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MaDJoE 05-04-03 06:04 PM

Pan & Scan Wins again!
 
It's sad but true

http://www.billboard.com/bb/charts/videos/dvd.jsp

Groucho 05-04-03 06:06 PM

For Harry Potter, yes. But look at some of the other titles on the list.

Lee Harvey Oswald 05-04-03 06:10 PM

please tell me the jsp at the end of the link doesn't stand for joey six pack.

I don't think its a big deal, because Harry Potter is still selling God knows how many widescreen dvds.

This is not a sign of the end of wisescreen dvds.

jarofclay73 05-04-03 06:18 PM

HP Widescreen was sold out in a lot of places so I'm sure that's why it sold a lot.

rasalas 05-04-03 06:53 PM

Pick your chart.

Video Business' DVD sales chart is a week newer than Billboard's (Harry Potter is in its third week on VB vs. its second week on Billboard) and does a better job of tabulating internet sales and discount-store sales. On that chart, the widescreen version of HP is No. 2 and the full-screen is No. 8. In its three weeks on the VB chart, the widescreen version has never been lower than the full-screen.

Jackskeleton 05-04-03 07:19 PM

Even if P&S sells more, you will still see plenty of widescreen releases.

BigStinky 05-04-03 07:28 PM

for this topic it would be nice to see sales figures for tvs.

Widescreen vs. 4:3

Saxofonix 05-04-03 10:02 PM

But as far as I understand it, the fullscreen Harry Potter isn't Pan & Scan.

madcougar 05-04-03 10:12 PM

I wouldn't worry about a kid's title selling more WS regardless.

Rammsteinfan 05-04-03 11:23 PM

I have a feeling that since alot of stores "only seem" to carry FS or P&S such as Walmart, Kmart, etc at least from my experience that people who shop there might not know the difference, hence it sells a few more than regular. Oh well, I have no fears of P&S taking over my world.

Joe Molotov 05-05-03 12:25 AM

You have to keep in mind that is a kid's movie. Just the fact that the Widescreen edition is in 2nd place says alot to me about how well WS is doing in the general marketplace.

eedoon 05-05-03 12:59 AM

Have faith - I know eventually, OAR will win no matter what.

DonnachaOne 05-05-03 10:52 AM


Originally posted by Saxofonix
But as far as I understand it, the fullscreen Harry Potter isn't Pan & Scan.
Somewhat correct. It's a Super35 film, and also some shots were recomposed for a 4:3 screen. The effects shots were not hard-matted.

2.35:1 is the OAR and it's what I support.

bboisvert 05-05-03 11:12 AM


Originally posted by Saxofonix
But as far as I understand it, the fullscreen Harry Potter isn't Pan & Scan.
Most people use the term "Pan and Scan" to mean "Not in the Original Aspect Ratio". Technically correct? No. Acceptable shorthand? I think so... (although others may disagree).

And, yes, Video Business has show the widescreen edition of Harry Potter consistently selling more copies over the first three weeks of release.

moocher 05-05-03 03:53 PM

Would be nice to see "family" titles sell more WS than FS so studios such as Disney will stop doing "FS only" releases (Snow Dog, etc.) I can live with people buying FS as long as it does not affect my ability to buy the WS version. Unfortunately studios look at the bottom line only so sales numbers matter a lot - especially on these "family" titles.

Glad to see that WS doing well in the "family" catagory. Hopefully the studios are taking note.

MatthewCho 05-08-03 09:38 AM

Pan & Scan Loses
 
Not so fast....Pan & Scan:

http://www.showbizdata.com/contacts/...s.cfm?id=32260

"Movie renters, who once overwhelmingly preferred full-frame versions of their films now generally prefer the so-called letterbox version, according to the Blockbuster chain. "We made a decision to purchase the majority of titles we bring in on DVD in the widescreen format," Blake Lugash, spokesman for the chain, said. "We try to follow our customer preferences. As DVD becomes increasingly popular, they become more familiar with the features and with the benefits of letterboxing. They've learned it's a superior format to full-frame." He noted that 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment and MGM Home Entertainment offer both version on a single disc -- a policy that other studios ought to follow, Lugash said."

andybrew 05-08-03 10:58 AM


Originally posted by eedoon
Have faith - I know eventually, OAR will win no matter what.
If you take at the link now, Widescreen is ahead. So i guess your right.

majorjoe23 05-08-03 11:49 AM

Re: Pan & Scan Loses
 

Originally posted by MatthewCho
"Movie renters, who once overwhelmingly preferred full-frame versions of their films now generally prefer the so-called letterbox version, according to the Blockbuster chain.
"People will think what I tell them to think! — Charles Foster Kane.

Rypro 525 05-08-03 01:43 PM

Uh, the link says the wide beat the full.

moocher 05-08-03 04:29 PM


Originally posted by Rypro 525
Uh, the link says the wide beat the full.
Not when the thread started it didn't...New week, new (and more pleasant :)) results!

DVD.guy 05-08-03 04:33 PM


Originally posted by DemolitionMan
please tell me the jsp at the end of the link doesn't stand for joey six pack.
:lol:

BigDan 05-08-03 07:51 PM

Re: Pan & Scan Loses
 

Originally posted by MatthewCho

"Movie renters, who once overwhelmingly preferred full-frame versions of their films now generally prefer the so-called letterbox version, according to the Blockbuster chain.

And yet my local Blockbuster often carries only the Full Screen version of movies that have separate FS and WS editions.


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