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Old 09-23-16, 10:10 PM
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"Phantasm" Reviews/Discussion - 2016 Horror Challenge: Day 7





Phantasm (1979)



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Phantasm: Remastered will be released in theaters 10/7 & via digital HD on 10/4.


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Old 10-07-16, 10:09 AM
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Re: "Phantasm" Reviews/Discussion - 2016 Horror Challenge: Day 7

I also uploaded an extended "fan edit" version for your viewing pleasure. The details of it are here, where the guy also offers it as a full-DVD download.
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Originally Posted by alyxstarr View Post
I also uploaded an extended "fan edit" version for your viewing pleasure. The details of it are here, where the guy also offers it as a full-DVD download.
Cool Tx. wonder if the upcoming BLu ray will have this
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I wish I had never seen that website. So many new cuts to see.
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Is it a fan edit or the extended 2010 cut referenced in the article?
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Old 10-07-16, 12:41 PM
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Is it a fan edit or the extended 2010 cut referenced in the article?
I... think they're one and the same? My impression was that the 2010 cut was not an official release but rather refers to when the fan editor originally created his (unofficial) extended version. I could be wrong, of course; I'm no Phantasm aficionado.
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Re: "Phantasm" Reviews/Discussion - 2016 Horror Challenge: Day 7

And the award for most unlikely film on which to base a franchise goes to ...

That's not meant to be a criticism toward this film or the franchise, but it really is an odd little movie, not one you would immediately single out as something that would yield four more films. Plus, the main hero of the franchise turns out to be the balding schlubby guy. Talk about unlikely, but that's part of the charm of the series.

I enjoy the Phantasm films, but I don't think I've seen them all. I recorded the first sequel and plan to watch it. I recorded the first one off SyFy. It looked great, but all of the commercials really broke up the flow of the film. It beat paying for it, though. I haven't bought any of the Phantasm films, and at this point, I think I'm content just waiting for the complete set.
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Old 10-07-16, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by alyxstarr View Post
I... think they're one and the same? My impression was that the 2010 cut was not an official release but rather refers to when the fan editor originally created his (unofficial) extended version. I could be wrong, of course; I'm no Phantasm aficionado.
I'm no aficionada either. I was just confused by it being a "commercial" release, but then the title screen has a weird name like a fan edit. Makes no difference, was just curious.

No matter what thanks for posting!
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I wasn't a fan of the Phantasm movies. Back in the 80's, I always preferred the standard slasher flick. This series was just too weird. And I never had a desire to revisit it.

But I watched it today for the subset pick. And I was very impressed. Maybe it's the first time I've watched it widescreen with that remastered video. Back in the 80's it was a crappy pan-n-scan VHS from the video rental store. This time I watched it, I enjoyed it much more. The story was more coherent and the atmosphere was really creepy.
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If you need films to be coherent, don't watch the sequels.
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one of the most original horror movies to come out of the late 70s and 80s. i like all the films but i havent seen ravanger yet. probably wait for the box set
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Phantasm has one of the most epic theme songs ever - I've never been big into soundtracks but Phantasm's beats stand out (so far for me this month only Red Queen Kills Seven Times has also stood out in music).

It's unintentionally humorous how little justification the brothers have for really assaulting the mortuary; Tall Man is seen lifting a heavy coffin so the little brother just breaks in (childhood mischief, ok) then suddenly spheres are flying and a random stranger dies (?, I suppose this death justifies the basis for the next events) so they grab some guns and go right back in.

I love how limited screen time The Tall Man has - a lot of horror movies throw around the villain or even tell the story from the bad guy's perspective... here there's barely a villain and he's in an 'upper management' roll to spheres, dwarfs, or bugs spawned from severed fingers.

Has anyone involved ever admitted the robed midgets are lifted from the Star Wars (which came out just 2 years earlier)?

It's awesome how to check on his parents remains the kid just walks into the mortuary hall (with it's horrible faux marble) and pulls open the drawer.
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...Maybe it's the first time I've watched it widescreen with that remastered video.... I enjoyed it much more.
Being excited about the remastered release I got suckered into "purchasing" it on a streaming service and it's a nice upgrade. Curious there is no physical media announcement. Even more unlikely that it's just airing on Syfy.
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And the award for most unlikely film on which to base a franchise goes to ...it really is an odd little movie...
I love the 'just right' balance of randomness and plot; you never really know what to expect.
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Phantasm has one of the most epic theme songs ever - I've never been big into soundtracks but Phantasm's beats stand out (so far for me this month only Red Queen Kills Seven Times has also stood out in music).
I've gotta agree with you on this one--it's easily one of the ten most recognizable horror movie themes ever. I even heard it being used as the backing track for a rap song several years ago--anybody know which rapper did that?

Has anyone involved ever admitted the robed midgets are lifted from the Star Wars (which came out just 2 years earlier)?
In the article Fangoria did on the movie when it first came out, Coscarelli said that they were in the midst of shooting (which took somewhere around two years) when someone on the crew came back from seeing Star Wars and mentioned to him that it had characters that looked just like his. Coscarelli was too deep into shooting to change the costuming of the dwarfs at that point, so he just left them as he'd had them, Jawas be damned.

It's awesome how to check on his parents remains the kid just walks into the mortuary hall (with it's horrible faux marble) and pulls open the drawer.
Well, his brother Jody had actually done the grunt work of getting the coffin able to be opened before Mike got there. Funny that you should mention the "horrible faux marble"--while I was watching it tonight, I noticed for the first time how unrealistic and garish the "marble" was in the mortuary.

Being excited about the remastered release I got suckered into "purchasing" it on a streaming service and it's a nice upgrade. Curious there is no physical media announcement. Even more unlikely that it's just airing on Syfy.
It's been announced by Blu-ray.com and other websites that it'll hit DVD and Blu-ray on December 6th.

I love the 'just right' balance of randomness and plot; you never really know what to expect.
I think that's the key to both its uniqueness and its longevity. There's really nothing else quite like it. It's the cinematic equivalent of a 10-year-old boy telling someone about a particularly vivid nightmare that he had, including all of the "and thens" that glue the disparate narrative pieces together.
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Phantasm (1979)

Don Coscarelli's living nightmare spawned several sequels and a complete remaster headed by JJ Abrams. Not many horror films garner this type of love and attention decades after the fact, but Phantasm is worthy another look. It's about two brothers that sense something suspicious is going on at the local mortuary. Close friends are dying in mysterious circumstances, and the tall, lanky funeral director is constantly lurking and lumbering through the sterile halls.

This is a film that sticks with you long after you've seen it because of its creepy atmosphere, haunting soundtrack, and dream-like narrative. Every scene feels like part of a bad dream, rather than a story unfolding in a movie. There are times where the audience can't separate reality from a horrific vision. Dwarves in brown robes reach out from the ground to claw at ankles, unholy spheres fly through the air, blades protruding and looking for a forehead to sink into. This movie has some unforgettable images, and maintains such a mysterious atmosphere that you can't help but hope there is a sequel afer witnessing the terrifying finale.
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Phantasm is always great fun - I think more each time I've watched it. It's creepy in the right places, but doesn't take itself too seriously. The inventiveness of the filmmaking on a small budget and with no CGI, is amazing.

This year I watched the sequels for the first time, which are, yes, inferior, but still enjoyable. And the commentaries are recommended listening, informative, and obviously the director and actors enjoy each other.
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Re-watched Phantasm. I like it, but I guess I never really got into it that much. It is a good movie with great story and atmosphere. The story revolves around a 13 year old, and that seems to be the problem. The movie surrounds a kid, but it is not a kid friendly movie like Goonies. It is an adult orientated horror Rated R movie with sex, nudity and violence. Just seems weird that the protagonist is a 13 year old. I agree with comments above about the soundtrack. I watched on VHS copy and it sounded great. Really loud creepy sounding music and sounds. I remember in the middle of the movie thinking that sounds awesome.
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First time I ever watched this I absolutely hated it, but from what I recall I walked out of the theater confused as to what I just saw, but as I got to watch again and again I have gotten to like it and believe that I caught new things as time went on. I am at the point where I like it enough that I'll sit there and watch it if its playing or in this case is in the subset otherwise it's not a film I feel compelled to watch on a regular basis like other horror films
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First time I ever watched this I absolutely hated it, but from what I recall I walked out of the theater confused as to what I just saw, but as I got to watch again and again I have gotten to like it and believe that I caught new things as time went on. I am at the point where I like it enough that I'll sit there and watch it if its playing or in this case is in the subset otherwise it's not a film I feel compelled to watch on a regular basis like other horror films
I was in the same boat regarding my first watch, where I was more confused than anything. The only thing I could remember from my original viewing was the stark white mausoleum and the silver sphere. I remember growing up and walking into a real mausoleum that was mostly done in the white marble and kind of freaking out. This was my second viewing and enjoyed it much more, but some of the scenes were quite surreal.
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Watched it as a kid after the sequel came out where they heavily advertised all the different balls that killed people. So I went into it expecting a movie where instead of a monster, there were killer balls. Then it ended up not really having anything to do with them and the rest was confusing and made no sense.

Then I watched it and part 2 a few years back and this time I could actually follow it and liked it.
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I have tried to give this movie several chances since so many people seem to love it but it just does nothing for me. As others has stated, it has random scenes just patched together. While that makes sense if the filmmaker is wanting to copy the random feeling of a dream, it does not make for enjoyable viewing for me.

Love the score/theme of the movie though. I even really like that ditty that the brother and Reggie play on the porch. Wonder if that is on the soundtrack?
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