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CPS_ Adventures 03-04-04 04:37 PM

It's funny, I've been buying these for a while, and only noticed a few days back that these even had spine numbers! So far, each title I've picked up has been great, so when new one's are announced and I like the title then they become no brainers...I say buy if you like the film, forget about the spine...

My list thus far:

Ghost and Mrs. Muir
Sunrise
All about Eve
Gentleman's Agreement
How Green is my Valley
The Ox Bow Incident
The Day the Earth Stood Still

chente 03-04-04 07:02 PM

I ended up with an extra copy of Sunrise if anyone is interested.

TheGregWitul 03-05-04 12:37 AM

I'd be interested in Sunrise. You can email me a price/list of interested titles and I'll see what I can do.

I only own 'The Day the Earth Stood Still', and thought about picking up 'The Diary of Anne Frank'. The only dvds with spine numbers that I collect, for the most part, would be Criterion. I like the extras on the Fox Classics and the low price.


John

jough 03-05-04 11:52 PM

I've just started picking these up. I didn't even realize that this was a series until recently, and didn't notice that they were released one per month until this very thread!

This is a really great series of films and once I catch up (I still have 8 to go) I'll definitely pick these up every month as they are released.

Looks like a good lineup through August, at least, although I've never heard of two of the films (I've been pleasantly surprised by the ones I already bought as a blind buy).

ckolchak 03-06-04 12:09 AM

put me down as one who really enjoyed LIAMST.
was great Art?
probably not, but it was an entertaining yarn with likable sympathetic characters and an interesting milieu.

just watced Peyton Place last night and really had a great time.
i'm a sucker for 50s Americana- camp and all, and that film was da bomb in that respect.

nothing on the rest of the schedule much interests me.
i was expecting A Tree Grows In Brooklyn to show up, but maybe it will in Q4.

i would also love to see A Letter To Three Wives.
i'm holding out hope that will make it to this series this year.

movielib 03-14-04 11:15 PM


Originally posted by Gerry P.
This is from The Digital Bits:

"Next up today... 20th Century Fox. We have word that new Studio Classics DVDs for 2004 will include Desk Set (5/4), The Snake Pit (6/1), The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie (7/6) and Zorba the Greek (8/3). All will include audio commentary (Brodie & Zorba are director commentaries) and all SRP for $14.98."

The Snake Pit and The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie are must-buys for me.

I just found out today about The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie and found this post through the search function. This is my most wanted movie on DVD at this time. The performance by Maggie Smith is one of my favorite performances, if not my favorite, of all time. The audio commentary will have not only director Ronald Neame but Pamela Franklin (Sandy) as well. Too bad Smith isn't included.

I have not been able to ascertain if the DVD will be OAR. Anyone know?

greatjedi 03-15-04 01:35 AM


Originally posted by movielib
. . . I have not been able to ascertain if the DVD will be OAR. Anyone know?
Fox has been putting a lot of care into their Studio Classics releases. Every one of them to date has been given a new OAR transfer and has included top notch supplements. They're priced right too! That's why I love this series. :)

jough 03-15-04 01:48 AM

I haven't been this happy with a numbered studio line of discs since the Criterion Collection.

Since these only come out one a month, and they're so cheap (around $10) I'm going to catch up on all of them over the next month and then start buying the new ones as they're released.

The Grapes of Wrath is up next. I couldn't stand the novel but hopefully Henry Fonda's breakout performance will embiggen the smallest man.

movielib 03-15-04 08:30 AM


Originally posted by greatjedi
Fox has been putting a lot of care into their Studio Classics releases. Every one of them to date has been given a new OAR transfer and has included top notch supplements. They're priced right too! That's why I love this series. :)
Great, I thought that might be the case. :up:

RobCA 03-15-04 09:00 AM

According to DavisDVD, both The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie and Zorba the Greek will be fullscreen... :eek: IMDb lists the OAR for 'Prime' as 1.85:1, but they don't have Zorba's listed. They both came out in the 60's, so wouldn't they be widescreen? I just can't imagine them not releasing these two in their OAR.

Rob

movielib 03-15-04 10:32 AM


Originally posted by RobCA
According to DavisDVD, both The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie and Zorba the Greek will be fullscreen... :eek: IMDb lists the OAR for 'Prime' as 1.85:1, but they don't have Zorba's listed. They both came out in the 60's, so wouldn't they be widescreen? I just can't imagine them not releasing these two in their OAR.

Rob

Please let this be wrong!

How reliable is this site?

jough 03-15-04 12:08 PM

So far every release in the Studio Classics line has been in OAR.

Of course, most of them are pre-1950 films, too.

EPKJ 03-18-04 10:05 AM

I only have two in this series, The Day The Earth Stood Still and The Mark Of Zorro. However, I intend to buy more as this series has some great films in it. I really want My Darling Clementine.

jough 03-18-04 05:40 PM


Originally posted by EPKJ
I really want My Darling Clementine.
I just got that one this week. What a great film!

I'm seeing most of these for the first time - and so far 9/10ths of them have been great great movies, deserving of the "classics" title.

I'm glad I've been picking them all up. Even the not-so-great entries (like Titanic) were still pretty entertaining.

baracine 04-07-04 07:57 AM

The Grapes of Wrath came out yesterday. A word of warning about the Canadian edition at least. At first sight, the majority of the promised Special Features do not appear on side A of the disc. That is because they are "hidden" on Side B, which is not indicated on the Side A menu and which is not marked on Side B of the disc itself. At first, I thought I had been gypped by a low-cost Canadian edition where they had forgotten to remove the description of the features on the packaging. But I was wrong - everything is really there (including a Biography Special 45 min documentary on D.F. Zanuck), only poorly marked. [As you may or may not know, some Canadian editions skimp on the special features, while others actually give you more than the US edition.]

jough 04-07-04 12:27 PM

There is no Canadian edition. All R1 Fox Studio Classics discs are the same in both the U.S. and Canada.

Many of the FSC discs are single-sided, dual layered. About a third of them, mostly those that have a lot more extras, are double-sided to handle all of the extra features. This is a GOOD thing.

Personally I'd prefer two discs to a flipper, but at least the feature appears intact on Side A. They don't hide the extra features - but you have to read the tiny writing on the ring.

And of course, they list all of the special features on the back of the case.

Walter Neff 04-07-04 04:28 PM

Besides, if a DVD is double-sided (shiny on both sides), you can pretty much assume there's content on both sides. That's usually the case.

baracine 04-07-04 05:36 PM


Originally posted by jough
They don't hide the extra features - but you have to read the tiny writing on the ring.
My point was that there is NO WRITING AT ALL ON THE SIDE B RING and that the Special Features menu on Side A doesn't say what it SHOULD say, namely: See other features on Side B.

JasonF 04-07-04 06:03 PM

I've got The Day the Earth Stood Still and All About Eve, and will be picking up a copy of The Grapes of Wrath.

By the way, if you go to the website -- http://www2.foxhome.com/studioclassics/ -- and roll your mouse over "More Studio Classics," a pop-up will appear with pictures of the movies in the series. Roll your mouse over those pictures, and you can learn that the collection includes that lost classic: The Ghost of Mrs. Muir. rotfl

ProfessorEcho 04-07-04 06:12 PM

Remember, boys, there is a difference between collecting and accumulating.

jough 04-07-04 06:30 PM


Originally posted by ProfessorEcho
Remember, boys, there is a difference between collecting and accumulating.
Meaning what? Again, ProfessorEcho, you are denegrating someone else's DVD collecting.

The Grapes of Wrath is generally considered one of the finest films of all time, and it's the film that made Henry Ford a star.

The new DVD features an excellent presentation of the film, with a great transfer and lots of supplemental material and documentaries.

What's your problem, dude?

baracine 04-07-04 08:34 PM

I'm watching The Grapes of Wrath right now and the restoration (not to mention the fake stereo sound) is making my jaw hit the coffee table every five minutes or so. When I think of the time I spent over the years convincing friends that this is one of the most important films ever made (right after The Childhood of Maxim Gorky) when the only evidence supporting this contention at the time was the usual ratty copy with scratchy sound generally available at your local repertory cinema... I could scream!

jough 04-08-04 12:48 AM

I didn't find the remastered sound to be too bad - the old soundtrack, as you mentioned, was in pretty bad shape. They re-master old soundtracks in 5.1 all the time - a pleasing stereo track is hardly cause for complaint from me (although I suppose purists will be upset).

The fact is that The Grapes of Wrath both looks and sounds better than it ever has before in a home video format. I'm glad they pushed this title back nine months and used the better elements - their hard work and extra time really paid off in my estimation. :up:

ProfessorEcho 04-08-04 03:59 AM


Originally posted by jough
Meaning what? Again, ProfessorEcho, you are denegrating someone else's DVD collecting.

The Grapes of Wrath is generally considered one of the finest films of all time, and it's the film that made Henry Ford a star.

The new DVD features an excellent presentation of the film, with a great transfer and lots of supplemental material and documentaries.

What's your problem, dude?


Jough, this is the last time I will ever be responding to anything you write, so from here on in, you're on your own. Good Luck.

Nowhere on my post did I mention THE GRAPES OF WRATH. The comment, obviously, had to do with buying a series of DVDs for reasons other than wanting the films themselves, e.g. spine numbers, similar packaging, the mere fact that it's released as a series, etc. This, in my opinion, is not COLLECTING, it's ACCUMULATING.

If all my posts are proving to be so obscure, why don't you simply IGNORE THEM AND ME. Please.

P.S. It's a cheap shot, but you've taken them at me, so I'm not above reminding you that Henry Ford never starred in movies, he manufactured automobiles.

Mark_vdH 04-08-04 04:45 AM


Originally posted by ProfessorEcho

The comment, obviously, had to do with buying a series of DVDs for reasons other than wanting the films themselves, e.g. spine numbers, similar packaging, the mere fact that it's released as a series, etc. This, in my opinion, is not COLLECTING, it's ACCUMULATING.

So when someone only buys stamps that he founds beautiful that would be COLLECTING, while getting complete series of stamps would make someone a stamp ACCUMULATOR?

baracine 04-08-04 08:45 AM


Originally posted by ProfessorEcho
Remember, boys, there is a difference between collecting and accumulating.
I believe the proper expression is "completist".:D

baracine 04-08-04 08:48 AM

About Grapes Wrath...
 

Originally posted by jough
I didn't find the remastered sound to be too bad - the old soundtrack, as you mentioned, was in pretty bad shape. They re-master old soundtracks in 5.1 all the time - a pleasing stereo track is hardly cause for complaint from me (although I suppose purists will be upset).
I wasn't complaining about the sound. I was just amazed by it. The ersatz stereo fills the front perspective very nicely while even the original mono comes out sturdy and clear as a bell and very acceptable on its own.

jough 04-08-04 10:47 AM


Originally posted by ProfessorEcho
Jough, this is the last time I will ever be responding to anything you write, so from here on in, you're on your own. Good Luck.
Somehow, I think I'll manage.


The comment, obviously, had to do with buying a series of DVDs for reasons other than wanting the films themselves, e.g. spine numbers, similar packaging, the mere fact that it's released as a series, etc. This, in my opinion, is not COLLECTING, it's ACCUMULATING.
Well, who's doing that? These are some great films.

And despite your desire to re-invent English, even if someone bought them all to complete their collection, it would be COLLECTING, not accumulating.

See, to collect in this context means "To accumulate as a hobby or for study."

To accumulate means "To mount up; increase." It comes from the Latin cumulus, meaning "heap."


If all my posts are proving to be so obscure, why don't you simply IGNORE THEM AND ME. Please.
Obscure? I don't think you meant that word - but you have, after all, addressed me directly, and your claims are somewhat ludicrous. I'll make you a deal, though - if you stop posting ridiculous replies, I'll stop responding to them to set the record straight.


I'm not above reminding you that Henry Ford never starred in movies, he manufactured automobiles.
Oops. Yes, I somehow blended actor Henry Fonda and the director, John Ford, there, somehow.

Well, I still say that John Fonda is a hell of an actor anyway. ;)

ProfessorEcho 04-08-04 05:24 PM


Originally posted by Mark_vdH
So when someone only buys stamps that he founds beautiful that would be COLLECTING, while getting complete series of stamps would make someone a stamp ACCUMULATOR?
Perhaps "completist" is a better word, but, yes, if someone buys something they don't specifically have use for and don't want, beyond fulfilling some arbitrary standards set by someone or something else, to me that is accumulating, not collecting. To buy a DVD from a series just to complete the series and put it on a shelf, but never watch it, is, in my opinion, accumulating. It's also obssessive-compulsive and anal, but that's another story. In any case, why let Fox or Criterion and or any other company tell you what you should have on your shelf. You are, one hopes, no longer a child collecting marbles. The argument about stamps and coins and baseball cards does not apply because there is value attributed to having complete sets in those and other hobbies. The inherent value of most DVDs will not increase simply because you have every one from a series. In fact, once the technology changes, which it will, how proud are you going to be to have all those unwatched DVDs in your now worthless collection? So be an adult, make your own decisions and don't be sucked in by a good marketing campaign.

Tafellappen 04-08-04 05:44 PM


Originally posted by ProfessorEcho
To buy a DVD from a series just to complete the series and put it on a shelf, but never watch it, is, in my opinion, accumulating. It's also obssessive-compulsive and anal, but that's another story.
Who said anything about never watching it? Why are you so obsessed with other people's collecting habits?

DVDho78DTS 04-08-04 05:52 PM

I'm just here to collect movies I like. If I end of acquiring a whole series along the way then so be it; which is something I don't see happening. I gave up trying to be a completist with hobbies back when I was 19 or 20.

I would like to check out the Fox Studio Classics series in its entirity eventually. Most of the reviews are fairly positive in regards to the films and content.

jough 04-08-04 06:06 PM


Originally posted by ProfessorEcho
Perhaps "completist" is a better word, but, yes, if someone buys something they don't specifically have use for and don't want, beyond fulfilling some arbitrary standards set by someone or something else, to me that is accumulating, not collecting.
Again, the rest of the English-speaking world would disagree here. You can make up whatever meanings to words you'd like, but if you intend on trying to engage other people in meaningful debate (although I don't think this is actually your intention) you should probably learn the right words.


To buy a DVD from a series just to complete the series and put it on a shelf, but never watch it, is, in my opinion, accumulating. It's also obssessive-compulsive and anal, but that's another story. In any case, why let Fox or Criterion and or any other company tell you what you should have on your shelf.
You seem to be getting awfully upset by:

a) something that has absolutely nothing to do with you, and
b) something that NO ONE DOES.

It seems you think that everyone on this forum is a moron (and there are certainly enough posts to back that up - I'm looking at you, Other Forum ;) ).

Who said that they were buying DVDs to complete a series and never watch or enjoy the movies? You're putting words in other people's mouths, making a simplistic argument based on absolutely NOTHING, and making yourself look very very foolish in the process.

Why try to stir up an argument for a problem that doesn't exist except in your own mind? And even if people wanted to buy DVDs to use as skeet - what's it to you? Why do you care so much about other people's buying/collecting/spending habits?

Talk about obsessive compulsive!

Don't be hatin'!


So be an adult, make your own decisions and don't be sucked in by a good marketing campaign.
Thank god you're here to teach us all how to make our own buying decisions. I can't believe we all bought all of those discs just to accumulate them up until now!

THANK YOU, PROFESSOR ECHO! :D

ProfessorEcho 04-08-04 06:59 PM


Originally posted by B.S.Preston,ESQ
Spine numbers make the world go round.
I'm sure this was said in jest, at least I hope it was, but I chose to respond to it, first in a humorous way, then in a serious way. A few of the posts at the beginning of this thread made mention that they were considering buying the entire series, but probably wouldn't since all the titles weren't ones they were interested in. I was inspired by that to remind folks, equally in jest, that there is a difference between collecting and accumulating. I then elaborated on it and admitted "completing" was probably a better word. There were no accusations or personal attacks, other than the ones readers chose to see in it. It was my opinion and the last time I checked, opinions were still allowed on these boards. To those of you who consistently disagree with mine, why on earth do you continue to read them?

LightTrinity 04-09-04 09:22 AM


Originally posted by ProfessorEcho
To those of you who consistently disagree with mine, why on earth do you continue to read them?
Because, as a "completist", I like to read ALL the posts in a thread, no matter who posts them (to follow the discussion). However, when certain comments are made, it basically compells someone to reply (like what I am doing here).

I'm all for free speech, which means you get to say what you want to say, but others also get to respond to what you say, without any incrimination for doing so.

BTW - I have over 5,000 DVDs, quite a few of which are "accumulations" granted because I haven't watched them yet, but I plan to see them all someday. Because of that I think of myself as a DVD collector, although I do not have any "completist" collections like all the Criterions, or all the New Line platinum discs, etc., although, I do kind of wish I did, for a few reasons.

Those reasons are: A) I teach film (college professor). B) I do film research. C) I hate renting. D) When friends come over, it is nice to let them choose whatever they want to watch. Their tastes might be different from mine, but I'm willing to watch anything, as I do have very eclectic tastes. Not that I'm undiscerning when it comes to movies. However, I recognize not all movies are going to be great, but for me that does not mean I should not own a movie just because I thought it was so so.

Thanks everyone for the heads up on Sunrise in this series. I saw the package deals at Costco but didn't get them. I purchased only one DVD in this series so far, Song of Bernadette because a friend of mine who is catholic suggested I watch it. I'm now trying to get Sunrise off of eBay, before the price soars up to high. I also want to get most of the movies in this series eventually. :)

LasVegasMichael 04-09-04 10:33 AM

I will not make a special effort ot collect FSC, no, but I am trying to collect all Best Picture Award winners, and some of them are indeed FSC, so there is some crossover, but it is not intentional.

In general, I like to watch vintage cinema, so I could easily see picking some of these up, but it most certainly isn't because of a number on the spine.

Dragonslayer 04-09-04 12:28 PM

I buy them, not collect them.

scroll2b 04-09-04 02:32 PM

I have the first FSC box set. I'm wondering if the later individual releases will be included in another box set. If so, I may buy. I haven't seen Grapes of Wrath in years.

Pasolini 04-11-04 01:12 AM

could someone please answer a quick question? (sorry if the info is somewhere else in the four pages of this thread)

I saw Anastasia and Anne Frank used in a store today, but no inserts were included. Were these two released with inserts? The two FSC I own both have inserts.

Thanks!

eau 04-11-04 02:33 AM

They should have inserts...

jough 04-11-04 09:17 AM

All Fox Studio Classics discs (so far) have inserts.


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