Hitchcock's TMWKTM (1934) - Which one?

 
Old 05-13-03, 04:24 PM
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Hitchcock's TMWKTM (1934) - Which one?

There are several copies of this movie out there. I personally have the Laserlight version and it is quite bad.

Does anyone know the best copy out there?
Who makes it?
The UPC number?

Help me... Where can I get a decent copy of this great flick?

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I wish I knew what your title acronym meant.
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The Man Who Knew Too Much.

I too have the Delta/Laserlight edition. It is adequate... not wonderful, but watchable. I get the sense that most of the editions out there are from the same source... I'm sticking w/the Delta until Criterion decides to add this to the collection.
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Originally posted by speedy1961
I wish I knew what your title acronym meant.
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934)

Dunno if there's a better version than the Laserlight available however...
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I think Johnny Zhivago is correct.
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Until there's a restoration effort, the Delta/Laserlight is probably as good as it's going to be. And unless Criterion goes for it, I can't imagine any label spending money to fix up a title that is out on every budget label on the planet.
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I was afraid that was the case. Thanks for your input, guys. Hope Criterion or even Image gets a hold of this. At least it's not a Madacy.
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Old 05-15-03, 05:36 AM
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If you're multi-region compatible, you should go for the (pretty cheap) UK release by Carlton.

www.dvdbeaver.com did a graphical comparison a while ago, but the link doesn't seem to be working right now....

[EDIT]
Seems to be fixed already:

http://www.celtoslavica.de/chiaroscu...manknew34.html

Pretty amazing difference in picture quality....
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Old 05-16-03, 02:03 AM
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I have a two pack of this, along with Lady Vanishes. It seems to be made by Ovation Home Video, anybody know anything about the quality of this one? It's still sealed, nobody bid on it when I put it on ebay.
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Originally posted by Mark_vdH
[B]If you're multi-region compatible, you should go for the (pretty cheap) UK release by Carlton.
That is amazing. Wish I could use it. What I did do was order the dreaded Madacy release, as it appears to be the European cut with nearly 10 additional minutes to offer.

I know, I know... but I had to try. I'll find out soon, should be arriving in a week.
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I have the Whilwind double-feature disc which is pretty good for a bargain disc.

Their LADY VANISHES/39 STEPS is the best quality bargain disc I've ever seen, btw.
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Originally posted by markdclark43016
I have the Whilwind double-feature disc which is pretty good for a bargain disc.

Their LADY VANISHES/39 STEPS is the best quality bargain disc I've ever seen, btw.

To my eye, the Whirlwind version is much better than the Laserlight version but not as sharp as the Carlton Pal R2 version.

But, for region 1 folks, it is available and a decent value packaged with Young and Innocent.

Young and Innocent - is a personal favorite of mind. Hitch does an amazing (for the time) crane shot in that one - plus I like the story.

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The Madacy copy --

Update on the Madacy DVD. It was just released (again) in February with a new cover. It's listed running time is 86 minutes, which is NOT true. it's the same version/cut that every other company has. I'm p.o.'ed. The source was remarkably clear except, of course of the major annoyances you come to expect with this company.

Worst problem is the black line(s) running vertically down the screen for most of the film. Looks like scratches. There are some very strange noises appearing now and again that I can't identify but are clearly NOT part of the film itself.

It is actually a tad better than the laserlight I had, which had a very bad source, numerous missing frames slapped together so badly I had to get another copy. Now, based on what ctyankee explains, I wish I'd have gone for the Whirlwind...

I'll wait for Criterion. If that doesn't happen, I'll keep my 2 copies and try to grin and bear it.
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>>Young and Innocent - is a personal favorite of mind.<<

Mine, too. A real overlooked gem from Hitch's British years. I was so impressed with the two double-features listed above, I purchased ALL the Whilwind Hitch double-feature discs. Those two are probably the best, but the SABOTAGE/SECRET AGENT disc is also very good. (And includes two more vastly underrated Hitchcock thrillers.)
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Thanks for the recommendation. I picked it up at overstock for $6.39.

btw, The 39 Steps/The Lady Vanishes Whirlwind disc is also $6.39 (including shipping) at overstock.com ... if I didn't have the Criterions I'd be all over that one ...

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>>btw, The 39 Steps/Young and Innocent Whirlwind disc is also $6.39 (including shipping) at overstock.com ... if I didn't have the Criterions I'd be all over that one ...<<

I think you mean 39 STEPS/THE LADY VANISHES.
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Originally posted by markdclark43016
>>btw, The 39 Steps/Young and Innocent Whirlwind disc is also $6.39 (including shipping) at overstock.com ... if I didn't have the Criterions I'd be all over that one ...<<

I think you mean 39 STEPS/THE LADY VANISHES.
True - Thanks for the correction ... I'll revise my post
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I have crappy quality Madacy double feature VHS of Man Who Knew To Much,Sabotage,Murder & Secret Agent. Bought them sometime in the early 90's a kid. Speaking of which,after all these years. I still have not watched Secret Agent!

Anyway are the Whirlwind dvds available in stores or what? I may have to pick one up if the quality is decent enough.

I'm still trying to possibly get that Criterion Hitch set. Have'nt seen any of the films in the set though. Yet it may be a risk worth taking considering the amount of features it comes with & the decent price. Still i will have to wait & see how my fiancial situation goes.
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>>Anyway are the Whirlwind dvds available in stores or what? I may have to pick one up if the quality is decent enough.<<

yeah, but they're not distributed as well as the Madacy or other crap versions. You can get them from DVDPlanet.
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go to dvdpricesearch and select director for search and then put in Alfred Hitchcock ... it will show all titles by producer and you can then do a price search on them ....

Whirlwind shows as Rhyko (sp?)
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