Bad news for Law & Order fans
05-22-03, 10:54 AM
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Bad news for Law & Order fans
It looks like they are shelving the season sets and going with Best-of sets acc'd to dvdfile.com:
This really pisses me off. I had little interest in the first 4 seasons (just rely on TNT re-runs) but I was definitely planning on buying Seasons 5 through 11.
Attention Law & Order fans, Universal Studios Home Video has announced two new 2-disc collections of the phenomenally successful show that seems to inspire a new spin-off every week. Law & Order: Organized & Unsolved Crimes and Law & Order: Badge of Dishonor will hit streets on August 26th, with each episode presented in 4:3 full screen and Dolby Digital 2.0 stereo. Which episodes will be on which set have not yet been announced, but stay tuned. Retail is $29.95 a pop.
This really pisses me off. I had little interest in the first 4 seasons (just rely on TNT re-runs) but I was definitely planning on buying Seasons 5 through 11.
05-22-03, 12:55 PM
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Does this mean that there will be no more seasons of Law and Order? I hope that is not the case and that JJE-187 is right. I still haven't picked up season 1, but it is one of my favorite shows and I was waiting to see if they would continue to release seasons before I invested in season 1.
05-22-03, 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by JJE-187
I heard that these 2 releases were for the spin-offs SVU & CI & that the second season of the original would be out in the fall
I heard that these 2 releases were for the spin-offs SVU & CI & that the second season of the original would be out in the fall
* the pilot episodes for the 2 spinoff shows in June
* these 2-disc 'best of' collections of the original show in August
* the full 2nd season of the original show in the fall.
05-22-03, 01:13 PM
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I own the first season, and if the next 10 seasons hit the street tomorrow, I'm there to buy 'em. I will NOT, however, buy a non-season set. Simply not going to happen, my friend.
05-22-03, 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by jedidiah
I own the first season, and if the next 10 seasons hit the street tomorrow, I'm there to buy 'em. I will NOT, however, buy a non-season set. Simply not going to happen, my friend.
I own the first season, and if the next 10 seasons hit the street tomorrow, I'm there to buy 'em. I will NOT, however, buy a non-season set. Simply not going to happen, my friend.
05-23-03, 08:13 AM
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As much as I love L&O (And season sets) I won't be buying them. That's just way too many seasons and way too much $$$. I do hope that if they do a handful of "best of" sets in addition to the season sets that they release a Homicide crossover set. L&O and Homicide had a handful of crossover episodes and with Homicide being released it makes perfect sense.
If they continue with the season sets they need to pick up the pace a bit. L&O has been on forever, it's not like they're going to catch up with the current season anytime soon.
If they continue with the season sets they need to pick up the pace a bit. L&O has been on forever, it's not like they're going to catch up with the current season anytime soon.
05-23-03, 09:02 AM
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Someone in the TNT Law & Order forum e-mailed Universal about future season sets and Universal said that there were no plans to release future season sets.
05-23-03, 09:22 AM
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The thing about season sets is that studios release them in chronological order and in some cases the early seasons are not the best of a series. For example I have no interest in getting the first season of the recently released Cheers set but if it doesn't sell well then odds are Paramount would change to a "best of" format just like Universal did with L&O. Sometimes I wish a studio would go against the grain and release a middle season of a series first because it was the best creatively.
05-23-03, 09:28 AM
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I am a little disappointed by this news, but I do think its a little "out of the ordinary" to consider $55 a lot of money when it comes to season sets. Lets see L & O just completed their 13th season. Thats $715 for all 13 sets, while ST (minus the Original Series) runs $700 for STNG, and similar throughout. So for $15 more you get 132 more episodes (thats with the standard 22 episode season).
Yes I own the first season, while its not the best, for $55 its a great way to use the Target Gift Cards one gets for "driving" Saturns.
Yes I own the first season, while its not the best, for $55 its a great way to use the Target Gift Cards one gets for "driving" Saturns.
05-23-03, 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by Dubya
The thing about season sets is that studios release them in chronological order and in some cases the early seasons are not the best of a series. For example I have no interest in getting the first season of the recently released Cheers set but if it doesn't sell well then odds are Paramount would change to a "best of" format just like Universal did with L&O. Sometimes I wish a studio would go against the grain and release a middle season of a series first because it was the best creatively.
The thing about season sets is that studios release them in chronological order and in some cases the early seasons are not the best of a series. For example I have no interest in getting the first season of the recently released Cheers set but if it doesn't sell well then odds are Paramount would change to a "best of" format just like Universal did with L&O. Sometimes I wish a studio would go against the grain and release a middle season of a series first because it was the best creatively.
That would have actually made good sense for Law & Order since more people are familiar with the McCoy and Briscoe Law & Order. They should have started with Season 5.
The price of a L&O set certainly is not a barrier to entry for me. You are basically talking about $2.50 per episode - that's pretty good.
05-23-03, 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by Red Dog
That would have actually made good sense for Law & Order since more people are familiar with the McCoy and Briscoe Law & Order. They should have started with Season 5.
That would have actually made good sense for Law & Order since more people are familiar with the McCoy and Briscoe Law & Order. They should have started with Season 5.
05-23-03, 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by Dubya
Yeah I got hooked during Bratt's first season which was my favorite (the episode with "Mr. Wicketts" the horse is the best episode ever IMO).
Yeah I got hooked during Bratt's first season which was my favorite (the episode with "Mr. Wicketts" the horse is the best episode ever IMO).
That (S6) was the first full season I watched. I started watching it regularly mid-way through S5.
05-23-03, 12:34 PM
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Everyone is of course entitled to their own opinioin, but I am shocked at the number of people who have stated they didn't like the 1st few seasons.
I have every episode of all three shows on tape and was in heaven when they released Season 1 on DVD.
Season 1 was in my opinion the best of the series. Benjamin Bratt began the steady decay of the series. Don't get me wrong, it is still one of the best on television but to me the essence of the series was captured in Seasons 1-5.
Anyway, I will buy the "best ofs" but just hope that Season 2 comes out in the Fall.
Dubya, no offense, but I would totally be opposed to any TV series that was released in the middle. The "best creatively" standard is the most subjective standard I could ever think of. How would one determine what the best season was ?
I have every episode of all three shows on tape and was in heaven when they released Season 1 on DVD.
Season 1 was in my opinion the best of the series. Benjamin Bratt began the steady decay of the series. Don't get me wrong, it is still one of the best on television but to me the essence of the series was captured in Seasons 1-5.
Anyway, I will buy the "best ofs" but just hope that Season 2 comes out in the Fall.
Dubya, no offense, but I would totally be opposed to any TV series that was released in the middle. The "best creatively" standard is the most subjective standard I could ever think of. How would one determine what the best season was ?
05-23-03, 12:59 PM
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Everyone is of course entitled to their own opinioin, but I am shocked at the number of people who have stated they didn't like the 1st few seasons.
Everyone is of course entitled to their own opinioin, but I am shocked at the number of people who have stated they didn't like the 1st few seasons.
It is not that I don't like the early seasons. I like watching the older re-runs on TNT and that is sufficient for me. I just don't love them enough to own them. If I am going to buy TV series on DVD, I have to love what I am buying.
As for Best-ofs, I guess it depends on the grouping of episodes and how many are on each one.
To me, the decay slowly started after Carey Lowell left, picked up speed after Steven Hill left and is now in a free-fall since Elisabeth Rohm came on board.
05-23-03, 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by MKSilv
Everyone is of course entitled to their own opinioin, but I am shocked at the number of people who have stated they didn't like the 1st few seasons.
Dubya, no offense, but I would totally be opposed to any TV series that was released in the middle. The "best creatively" standard is the most subjective standard I could ever think of. How would one determine what the best season was ?
Everyone is of course entitled to their own opinioin, but I am shocked at the number of people who have stated they didn't like the 1st few seasons.
Dubya, no offense, but I would totally be opposed to any TV series that was released in the middle. The "best creatively" standard is the most subjective standard I could ever think of. How would one determine what the best season was ?
06-09-03, 01:37 PM
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An update...sort of...
From http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news.cfm
From http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news.cfm
Easy Come, Easy Go
6/05/2003
We titled our very recent (5/20) news item "Disappointing news for Law & Order fans...", where we noted that Universal was releasing more DVDs, but "not the season sets that are clearly desired by the majority of fans".
In a move that may or may not be good news, Universal has quickly changed their minds about this release. An update from them today states:
"Law & Order: The Collections has been removed from our schedule. Effective 6/05/2003"
We're not sure yet what this means in the long run. Does it just mean a delay? Does it mean Universal is listening to the demand and switching to a Season 2 release? Does it mean that there was simply some unrelated problem with the releases, like a rights issue for instance, and had to cancel no matter what? Does it mean Universal is mad, so they're taking their ball and going home?
It's frankly too early to tell, and so we'll keep our police scanner tuned in and pass out an A.P.B. just as soon as the perp is sighted...
6/05/2003
We titled our very recent (5/20) news item "Disappointing news for Law & Order fans...", where we noted that Universal was releasing more DVDs, but "not the season sets that are clearly desired by the majority of fans".
In a move that may or may not be good news, Universal has quickly changed their minds about this release. An update from them today states:
"Law & Order: The Collections has been removed from our schedule. Effective 6/05/2003"
We're not sure yet what this means in the long run. Does it just mean a delay? Does it mean Universal is listening to the demand and switching to a Season 2 release? Does it mean that there was simply some unrelated problem with the releases, like a rights issue for instance, and had to cancel no matter what? Does it mean Universal is mad, so they're taking their ball and going home?
It's frankly too early to tell, and so we'll keep our police scanner tuned in and pass out an A.P.B. just as soon as the perp is sighted...
