"The Terror -&- Frankenstein 1970" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Day 24
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<table border="25"><tr> <BR><td bgcolor=#000000> The Terror (1963) / Frankenstein 1970 (1958) http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...5.jpg~original Selected by nezumi </tr></td></table> IMDB ENTRY IMDB ENTRY 2 ON YOUTUBE ON YOUTUBE 2 ON DAILYMOTION ON DAILYMOTION 2 ALYXSTARR LINK - THE TERROR ALYXSTARR LINK - FRANKENSTEIN 1970 ALYXSTARR LINK - FRANKENSTEIN 1970 WITH COMMENTARY _______________________________________ These "October Horror Movie Challenge" threads are for the discussion of the films in the 31 FILM SUBSET list. The plan is for everyone to watch this film on the October day in the thread title, and to start discussing it the morning of the following day. You may start discussion early if you want, but the preferred plan is for this to be as much of a group exercise as possible, with all of us viewing it "together" and discussing after. Of course, you are totally encouraged to participate in these threads even if you haven't watched the movie on the designated day. Even if you haven't watched it in years, or are not participating in the Horror Challenge, please feel free to chime in. Spoiler tags aren't always used in here, so if you have yet to see the film BEWARE OF POSSIBLE SPOILERS. _______________________________________ <table border="25"><tr> <td bgcolor=#000000> S P O N S O R E D B Y <table border="5"><tr> <td bgcolor=#2F4F4F>http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...kSmallLogo.jpg </tr></td></table> <table border="5"><tr> <td bgcolor=#2F4F4F>http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...rSmallLogo.jpg </tr></td></table> <table border="5"><tr> <td bgcolor=#2F4F4F>http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...c.jpg~original </tr></td></table> <table border="5"><tr> <td bgcolor=#2F4F4F>http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...o.jpg~original </tr></td></table> <td bgcolor=#000000> S P O N S O R E D B Y </tr></td></table> 2015 DISCUSSION | 2015 LISTS |
Re: "The Terror -&- Frankenstein 1970" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Da
I should have mentioned earlier that MGMHD aired Terror last night. Even though I've already got the movie on DVD, it's no surprise that the TV-showing had superior A/V. Ended up recording it and will save it for the subset day.
I'm not a big fan of Frank'70 at all, but (With Alyxstarr providing miracles as usual) I'm very much interested in the commentary (Tom Weaver's my most favorite of the classic-horror commentators) so I'll be tuning in to that one. BTW, this was my very first introduction to The Terror: Anybody else remember this on Liquid Television? |
Re: "The Terror -&- Frankenstein 1970" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Da
Frankenstein 1970 is a yawner. The DVD has a commentary track so I may check it out with that to see if I can get anything beneficial out of it other than Karloff.
But if you get the movie from Netflix via DVD, you get a double feature with a Karloff movie called The Walking Dead (1936) which is very good and I highly recommend checking it out. The only downfall is the ending. The script-writer obviously didn't have an answer to their good idea so the movie just ends with no resolution. |
Re: "The Terror -&- Frankenstein 1970" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Da
Watched Frankenstein 1970 with the commentary and while the commentary is a lot of fun, it doesn't help the film any. It is still awful.
On a side note, I also watched the commentary on The Walking Dead and it is excellent and will remind you of the great, informative commentaries on the Universal Monster discs. |
Re: "The Terror -&- Frankenstein 1970" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Da
Don't watch the Dailymotion link for the The Terror. The audio is terrible. Had to have been at least 10 minutes of complete silence all together from all of the cut outs.
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Re: "The Terror -&- Frankenstein 1970" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Da
I think that Frankenstein 1970 was very slow but still showed off Karloff's skill. The Terror was faster paced but fairly confusing at times. I still don't know why there was a crib in Ilsa's room but I guess I never will. For the time period, this could have been an interesting twin bill.
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Re: "The Terror -&- Frankenstein 1970" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Da
That guy Dick Miller is the greatest thing about The Terror. Love the way he attempts to recap the convoluted plot to Jack, and does it so eloquently.
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Re: "The Terror -&- Frankenstein 1970" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Da
Got done with both earlier. I'd still, one day, like to find out which director shot specific sequences for Terror.
As promised, I listened to the audio commentary for Frank'70. Since the movie's a dud, it was pleasing to hear all the comments (Mostly from Bob) pertaining to the 50's movie-world. I was especially intrigued by the "Halloween Frankenstein-Castle radio show" segment. |
Re: "The Terror -&- Frankenstein 1970" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Da
I liked some of the 'meta' elements wit Frankenstein and for the first 10 minutes or so it was a good movie but then it went... nowhere. Karloff is masterful in it, sinking ship that it is.
The Terror really jumps the shark at the end; what a lame and unbelievable twist... it is interesting so many directors were involves. |
Re: "The Terror -&- Frankenstein 1970" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Da
Originally Posted by Spiderbite
(Post 12621251)
Frankenstein 1970 is a yawner.
Originally Posted by SterlingBen
(Post 12626721)
Don't watch the Dailymotion link for the The Terror. The audio is terrible. Had to have been at least 10 minutes of complete silence all together from all of the cut outs.
Originally Posted by orlmac
(Post 12626836)
I think that Frankenstein 1970 was very slow but still showed off Karloff's skill. The Terror was faster paced but fairly confusing at times. I still don't know why there was a crib in Ilsa's room but I guess I never will. For the time period, this could have been an interesting twin bill.
Originally Posted by Chad
(Post 12626956)
That guy Dick Miller is the greatest thing about The Terror. Love the way he attempts to recap the convoluted plot to Jack, and does it so eloquently.
Originally Posted by Mondo Kane
(Post 12627048)
Got done with both earlier. I'd still, one day, like to find out which director shot specific sequences for Terror.
Originally Posted by Undeadcow
(Post 12627070)
The Terror really jumps the shark at the end; what a lame and unbelievable twist...
I wonder what the actual budget finally came in at? It couldn't have cost a whole lot, and Corman only ever made one film as a director that lost money (The Intruder), at least according to him. I should have watched Dementia 13 right after The Terror, as that was its original U.S. co-feature. |
Re: "The Terror -&- Frankenstein 1970" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Da
Originally Posted by rbrown498
(Post 12627100)
My big question: What does the "1970" in the title have to do with anything?
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Re: "The Terror -&- Frankenstein 1970" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Da
Originally Posted by Mondo Kane
(Post 12627113)
On the commentary, which I recommend if you've got the time, it was said that the date marked an anniversary of the book's first appearance. 200th, I think.
Okay, I watched a crummy transfer of The Terror on one of my Mill Creek collections. I thought it was okay but nothing special. Kinda sad when the worst actor is Jack Nicholson. The talking mute was better than him. He is just horrible in this and sounds like he is just read lines in a book. Actually, all the dialogue came across as a stage play more than a movie. My question, was it explained how the lover came to possess the body of the Baron? That seems like an important storyline and somehow I only seemed to hear about it with a quickly delivered line toward the end. But I missed the explanation on how and/or why? And by the way, I was going thru the Exploitation channel on my roku (unfortunately after I had already watched The Terror) and they have a nice looking widescreen transfer streaming if you have a subscription. |
Re: "The Terror -&- Frankenstein 1970" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Da
Originally Posted by Spiderbite
(Post 12622617)
Watched Frankenstein 1970 with the commentary and while the commentary is a lot of fun, it doesn't help the film any. It is still awful.
On a side note, I also watched the commentary on The Walking Dead and it is excellent and will remind you of the great, informative commentaries on the Universal Monster discs. I forgot I owned that Karloff/Lugosi set, unopened even, and streamed the film instead. I'll have to get to that next year.
Originally Posted by Chad
(Post 12626956)
That guy Dick Miller is the greatest thing about The Terror. Love the way he attempts to recap the convoluted plot to Jack, and does it so eloquently.
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Re: "The Terror -&- Frankenstein 1970" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Da
Originally Posted by Spiderbite
(Post 12627212)
Kinda sad when the worst actor is Jack Nicholson. The talking mute was better than him. He is just horrible in this and sounds like he is just read lines in a book...
In fact, for all the negative comments here about Frankenstein 1970, I found The Terror both duller, more inconsistent and generally the worse of the two films. |
Re: "The Terror -&- Frankenstein 1970" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Da
Originally Posted by Trevor
(Post 12627261)
I forgot I owned that Karloff/Lugosi set, unopened even, and streamed the film instead. I'll have to get to that next year.
Originally Posted by Trevor
(Post 12627261)
Agreed. Anyone watch that documentary on him?
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Re: "The Terror -&- Frankenstein 1970" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Da
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Re: "The Terror -&- Frankenstein 1970" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Da
Originally Posted by Mondo Kane
(Post 12627048)
I was especially intrigued by the "Halloween Frankenstein-Castle radio show" segment.
For those confused about what I'm talking about, the idea of Frankenstein '70 was mostly green-lit by this radio-broadcast: It's almost like Welles' War of the Worlds (Both, ironically, airing on Halloween) but the broadcaster wasn't aware of the joke and damn near died of a heart attack. |
Re: "The Terror -&- Frankenstein 1970" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Da
I opted to watch The Terror yesterday night, even though I've already seen it multiple times (BTW, Chad, Youtube link 2 in the first post actually links to Dracula vs. Frankenstein and not Frankenstein 1970). It does tend to plod along, but there are some lively moments here and there. I always enjoy the scene where Dick Miller's character interrogates the old witch. It's like he turns into a police inspector. I also enjoy how almost nobody attempts to affect a European accent of any kind. The face melting at the end always gets me cackling. Finally, I can't help but feel a little sorry for poor old Boris while he's being deluged with all that water. The guy was pushing 75 by that point!
Joe Dante speaks about Frankenstein 1970 for Trailers From Hell (Warning: Spoliers): |
Re: "The Terror -&- Frankenstein 1970" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Da
Originally Posted by Spiderbite
(Post 12627682)
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Re: "The Terror -&- Frankenstein 1970" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Da
Originally Posted by nezumi
(Post 12627770)
The face melting at the end always gets me cackling.
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