William Petersen just called and said you better not be crossing any streets in front of him for a while...:)

I am not worried. Dennis Farina has my back.

But this is a DVD forum, and we're discussing DVDs.

I'm not sure why this has to be a tit for tat over which movie was more popular. Both The Final Countdown and Manhunter were unexpected hits on DVD for the small companies that produced them. Here are some published reports about the Manhunter DVD:

This just shows that Manhunter also was a surprise when it came out. The problem then was that the sales of its limited edition weren't counted separately, as far as I can find; the two releases were lumped together. As far as its limited edition still being available "everywhere," you can't buy it new on Amazon, a good sign of a disc's availability from the manufacturer and distributors, so it is indeed limited.

The Final Countdown is impressive because its more-expensive two-disc set is what has performed so tremendously.

Yes, but the Manhunter LE was also around $30 retail, whereas the Final Countdown was only $16.99 at Best Buy the week of release.

you could always just skip ahead about 5 years...when all dvds may be oop. everything is limited.:D

... and was released at a time when there were 50 *million* fewer DVD players out there.

This is really a bit of apples and oranges comparison for those two reasons.

It is not tit for tat. I provided evidence that The Final Countdown was more popular. That is called relating facts, not tit for tat.

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Kirk Douglas is popular and very well known in the real world. His presence will sell the film to many. That is reality. Deal with it.

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Right back to your usual pointlessly argumentative trolling about what movies "most people" have heard of. This time, however, you can't keep your trolling straight. Earlier this year, you made these brilliant posts:

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I do not believe that Final Countdown will be their most popular release. I don't think the film has that big a following. Most people don't even remember it.

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I really doubt that Final Countdown will have much more demand than Dead & Buried or Q The Winged Serpent.

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I think that Final Countdown is actually a fairly obscure film. It is a genre film and not mainstream at all.

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At least try to keep your trolling consistent.

DJ

The post to which you originally responded specifically cited the popularity of the Manhunter DVD vs. The Final Countdown DVD. You cited box-office figures for the original films' theatrical release in the '80s. That's tit for tat.

The whole thing is silly. The popularity of one film over the other--at the theater or on DVD--does nothing to negate the fact that both have done quite well on the latter, and surprisingly so.

There is no contradiction for those who bother to read for content. I was quite surprised at the success of The Final Countdown. It is an obscure film. That has nothing to to with whether or not it is more popular than Manhunter. I would point out that DJToell posted solely to attack me. Note that he is threadcrapping as he has said nothing relevant to the topic of this thread but is instead attacking those who have done so. He actually has nothing of value to add to this thread and simply wishes to instigate trouble.

I was responding to a post by Walter Neff. He made no such statement in the post to which I was responding.

There's no contradiction between "The Final Countdown is the most mainstream release put out by Blue Underground" and "I do not believe that Final Countdown will be their most popular release"? How about between "The Final Countdown is the most mainstream release put out by Blue Underground" and "I really doubt that Final Countdown will have much more demand than Dead & Buried or Q The Winged Serpent."?

If responding to what you say isn't relevant to the topic of this thread, perhaps you should consider how relevant your own posts were in the first place. Of course, you won't. Trolls never do.

DJ

Not to flog a dead horse or anything (though this topic, if it were a horse, would already be so thoroughly flogged as to be unrecognizable at this point), but I wasn't actually commenting on which is more popular, "Manhunter" or "Final Countdown." I was actually just making an admittedly snide comment about how "Final Countdown" simply isn't that popular or well-known, especially when compared to something like "Matrix Revolutions" or whatever other big-studio crap came out in the last couple weeks. If it were so popular and well-known, a) It likely would've been on DVD before this (and please withhold your "Star Wars" comments -- you know what I mean), and b) It likely would've been released by a major studio, not Blue Underground. (So we can thank our lucky stars that it's not that popular or well known, because it probably would've been given a bare-bones release instead of the nice edition it did get.)

Just seems to me that arguing about which is more popular, "Final Countdown," or "Manhunter," is sort of like arguing about which is the more popular breakfast cereal, Quisp or Frankenberry.

I prefer Count Chocula.:D:p

Just an FYI for everyone. (Like anyone still cares)

I walked into Best Buy this past Sunday (May 16th) and saw a ton of the limited edition Final Countdown DVDs. I never got a copy of it yet, so I looked through them.

WELL, I found #34/100,000. I'm happy. :) There were some others in the 200, 300, and 400 range, and then others were all over the map in the many thousands ranges.

[I know the number means squat, but still, it is a "low" number which says that other low numbes might still be out there]

if low #'s mean squat...why did you even bother to post and even care what # you got? your self-depracating humor just sounds like boasting!

wow, easy there

I hear the low-numbered ones have a serious flaw. It took about 12,000 pressings before the machine was properly warmed up.

;)

Thanks for the comment.

You're free of course to interpret my post as you will.
I, however, don't think #34 is something to boast about. Maybe if it was in the top 10 or so. What I do find interesting is the destribution of these numbered sets. Intriguing to me that a recent shipment to a Best Buy store contained a fairly low number in it. And that is what I tried to point out in my previous post. My comments totally relate to the topic of the thread as my find would seem to suggest that there are still a lot of these DVDs available, and that it isn't "limited" yet.

Oh, scott1598 I do not think you understand what "self-depracacting" means. It means belittling or disparagine oneself. I didn't do that anywhere in the post.

I maybe disparaged the concept of the importance of getting a low number. I tried to do this in an attempt to fend off in advance those inane (means: empty, void, silly, pointless) wasted posts by people who say "who cares?" about getting a low number.

Quatermass :)

I don't know - not that it MATTERS but I like to get low numbers of numbered releases. I got #12 of this one and wouldn't trade it for #34. It's a collector thing.

Would you hypothetically trade it for #34 and $20 ??



(no, I'm not really serious, just curious how much a low number might really be worth in $$ terms to someone).

left nut for a #1?

:D

Yeah, I'd take that trade. The low number isn't more important to me than $20.

In other words, given the choice of numbers I'll take the lower one, but I'm no fool - I'll take $20 and the highest number there is over $0 and the lowest. The number isn't important - it's just nice to have a lower one if I'm buying the title anyway.

You dig?

Yup, I comprehend exactly. Thanks.

Has anyone noticed that the print on the two disc has been switched. The disc that says "Widescreen Edition" is the bonus disc, and the disc that says "Bonus Disc" is actully the film itself.

What a bummer!