Paramount...

Let's see, which versions of the movies have 100% uncut versions:

Part 1: all but R1

http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparison...e.php?fid=1715

Part 9: R1 SE

http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparison...e.php?fid=1718

That's it :(

This statement is wrong on so many levels.

Guess, I'm glad I held onto my uncut R4 version of the original.
I almost got rid of it, when I heard of the upcoming box set.
I figured they would definitely release the uncut print in the new box set...

It really goes to show you how studios care about giving the consumer the most uncensored version possible.

Of all 10 Friday the 13th movies, only one has been released uncut in R1 DVD, and two total are uncut on DVD. And the upcoming boxset has R rated cuts of all of them!! Birth of a Nation has had DVD releases with better attention given to it than most major movie studios give to boxets. This is yet another example.

Do you just circle the forums daily re-quoting yourself?

lol.

At least give some valid reasons why you believe 90% of the forum is wrong.

:lol:

To be fair, one is a racist movie that is regarded as the first full lenth motion picture while the other is a sexplotation slasher flick.

I love slasher movies as much as the next guy, but face it, this isn't Citizen Kane. These movies were produced on a low budget with poor help from the studio. I personally am not really surprised that they didn't preserve the deleted scene reels.

The point is folks, this is 8 movies of varying quality for $50. They may not be adding anything back into it, but at least not taking away from it. If they don't make a 3D print of #3, then I will weep. This set may not be as great as the ANOES set (which has a few of its own problems), but Paramount has never really supported F13 the same way New Line has with ANOES.

No 3-D print of Friday 3, but it would be possible to put the version on the disc for that people like me who own the IMAX equipment already.

You would have to buy equipment to view it or $100 glasses.

They use clear glasses. Most 3-D films did this. Jaws 3 is another example as are IMAX films.

Films like Freddy's Dead used red/blue glasses, but pretty much suck in 3D due to the very cheap process.

Different process all together.

Dont Look Now for 1973 isnt exactly Citizen Kane, yet Paramount still had that uncut. If fact, many people nowadays dont even know what Dont Look Know is.

I dont believe Paramount would have thrown this footage away. Their have been campaigns done and articles since 1981 about it when they were only at Part 2.

It is also one of their more successful franchises (slasher or not). The earlier movies made much more money than a lot of their other films. Much more successful than Dont Look Now.

Friday 4 gave them their highest opening weekend as a company in 1984. Not true anymore, but true in 1984.

Slasher or not, this series was pretty good financially to Paramount all through the early and mid 80s.

I doubt they would have thrown such footage away. They just probably buried it in vaults and dont want to look for it.

Money has nothing to do with it!

Paramount looks down upon the Friday the 13th Series, because it glorifies violence, apathy, and sex. Not to say that they are holier than thou, or that there are no other movies that do this, it is just simple fact. Paramount is not proud of the movies, only the money.

Friday the 13th Part 1 exists in every other region but region 1 Uncut. Region 2-4 all have DVD's of it out already.

Paramount has 35MM prints along with Warner Brothers who has them in all other regions.

Paramounts Friday 1 DVD print has a scene which is not in the VHS print (put in by pure accident). This shows right there that they keep the trims.

Still, no Part 1 uncut. No excuse for that. Cant say that footage is gone. Everyone knows it is not.

Paramount themselves said they were looking to release the series uncut (Martin Blythe of Paramount said this at HTF last year).

Paramount started all of this. No one else.

Warner Brothers is just a much better company for film restoration. They actually do it.

Thats why Friday 1 is uncut in regions 2-4.

Unfortuantely, Warners does not own 2-8 overseas. Paramount still does. If Warners did, they would all have been uncut overseas to begin with and released already.

If Paramount hates the movies so much (if they are so ashamed), they should just sell the rights from 2-8 to Warner Brothers, New Line, MGM, or Anchor Bay. Warner Brothers, New Line, and Anchor Bay all showed interest in releasing the films uncut. They just unfortunately dont own the rights.

Warner Brothers would have released all overseas uncut but dont have rights.

Anchor Bay offered to look for the uncut footage in the vaults and were turned down for whatever reason.

Like it or not, this series along with Elm Street have both earned a place in horror culture of the past. Neither of these series or characters will even be fully forgotten.

80-85% of movies that exist have not achieved this. This goes for horror and every other genre.

That's fine, but then why do the boxed set at all? And what about complaints from fans of other franchises or individual movies? The demand was for uncut films, instead they are putting out a few random commentaries and footage they filmed at the Weekend of Horror. I was there and filmed the damn pannel discussion myself for free.
There HAS to be something wrong with the information we've been given. What sort of budget was there? If not even part 1 is uncut then they probably didn't bother to look for any cut footage. How much could no-name actors get paid to do commentaries? Or get paid to talk on camera at a convention they are already attending? That's as far as the budget stretched? That's just ridiculous. The TV footage for 4 was found years ago and that version of the movie can be bought on ebay. What kind of special feature is that. Then again this is a company that lists 'widescreen' as a special feature. I still think there has to be some kind of mix up here, they can't have this much disregard for the people who pay for their products and support their franchises.

And all this talk about how it's a good deal for $50, we haven't heard a price yet.

I'm not defending Paramount. I think not having the uncut movies sucks, but I thought not having any movies uncut in the ANOES box set sucked too and I bought it. I think as long as the price is decent, I'll take the plunge.

The NOES movies had slim trims compared to the F13s.

Brain Stew,

I agree about Elm Street. The 2 disc Laserdisc edition of Nightmare on Elm Street for the mid 90's is worlds better than the DVD. Uncut film, 30 minutes of deleted scenes, lots of Wes Craven involvment, etc.

When the Elm Street set was released on DVD, DVD was still a fairly new format in 1999. One cant argue that for 1999, the Elm Street box was one of the very best sets (region 1) available at the time. If it were to come out now in 2004, it would be probably be a lot better.

The Elm Streets are also not known for the trims. The Fridays on the other hand are like different movies all together with their very extensive trims (Only 15-20% remains in most, especially the later films), alternate endings, etc.

Here is a letter from Don May Jr.

He was responsible for going through New Lines vaults during the Laserdisc release (I think it was for the Laserdisc release. If this is wrong, feel free to correct this.) and was successful in doing so.

http://www.mhvf.net/forum/scifihorro...124258102.html

"I REALLY wanted to do these the right way and talked to a few people at Paramount and a couple other folks (non-Paramount) who were involved in this and NOTHING came of it.
I offered to look for materials, compile stuff for the set, etc. I even offered to head into the Paramount vaults (like I did with the NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET films, where I found the unused footage, outtakes and extra scenes after spending 4 days digging through film cans and paperwork references). I told them I'd love to do it... and never heard anything back from them at all.

To actually not have the ability to at least release the COMPLETE version of the original film, when DVDs of the complete version do exist on DVD in other countries, is baffling.

I understand all this info is unconfirmed, but this upsets me greatly as I offered to do everything in my power to help with this set and was basically ignored."

That's interesting that he found what he was looking for at New Line after 4 days. With all the drama you'd think it would take a team of people and years of looking. We don't know yet what kind of effort Paramount made (giving them the benifit of the doubt), apparently the alt. ending for three was searched for and they know for a fact it's not available.

Back to the NOES set: I remember when it first came out people were saying how awesome it was... by today's standards it's a little weak but it was great for its time and I'm sure New Line will update it in time.

That's the thing. I'm basically just a horror fan. I see horror more than anything else. A frequent member of horror film groups, spend at least an hour daily on them. Also on plenty of email groups. And friends, ect... Everyone has been waiting for this box set! I know they would have made a killing but the dissapointment for this set by all is frighteningly grim.

Let's not forget that Part 9 was a New Line release and not Paramount. New Line has consistently put out a quality product, and understands the potential of the medium.

I hate to say this because it sounds like I'm just making things up in order to annoy the Paramount people and their ideas on what will sell, but I know soooo many people who only have a passing interest in the F13 movies that would buy a set or individuals if they were uncut. It's not just the rabid fans, but what seems like virtually everybody in horror fandom who would be excited about it and interested in seeing it. Instead, the reaction we've seen from the supportive odd person here or there is "well all of them in a set for a decent price sounds fabulous." That's it. That will be the audience if the details are right.
I just looked over the Indiana Jones set and I can see why posters are asking us what we were expecting... there's not a whole lot of extras on that set and it's obviously held in higher regard all around.

Well fans should at least be happy that there's two books being released on the series this year, Crystal Lake Memories and Making Friday the 13th (and there's also been talk of a trivia book). They promise to have every detail we could possibly want to know. That combined with a lot of the films stars coming out to conventions lately, and the popularity of Freddy vs. Jason, it's been very good times for devotees. I've been following the series for 20 years and I have really seen a big difference in how they are treated now compared to years ago.

All I have to say is that the only way that I will buy this set is if I can find it for cheaper than $50, eventough I was fully prepared to pay upwards of $150 for the uncut verions with commentary.

As I've said, I'm not a Jason fan by any means, but a decent priced set of the uncut films would have had enough of a curiousity factor for me to keep my eyes open for a good price come release day.

Without the uncut films, it's pointless to me.

I agree.

If I want the same versions, I can just tape them off HBO or Cinemax.

in regards to the Nightmare on Elm Street films the DVD Box Set slips up and doens't include the uncut unrated version of Nightmare On Elm Street: The Dream Child which was and is available on VHS only.


Warners released these uncut in other regions because the MPAA ratings is basically null outside the US, the rating is for US domestic theatrical distribution of the film and wouldn't apply for other countries. Unfortunately, studios once a film is cut to appease the ratings board usually makes the cut print the de facto export version of the film regardless of other countries Film Censorship boards. Hence the rest of the series (after Part 1) never appearing uncut outside the US.


Paramount are hypocrites when it comes to releasing some movies in their unrated European versions, two in particular Sliver and Jade were available in uncut form on VHS, yet the DVD's were the US R-rated version. Exactly what is the stance with Paramount and unrated (NC-17 equvalent) films, they probably unknowingly transfered the unrated Euro-cut of 'Don't Look Now' and that's great, but the reluctancy to sell patently adullt themed movies is frustrating to say the least.

is this the vhs that has the uncut scene's?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...184909961&rd=1

Here is a part of a post from another person over at F13. Not sure if it is 100% fact, but take it for what you will.

This is his quote.

"I called Paramount studios in LA and talked to someone that works in the films archives dept. I mentioned the F13 series in regards to footage. He said Paramount NEVER, I mean NEVER throws away any footage cut by the MPAA. He said they recently found some footage from some classic film back in the early 1900's in there old storage facility. I asked him does the F13 cut footage exist for 1-8. He tells me yes. But it is up to the higher ups to put them on DVD."

Uncut my ass...jason slashed like at least 20 people