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snoopydoggy2002 02-21-04 09:54 AM

resivor dogs se?
 
is the current 2 disc resivor dogs going oop. because i keep seeing low prices for it ($9.99 at target while $7.99 at circuit city) because if it is goin oop i should pick it up.

MasterCXtreme 02-21-04 10:00 AM

The versions with the slip cover are limited edition, but they all have the same DVD's inside.

mcarver 02-21-04 01:09 PM

All of the Mr. "color" editions are now out of print. There is still a SE version out with all Mr.'s on the cover.

SFranke 02-21-04 02:11 PM

The reason for the low prices is because its price was recently reduced, not because its going OOP (as far as I know). I'm hoping Artisan lives up to its reputation and rereleases this one with a better transfer.

jough 02-21-04 08:52 PM

Well, coming up should be:

Reservoir Dogs: Ultimate Edition (metal cover)

followed by:

Reservoir Dogs: Extreme Edition (another metal cover, only this one will tear up the keepcase if you try to remove it).

Just you wait.

reubs82 02-21-04 11:32 PM

Or maybe it will just be "Reservoir Dogs: Original theatrical cut" with an approved QT transfer and no missing dialogue. Artisan may also just drop the price until the every copy is free with a five dollar bill inside. Hey, it could happen...

Mr. Blonde 02-23-04 05:24 PM

The SE has missing dialogue? Thats the one i have but i might need to track down the old one if it does.

Mr. Salty 02-23-04 05:48 PM

Yes, there are several missing lines of dialogue and a crappy transfer. I repurchased the original release.

SNKapcom 02-23-04 09:34 PM

With this movie being as cheap as it is, I bought the original for the movie itself and the SE for the extras.

jough 02-24-04 01:21 AM

The SE doesn't have a great transfer, but it's still better than the original release.

Josh Z 02-24-04 10:34 AM


Originally posted by jough
The SE doesn't have a great transfer, but it's still better than the original release.
Only in that it's anamorphic. The colors are completely washed out and the disc has no black level at all. The original disc's color transfer was much more accurate to the theatrical presentation.

aam1 02-24-04 11:11 AM

The SE colours are closer to the theatrical presentation I saw (3 times).

MrJinx 02-24-04 12:19 PM

I hate these mutiple releases of thr same film... especially when the later editions are worse than the previous ones. Are the extras worth the purchase though? I guess I'll wait for the ultimate edition or something.

jough 02-24-04 12:57 PM

The original disc had higher contrast, but it was artificial, and you lost a lot of definition in that contrast.

I'll take the slightly soft version over the hard-compressed fake contrast version any day.

The film was pretty low budged, and the SE transfer is about as good as you can expect. Were I timing the telecine transfer I probably would've struck more of a balance between definition and contrast, but I can't argue with the current release. It looks better than Res Dogs' ever looked on home video.

FuzzyBallz 02-24-04 01:34 PM

Being a Tim Roth fan, I got Mr. Orange when it was 1st release along w/ Mr. White, Harvey Keitel. Nice package. And yes, inserts were included.

If you can pick up the Mr. Color edition, by all means do it.

Amazon.com still has Mr. Blonde, Michael Madsen, in stock for $12.73.

Originally posted by jough
Well, coming up should be:

Reservoir Dogs: Ultimate Edition (metal cover)

followed by:

Reservoir Dogs: Extreme Edition (another metal cover, only this one will tear up the keepcase if you try to remove it).

Just you wait.

What the hell, Terminator 2 deja vu?

jough 02-24-04 02:08 PM

Yes, I was making a joke.

But I bet you I won't be far off. I'd bet good money that we haven't seen the last release of Reservoir Dogs yet.

gyupo 02-24-04 03:11 PM

i got this dvd (mr. blonde edition) a year ago from deepdiscountdvd but never watched it since i had the old disc. the other day i finally opened it and watched the movie to find that it was defective. is there any way to get a new one? ddd.com won't give me a replacement since its been over 30 days...will artisan replace it for me?

Squirrel God 02-24-04 08:25 PM

Sticking with my R2 UK copy which has a nice anamorphic transfer and all the dialogue. Shame it's 2.0 with no extras, but I'd rather that than the crappy SE which I returned for a refund.

The Antipodean 02-24-04 08:27 PM

What lines of dialog?

aam1 02-25-04 02:27 AM


from dvdcompare
-0:28:32 MR. WHITE: "I think he just passed out."
(-0:38:23 MR. BLONDE: "Joe" => This line is NOT missing, but is a very quiet mumble.)
(-0:51:33 MARVIN NASH: "I haven't been looking." => This line is NOT missing, but is a very quiet mumble
Just the one line is missing.

Mr. Cinema 02-25-04 09:37 AM

did Tarantino approve this transfer?

Josh Z 02-25-04 10:32 AM


Originally posted by aam1
The SE colours are closer to the theatrical presentation I saw (3 times).
You saw a faded print.


Originally posted by jough
The original disc had higher contrast, but it was artificial, and you lost a lot of definition in that contrast.
This has been discussed many times before. The movie was shot on high-contrast film stock under intense lighting conditions in that warehouse set in order to intentionally pump up the colors and deepen the black level. Take a look at any other movie Adrzej Sekula has photographed. It's his signature style.

The SE DVD doesn't have a black level. The closest it comes to black is faded brown. Just look at the opening credits! It's disgusting, and in no way replicates the theatrical experience.

jough 02-25-04 10:46 AM


Originally posted by Josh Z
Take a look at any other movie Adrzej Sekula has photographed. It's his signature style.
Well, Reservoir Dogs wasn't exactly a high-budget film. That Mr. Sekula wouldn't have had everything at his disposal is a given.

Also, consider that Reservoir Dogs is his first film as DP.

Looking at his list of films on IMDB, I wouldn't say that he has a "signature style" as many of those films were shot differently.

Or are you saying that you don't think Andrzej Sekula has range or skill as a cinematographer?

aam1 02-25-04 10:55 AM


Originally posted by Josh Z
You saw a faded print.

I know. It was the same print each time over a period of about 3 years.

The film is too good (IMHO) to get involved in whether it looks exactly right or not. I've seen all the 'problems' - Massive Edge enhacement, 'miss-framing', contrast and missing line, but in the end, I don't think those features are what made this film.

Josh Z 02-26-04 12:07 PM


Originally posted by jough
Well, Reservoir Dogs wasn't exactly a high-budget film. That Mr. Sekula wouldn't have had everything at his disposal is a given.
The movie was shot primarily on one set, with lots and lots of lights to pump up the colors and contrast (cinematography articles from the time claimed that the average temperature in that warehouse set was about 90 degrees). Doesn't require much of a budget for that.

"Low budget" doesn't necessarily have to mean a faded, grainy, colorless picture. That's a misconception that Kevin Smith has foisted on the world.


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