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Old 09-28-21, 09:38 PM
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"Halloween Kills" Reviews/Discussion - 2021 Horror Challenge



Halloween Kills (2021)




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Old 10-15-21, 10:06 PM
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Re: "Halloween Kills" Reviews/Discussion - 2021 Horror Challenge

I really like Halloween 2018 and I thought this was a huge step down.

It had a lot of kills, so that's something nice I can say.
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Re: "Halloween Kills" Reviews/Discussion - 2021 Horror Challenge

Originally Posted by mallratcal
I really like Halloween 2018 and I thought this was a huge step down.

It had a lot of kills, so that's something nice I can say.
For the most part, I'd agree. I like the idea of the town joining forces to battle Michael, but the execution left a lot to be desired. The whole "evil dies tonight!" thing came across as rather silly, and because apparently we need everything spelled out for us, we even get a line of dialogue about how Michael has turned us into the monsters now. Well, farmer Ted tried really hard anyway.

I feel like the more I think about the movie, the more mixed I am about it. There's a part of me that really likes how they're tapping into events from the original movie and around those times, but I don't really love the story coming out. So, this is all about the cop and not Laurie? Huh?
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For the most part, I'd agree. I like the idea of the town joining forces to battle Michael, but the execution left a lot to be desired. The whole "evil dies tonight!" thing came across as rather silly, and because apparently we need everything spelled out for us, we even get a line of dialogue about how Michael has turned us into the monsters now. Well, farmer Ted tried really hard anyway.

I feel like the more I think about the movie, the more mixed I am about it. There's a part of me that really likes how they're tapping into events from the original movie and around those times, but I don't really love the story coming out. So, this is all about the cop and not Laurie? Huh?
That's part of my problem with the movie. It didn't move Laurie and Michae'ls story forward at all. Plot wise it felt like a filler episode of a TV show, maybe it didn't need to be a trilogy but instead just 2 really good movies?

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When Michael is down and she just stabs him once in the back and not the head repeatedly made me wonder if it was the same people who wrote Kills also wrote Halloween (2018). And I get that's just what happens in a horror movie, but Tommy should have done that, not Karen. She was trained for this, she suckered Michael into the basement in the first one. That really hit me wrong.

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Re: "Halloween Kills" Reviews/Discussion - 2021 Horror Challenge

I thought this movie ranked around the Resurrection/Curse Of MM bad. Like so bad it was funny.

I found myself rolling my eyes at a ton of the dialogue and some of the actions made by the characters (as stated above) didn't always make sense. MM is a killing machine and there is some decent gore and kills in this but it is also filled with a lot of standard stuff and the usual MM random teleportation and hiding in closets.

This was a really stupid film but if you are a fan of the Halloween franchise, this is nothing new and what you enjoy about it. If you like movies like Jason X and Freddy's Dead, you will still enjoy this one. I honestly sat there wondering if the writers wrote it to be as silly and stupid as it is as a play on so many of the past movies in the series. But I doubt they were that smart.

I watched Halloween (2018) yesterday and it doesn't hold up very well either.

My rating:
As a slasher film - *1/2 out of *****
As dumb fun - **1/2 out of *****
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People on the left calling Michael Myers homophobic, people on the right demanding they take out the firefighter scene, I was offended because they had him running in the 1978 flashback.

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I am convinced that Danny McBride and the Director intended this to be a comedy. These guys are too good and too smart to just carelessly write stupid dialogue and stupid character decisions. I think it was intentional. The Big John picking up a small cheese knife ? lol. An old woman carrying an Iron in the mob scene. I think these guys were having a laugh as Ricky Gervais would say.
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Re: "Halloween Kills" Reviews/Discussion - 2021 Horror Challenge

Too much gore, not enough Jamie, bringing legacy characters back just to have them make idiotic decisions and be killed, fast Michael, hilariously bad ending. 2/10 since I’m in a good mood.
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Re: "Halloween Kills" Reviews/Discussion - 2021 Horror Challenge

Originally Posted by clckworang
Well, farmer Ted tried really hard anyway.
I missed this on first read.

The Silver Shamrock masks were a nice touch -- everything thing else... oof. Idiots die tonight! Idiots die tonight!

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really bums me out how so far removed from the original Halloween these movies have gotten.
Gone is the suspense, and dread. Instead we get the same old gore and blunt force trauma over our own heads. I hate so much that they turned him into Jason Voorhees.
I also think that maybe Judy Greer isn’t actually dead. Was that possibly a vision of hers. I hope so for one reason. How the fuck did he get in that house. It was crawling with cops and paramedics.
I’d put this at #6 in the series, but only because of the score. Otherwise it would have been bumped down a spot.
Halloween’78
Halloween 3
Halloween 2
H20
Halloween ‘18
Halloween Kills
Halloween 6
Halloween 4
Halloween 5
Zombie Halloween
Halloween 7
Zombie Halloween 2

Pros: Soundtrack was awesome, I dug his burnt look, it was nice seeing the legacy characters even though they just basically died. The flashback scenes, the H3 masks again.
Cons: The whole mob thing was so frustrating to watch. Laurie and Michael have zero scenes together, all the unnecessary gore and kills and why did it take everyone so long to figure out he was going home?
I really hope they add Tom Atkins in the next one.
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The firefighter scene near the start is well done and interesting.

There are sooo many references to the original it starts to feel tired quickly. World building and elaborate continuity is the last thing Halloween needs. I think it was a mistake to bring Strode back in 2018 for that reason (leaning too much on rehashing the original) and I dont understand the weird Jamie Leigh Curtis worship. (Admittedly I think even the original Halloween is over rated).

I like the idea of two survivors from the first film reflecting on this in a hospital room decades later as a segment but not as a main plot.

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Re: "Halloween Kills" Reviews/Discussion - 2021 Horror Challenge

The more I think back to this one, the less I like it.
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I don't care what ya'll say. I like it.
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I really liked this one. I've already seen it twice, and I feel like watching it again tonight. Especially watching it back to back with Halloween '18. The continuity with the two movies is excellent. It feels like one long movie.
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Re: "Halloween Kills" Reviews/Discussion - 2021 Horror Challenge

Originally Posted by SterlingBen
People on the left calling Michael Myers homophobic, people on the right demanding they take out the firefighter scene, I was offended because they had him running in the 1978 flashback.
Centrists will be happy when the DVD is released.

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Deleted scene of Meyers pleasuring himself while looking at a 'hunky firefighters' calendar.

I'm sorry, I tried really hard not to post this.
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^ So that's why they called him 'The Shape'.
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I liked seeing all the original actors from the original film, and the "townspeople fight Michael" theme was cool. Jamie Lee Curtis is always a delight. The gay couple who bought the Myers house were the best part (never, ever buy a serial killer's house.) Big John and Little John. Classic. But it just seemed to not quite mesh for some reason. The last quarter of the film was good. I have the feeling this is one that will get better with age. 6/10.
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Originally Posted by clckworang
The whole "evil dies tonight!" thing came across as rather silly, and because apparently we need everything spelled out for us, we even get a line of dialogue about how Michael has turned us into the monsters now.
I wasn't particularly fond of the 2018 reboot/reimagining/continuation/cash grab, but this one was about 95% awful. I agree with Toddarino entirely on his points above.

To give credit where credit is due, though, the lighting of the film was gorgeous--it was especially nice when they were looking for Lindsey in the park.

But otherwise, I can't wait for Halloween Ends to finish off this cycle of films. Let it go already.

My subset film rankings for the Challenge thus far:

1. Battle Royale
2. Carrie (1976)
3. Curse of the Demon
4. Freaky
5. Evil Dead II
6. Slither
7. Possessor Uncut
8. The Ninth Gate
9. Tower of Evil
10. Witchfinder General
11. A Bay of Blood / The Spiral Staircase (averaged together)
12. Planet Terror
13. Silent Madness
14. Slumber Party Massacre II (based purely on its out-of-left-field aesthetic)
15. In Search of Darkness
16. Opera
17. The Gate
18. Road Games
19. Daughters of Darkness
20. Triangle
21. The Untold Story
22. The Collector
23. Cure
24. Halloween Kills
25. Hello Mary Lou: Prom Night II
26. Grave Robbers (Ladrones de Tumbas)
27. Body Bags
28. The Severed Arm
29. Fade to Black
30. The Empty Man
31. The Mortuary Collection
32. Cutting Class
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Maybe because I watched this late on Halloween night and had too much caffeine, but I liked it. Yes, some of the dialogue was clunky, and yes, it was pretty lame to bring original characters back just for stupid decisions, but I just had a ton of fun with this.

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