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Old 08-20-03, 04:20 PM
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ER: Season 1- all 4 disc are DVD-18

I don't know if this has been posted before (can't search for "er") or if anyone cares, but I just got off the phone with a friend (owns a video store) that got this set & he said that the each disc in the set is a DVD-18.
I assumed this when I read the news on tvshowsondvd.com that said The West Wing: Season 1 is going to be DVD-18.
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Old 08-20-03, 04:27 PM
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Does it have an insert?
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Old 08-20-03, 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by calhoun07
Does it have an insert?
If it does, I will cast it into the gates of hell to burn for all eternity.

@JJE, Thanks for the info.
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where are the reviews for picture quality??
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Old 08-22-03, 03:23 PM
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Anything particularly inherently awful about DVD-18s? (Does the glue between layers deteriorate quicker on 18s or somethin'?)

"ER" reviews would be pleasing.
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Some people dont like DVD18s because if they have disc changers, the whole needing to flip the disc defeates the purpose. I really don't mind them at all though... I do like having nice disc art, but it's nothing I need.
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if they have disc changers, ... defeats the purpose.
OK. Yes, this makes sense. Never thought of that. (Probably because I can't really see the need for putting in more than 1 disc at a time.)
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Originally posted by davidvp
Anything particularly inherently awful about DVD-18s? (Does the glue between layers deteriorate quicker on 18s or somethin'?)
well something like that I think......people have mentioned on this site before (whether they were facts or opinions, I don't know) that DVD-18s might be (or are) more subject to being defective or becoming defective (one speculation was because they are 4 layers of information in the same amount of space).

It's also been said they are more expensive to make (I've always wondered if this meant it is more expensive to make one DVD-18 than it is to make two DVD-9s).

I just prefer two DVD9s over one DVD18 any day because:

#1 I like disc art
#2 I like having one side of a disc without information on it because it is easier to handle (you can flip the disc over onto a table or whatever without scratching it, or whatever)...
double sided discs are just more prone to getting scratched, especially the side that faces up. (I sent back my copy of Gone With the Wind twice and none of the three copies I got was scratch free....I just gave up and kept the least scratched one).

double sided dvds suck. just because.
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Also you have to consider that if they put themon DVD-9's instead of 18's, it would require 8 discs which means added packaging costs.
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Old 08-23-03, 07:06 AM
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Originally posted by Civic2oo1
Also you have to consider that if they put themon DVD-9's instead of 18's, it would require 8 discs which means added packaging costs.
Well said....

My Pioneer 525 has never had a problem with ANY DVD-18
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Old 08-23-03, 12:38 PM
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waitasec...

so the discs are Double sided..?
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The set is 3 DVD-18s and one single-sided, single-layered disc (disc 4).

The picture quality is good, with one exception - there are instances of specks, marks and other wear at times during what I've watched of it. In terms of sharpness and detail, the picture quality seems to be an improvement over broadcast. The picture can look quite good at times, it's just inconsistent, in my humble opinion.
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Originally posted by garmonbozia
double sided dvds suck. just because.
I agree %100. I have no interest in ER, but I hope this isn't something that starts to catch on.
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I hope this isn't something that starts to catch on.
Unfortunately, it already has. More and more studios are releasing double-sided discs, and I hate it.
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I sure hope it DOES catch on if it means box sets with 20 hours of episodes + extra features can be had in stores for $40.
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Originally posted by dvdmovie1
The set is 3 DVD-18s and one single-sided, single-layered disc (disc 4).
I was just getting ready to post that. I just got back from my friends & checked out the set.
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Originally posted by LBPound
I sure hope it DOES catch on if it means box sets with 20 hours of episodes + extra features can be had in stores for $40.
There are tv season sets that use six DVD-9s that can be found for the same price (Buffy and Angel dvds for example) I really don't think what type of discs are being used affects price in any significant way. TV sets are being priced at whatever the studios think they can sell them for.

And whatever happened to all the claims that DVD-18s were more expensive to produce than 2 DVD9s?? or has that opinion changed?
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Originally posted by Rogue588
waitasec...

so the discs are Double sided..?
yes, that's what a DVD-18 is. A double sided disc with each side being dual layered. so that is 4 layers of information in one disc.
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Old 08-25-03, 01:07 AM
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DVD is a 2-sided format. If you don't like it, invent your own format and make that only 1-sided (like VCD, VHS and Beta!)
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anyway when's the review already!!


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I'm for DVD-18... for TV shows. Less space on the shelf. Now if only it were in a thinpak box that would put the icing on the cake.

As for artifacts, the show is 10 years old. Law & Order, Homicide, and NYPD Blue have the same problems. It is the show's age and not the format bringing down the picture quality.
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why don't they make cd's that are flippers instead of releasing 2-disc sets. that's because fans and artists want disc art!! well, that's cds im not sure if its dual sided cd's exist..but going back to the DVD-18 deal, I'm don't like them, they are flippers in my book, though some dvd-megachangers will automatically flip the disc for you. i like disc art, but oh well no big deal.
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I just watched the pilot and I must say... WOW! I am amazed at how good this show looks when comparing it to first seasons of shows of around the same time (NYPD Blue, Homicide, Law & Order, X-files). The widescreen is b-e-a-utiful. The quality is excellent. The artifacts are minor, only noticed it two or three times in an hour and a half episode. Not bad at all.

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