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phephron 08-23-03 10:42 AM

Star Wars II DVD different than Theatre version?
 
I saw the movie several times when in first came out in theatres in Europe.
I finally just got the widescreen version and watched it (my wife got the full screen version when it first came out, and I only paid half attention to the movie).
Was there cuts from the original movie to the DVD? I seem to remember that prior to the scene where the centipede thingies attack Queen Amydala - there was a scene that she was doing something in her bedroom, then turned off the cameras, leading to the part where Anakin and Obi Wan were discussing that she turned off the cameras due to her not wanting to be watched by Anakin? Maybe I am high, but I seem to remember this scene clearly... Probably because Natalie Portman was dressed in some diaphanous flowing nightgown. Thanks for anyone refreshing my memory and saying if this was true or not.

Groucho 08-23-03 10:46 AM

I know some scenes were added to Episode I on DVD, but I believe Episode II is the same as the theatrical.

MrBob 08-23-03 10:52 AM

I cut out certain crappy scenes from my dvd and the movie is so much better for it.

RussG 08-23-03 11:04 AM


Originally posted by MrBob
I cut out certain crappy scenes from my dvd and the movie is so much better for it.
That makes the movie about 20 minutes long, right?

milo bloom 08-23-03 11:14 AM

[Ignoring threadcraps from 12 year old Matrix fans who think Anakin should stop bullets with his hand]

The Ep 2 DVD has a few slight changes. During the confession scene, there is a smidge more dialogue to make Anakin seem less of an ass. During the fight on Geonosis, there are more sparks added to Jango's jet pack to make sure people understand why he just doesn't fly off, and at the very end, a shot is inserted of
Spoiler:
Anakin's metal hand holding Padme's hand


I don't think that scene was changed you mentioned above.

danicus007 08-23-03 11:56 AM


Originally posted by milo bloom
[Ignoring threadcraps from 12 year old Matrix fans who think Anakin should stop bullets with his hand]


LOL! That's awesome.


I'm pretty sure they showed
Spoiler:
Anakin's metal hand
in the theater? I could be wrong, that was a while ago, but I thought they showed it. I don't remember the dialog scene well enough to remember if they gave Anakin more dialog, and I really thought Jango could use the bounty hunter force to fly away...:banana:

Cornelius1047 08-23-03 12:11 PM

Jeez, what is the point of coming into a thread about Episode II if only to rip on it? Grow up.

The scene with the
Spoiler:
metal hand
was definitely in the theatre version. No clue about the other two you mentioned.

K

HoNuts 08-23-03 12:28 PM

I think the scene with the metal hand was only shown in DLP projected theatres.

DarthMarino 08-23-03 12:52 PM

Just to clarify. They show Annakin's metal hand in both versions however the Digital "print" had Padme taking both his hands including the metal one whereas the normal print she only held his left hand. Also, Padme's moaning as the clonetroopers come to see if she is alright is changed.

Annakin tells Obi Wan that she switched off the cameras but they never actually show her doing that in any version.

greatjedi 08-23-03 01:01 PM

HoNuts and Darth Marino Just spoiled Episode II for me by not using spoiler tags! Anakin has a metal hand? What's up with that?;)

Jason 08-23-03 01:18 PM


Originally posted by greatjedi
HoNuts and Darth Marino Just spoiled Episode II for me by not using spoiler tags! Anakin has a metal hand? What's up with that?;)
He was trying to stop some bullets with his hand, but because he's not superbadass1337cool like Neo he got it shot off instead.

Jepthah 08-23-03 01:39 PM

Padme reviving and getting up in the Geonosis desert was also changed and I think another take was used--the original in theaters looked so ridiculous people were :lol:

greatjedi 08-23-03 01:47 PM


Originally posted by Jason
He was trying to stop some bullets with his hand, but because he's not superbadass1337cool like Neo he got it shot off instead.
:lol:rotfl:lol:rotfl:lol:

arthur_dent 08-23-03 02:29 PM

They used the DLP print on the DVD.

TheKing 08-23-03 02:55 PM

There's at least 3 cuts of Episode II:

Original Theatrical Cut
Digital Theatrical Cut
IMAX Theatrical Cut

And the DVD cut may even be different that all of them. I seem to remember hearing that the DVD cut includes a little more than the digital cut, but I'm not sure about that.

Josh-da-man 08-23-03 07:19 PM

Also, on the DVD, did they "tone down" the "raisins" Padme was smuggling in her top?

Because I could swear they were more prominent when I saw them in the theater, and didn't think Geonosis looked quite that chilly.

Troy Stiffler 08-23-03 08:26 PM


Originally posted by milo bloom
[Ignoring threadcraps from 12 year old Matrix fans who think Anakin should stop bullets with his hand]
Haha at calling Groucho a 12 year old Matrix fan. :D

If I remember correctly, Lucas went back and made Anankin's hand *more-metallic* after the theatrical release. Seems silly to me; but whatever.

Dunno about the other scenes. I only saw it at the theaters once (first midnight show, might I add), and never felt like picking up the DVD.

BizRodian 08-23-03 09:00 PM


[Ignoring threadcraps from 12 year old Matrix fans who think Anakin should stop bullets with his hand]
LOL


Haha at calling Groucho a 12 year old Matrix fan.
Actually, he was responding to the other crappers.

Aside from the metal hand clasping, and the Jango Fett sparks, I don't know of any other changes. There might be a few other minor ones, but belive it or not, I don't really get so upset and worried over movies designed to be fun and for kids. (which is why I never got upset over the SEs either)

milo bloom 08-23-03 09:09 PM

I do remember one, when Padme falls out of the ship, she used to pop right up and run off after a 20-30 foot fall, now she kinda grunts in pain.


And I know better to taunt Groucho. There are two rules on this forum: Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball, and do not taunt Groucho.

The Bus 08-24-03 06:50 AM


Originally posted by milo bloom
I do remember one, when Padme falls out of the ship, she used to pop right up and run off after a 20-30 foot fall, now she kinda grunts in pain.
It's still ridiculous. The only other person I know that can survive such a big fall is Mario, and that's if he's had a mushroom to be big.

El-Kabong 08-24-03 09:36 AM

Here's everything added back into the movie on the DVD version:

* In the Lars Homestead, after Anakin has confessed his slaughter of the Tuskens and slumped to the floor, Padmé states, "To be angry is to be human," and Anakin responds, "I'm a Jedi! I know I'm better than this!"

* Before Jango Fett is killed by Mace Windu, the sparks coming out of his damaged jetpack are much more visible.

* After falling from the gunship and eventually awakening, Padmé replies to the Clonetrooper's question of concern with a painfilled "Uh-huh" instead of "Yes."

* During the wedding scene, the Digital cut's moment of Padmé taking Anakin's hand has been inserted instead of a shot of Anakin's false arm and a pan up.

This of course isnt covering the missing scenes on disc 2, Padme` at home, the Genosis trial, the bit on the Jedi Starfighter launch pad, and so on.

badger1997 08-24-03 03:41 PM


Originally posted by BizRodian
LOL



Actually, he was responding to the other crappers.

Aside from the metal hand clasping, and the Jango Fett sparks, I don't know of any other changes. There might be a few other minor ones, but belive it or not, I don't really get so upset and worried over movies designed to be fun and for kids. (which is why I never got upset over the SEs either)

Exactly, now if only others would get that through their heads. But watch out for their comebacks, that even kids would be bored by the "crappy dialogue and performances" which is crap because my cousin/godson has loved both and was gushing over with praise as we left the theater both times. I was around 4 years old when the original came out and loved all of the original trilogy. Sometimes I just think people who are die-hard Star Wars fans forget that they have grown up since then.

By the way, my cousin's favorite part of Phantom Menace? Jar-Jar and I know my kids love him too. Just like the Ewoks were my brother's favorite thing growing up, these things do appeal to many children, which in the end is the intended audience for Lucas' films.

dvdlover12 08-24-03 04:15 PM


Originally posted by greatjedi
HoNuts and Darth Marino Just spoiled Episode II for me by not using spoiler tags! Anakin has a metal hand? What's up with that?;)



you mean you havn't seen episode 2 yet!

Troy Stiffler 08-24-03 05:00 PM


Originally posted by milo bloom
I do remember one, when Padme falls out of the ship, she used to pop right up and run off after a 20-30 foot fall, now she kinda grunts in pain.
To be fair, she did fall onto a soft sand dune.

spainlinx0 08-24-03 05:45 PM

Who is to say what her physiology is? She's not a human being. She wasn't born on earth. Maybe whatever she is can sustain falls from that height.

karnblack 08-24-03 06:47 PM


Originally posted by Josh-da-man
Also, on the DVD, did they "tone down" the "raisins" Padme was smuggling in her top?

Because I could swear they were more prominent when I saw them in the theater, and didn't think Geonosis looked quite that chilly.

They were more prominent in the theater because they were about 3 feet in diameter! Unless you have a front projector at home they'll probably be only a couple of inches in diameter maximum. :(

MrBob 08-25-03 10:38 AM


Originally posted by milo bloom
[Ignoring threadcraps from 12 year old Matrix fans who think Anakin should stop bullets with his hand]

The Ep 2 DVD has a few slight changes. During the confession scene, there is a smidge more dialogue to make Anakin seem less of an ass. During the fight on Geonosis, there are more sparks added to Jango's jet pack to make sure people understand why he just doesn't fly off, and at the very end, a shot is inserted of
Spoiler:
Anakin's metal hand holding Padme's hand


I don't think that scene was changed you mentioned above.

If you are refering to me I actually like Ep 2 better than Matrix Reloaded. Cutting out some of those awful love scenes really help the movie a lot.

Also you sound like an ass calling people matrix fanboys when there is no mention of movie in the preceeding posts. However if there was some maxtrix fanboy's post that got deleted, then please ignore my comment.

PixyJunket 08-25-03 10:56 AM


Originally posted by milo bloom
[Ignoring threadcraps from 12 year old Matrix fans who think Anakin should stop bullets with his hand]
:lol: Hilarious.

fnordboy 08-25-03 12:02 PM


Originally posted by MrBob
Also you sound like an ass calling people matrix fanboys when there is no mention of movie in the preceeding posts. However if there was some maxtrix fanboy's post that got deleted, then please ignore my comment.
Agreed. Besides, the only difference between the Matrix fanboys and the Star Wars fanboys is that the Matrix fanboys are young enough to still get laid and move out of their parent's basement before they are 30.


;)

of course I jest since I am a fanboy of both series myself.

BizRodian 08-25-03 01:14 PM


Agreed. Besides, the only difference between the Matrix fanboys and the Star Wars fanboys is that the Matrix fanboys are young enough to still get laid and move out of their parent's basement before they are 30.
You haven't seen the fan interviews on The Matrix Revisited. I mean, holy crap! :D :D :D

milo bloom 08-25-03 04:41 PM


Originally posted by MrBob
If you are refering to me I actually like Ep 2 better than Matrix Reloaded. Cutting out some of those awful love scenes really help the movie a lot.

Also you sound like an ass calling people matrix fanboys when there is no mention of movie in the preceeding posts. However if there was some maxtrix fanboy's post that got deleted, then please ignore my comment.

The only mistake I think I truly made was even acknowledging the existence of the threadcraps in a thread that wasn't even a debate about the quality of Ep 2, but was purely Ep 2 theatrical vs. DVD.

The Matrix simply came to my mind first as it is usually the Matrix fanboys that rip on SW the most.

And I'm not going to debate the quality of the love scenes, as I'm sure we're all too old to remember being young, dorky kids in love and saying stupid, dorky things.

Michael Corvin 08-25-03 04:49 PM


And I'm not going to debate the quality of the love scenes, as I'm sure we're all too old to remember being young, dorky kids in love and saying stupid, dorky things.
EXACTLY! This is the first girl he has ever had a crush on let alone fooled around with. I think that whole point of this bringing the movie down is crud. I am quite sure everyone was not Cassanova with the first girl they liked.

Anyway as mentioned above, the DVD is from the DLP (digital cut) of the film. The hand shot was a pan up with his hand at his side, in the DLP cut Padme holds the metal hand. That is the major difference, everything else seems pretty minor.

On the IMAX cut: It had to be cut down to under 2 hours to fit the format. I didn't see it myself but read most of what was cut(around 20 minutes) was the love/relationship scenes. But I could be wrong not having seen it myself.

BizRodian 08-25-03 06:32 PM


EXACTLY! This is the first girl he has ever had a crush on let alone fooled around with. I think that whole point of this bringing the movie down is crud. I am quite sure everyone was not Cassanova with the first girl they liked.
I was ;) but if I was in a child aimed movie, I'm sure I wouldn't have been :P

masetodd 08-26-03 05:32 PM

Everytime I hear the name "Padme" I think of Thai food.

Yellowbeard 08-26-03 10:35 PM


Originally posted by greatjedi
HoNuts and Darth Marino Just spoiled Episode II for me by not using spoiler tags! Anakin has a metal hand? What's up with that?;)
Well, since this crucial clue is now out of the bag. I guess it's safe to tell everyone that Anakin is actually Luke's father.

nodeerforamonth 08-27-03 11:15 AM

I have a friend who worked at Lucas Arts at the time and he said that Lucas was making changes to the movie WHILE IT WAS STILL IN THE THEATER!

Meaning, if you saw it on the first day it was in theaters and then saw it 4 weeks later, you were seeing a different version!

nycdude 08-27-03 12:30 PM


Originally posted by greatjedi
HoNuts and Darth Marino Just spoiled Episode II for me by not using spoiler tags! Anakin has a metal hand? What's up with that?;)
Priceless!!

Michael Corvin 08-27-03 10:24 PM


Originally posted by nodeerforamonth
I have a friend who worked at Lucas Arts at the time and he said that Lucas was making changes to the movie WHILE IT WAS STILL IN THE THEATER!

Meaning, if you saw it on the first day it was in theaters and then saw it 4 weeks later, you were seeing a different version!

Not exactly but close. Nothing changed in the film versions, but the digital version wasn't released unil a few weeks later. That is the version that had the changes that have been discussed in this thread. Correct me if I am wrong, but that was my understanding.

djtoell 08-27-03 11:53 PM


Originally posted by Michael Corvin
Not exactly but close. Nothing changed in the film versions, but the digital version wasn't released unil a few weeks later. That is the version that had the changes that have been discussed in this thread. Correct me if I am wrong, but that was my understanding.
The film and digital versions both opened up on the exact same day. The difference is that the digital version had extra time for post-production. The film version had to be finished quicker to allow the needed time for striking the prints, etc. The additional time afforded to the digital version led to some tweaking.

DJ


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