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"In the Mouth of Madness" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Day 21





John Carpenter's
In the Mouth of Madness (1994)



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These "October Horror Movie Challenge" threads are for the discussion of the films in the 31 FILM SUBSET list.

The plan is for everyone to watch this film on the October day in the thread title, and to start discussing it the morning of the following day.
You may start discussion early if you want, but the preferred plan is for this to be as much of a group exercise as possible, with all of us viewing it "together" and discussing after.

Of course, you are totally encouraged to participate in these threads even if you haven't watched the movie on the designated day.
Even if you haven't watched it in years, or are not participating in the Horror Challenge, please feel free to chime in.



Spoiler tags aren't always used in here, so if you have yet to see the film BEWARE OF POSSIBLE SPOILERS.
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Re: "In the Mouth of Madness" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Day 21

In the Mouth of Madness is the best Lovecraft movie pastiche ever, even though it's not actually based on anything Lovecraft wrote. Carpenter gets everything right, especially Lovecraft's central conceit that the world we see is merely a thin sheet insulating humankind from the true chaotic nature of the universe, a reality that would shatter sanity if it were seen clearly.
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Re: "In the Mouth of Madness" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Day 21

I consider this Carpenter's most polished horror movie and it's one of my favorites. The script is fantastic.
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John Carpenter. Really, nothing else needs to be said. Sam Neill played his role to perfection. One of the best movies of the subset so far.
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Re: "In the Mouth of Madness" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Day 21

Originally Posted by Gobear
In the Mouth of Madness is the best Lovecraft movie pastiche ever, even though it's not actually based on anything Lovecraft wrote. Carpenter gets everything right, especially Lovecraft's central conceit that the world we see is merely a thin sheet insulating humankind from the true chaotic nature of the universe, a reality that would shatter sanity if it were seen clearly.
Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
I consider this Carpenter's most polished horror movie and it's one of my favorites. The script is fantastic.
Originally Posted by orlmac
John Carpenter. Really, nothing else needs to be said. Sam Neill played his role to perfection. One of the best movies of the subset so far.
You all took most of the words out of my mouth.

The only thing I'll add is that the commentary on the DVD is a snoozefest unless you're into the technical side of film. It's almost 100% technical discussion.
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Re: "In the Mouth of Madness" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Day 21

I'm surprised In the Mouth of Madness hasn't been a subset pick sooner; I think it's Carpenter's best film. I love the slow decay of reality making it feel like there are 2 halves, the more subtle first half and the exiting reality second half... plus the ending is excellent. Sam Neil really sells the role too.
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... plus the ending is excellent. Sam Neil really sells the role too.
I liked the meta-movie watching, too.

Enjoyable enough, though it made me yearn for a 'lunatics in the asylum' film where they AREN'T right, but are actually hallucinating and delusional.

The credits said the paperboy was Hayden Christensen.
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And it's got one of the coolest rock intro/outros ever. I love the soundtrack
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Carpenter's last brilliant film.
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Re: "In the Mouth of Madness" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Day 21

Originally Posted by Hokeyboy
Carpenter's last brilliant film.
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Probably much to Undeadcow's displeasure, I must be the dissenter again, but only because I find the majority of Lovecraft's work to be silly in the extreme. Therefore, I also find most movies based on Lovecraft's work to be kind of silly, and this one is no exception. I would probably agree with all of the comments above if I liked Lovecraft's work...but I don't, so I don't. No amount of technical skill exhibited by Carpenter can overcome what, to me, is a goofy basic concept.

Now that I think about it, this may have something to do with why I don't love The Cabin in the Woods, either....

Okay, you can start lobbing the brickbats now.
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I saw this one in the theaters and don't think I have seen it since. It left me cold in the theater and leaves me cold now. I usually like movies where your aren't sure what is reality and what isn't but this movie does nothing for me.
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Re: "In the Mouth of Madness" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Day 21

Originally Posted by rbrown498
Probably much to Undeadcow's displeasure, I must be the dissenter again, but only because I find the majority of Lovecraft's work to be silly in the extreme. Therefore, I also find most movies based on Lovecraft's work to be kind of silly, and this one is no exception. I would probably agree with all of the comments above if I liked Lovecraft's work...but I don't, so I don't. No amount of technical skill exhibited by Carpenter can overcome what, to me, is a goofy basic concept.

Now that I think about it, this may have something to do with why I don't love The Cabin in the Woods, either....

Okay, you can start lobbing the brickbats now.
Stop being a snob.
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Re: "In the Mouth of Madness" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Day 21

Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
Stop being a snob.
I'll stop being a snob if you'll stop being an asshat.
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Re: "In the Mouth of Madness" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Day 21

Originally Posted by rbrown498
Probably much to Undeadcow's displeasure, I must be the dissenter again, but only because I find the majority of Lovecraft's work to be silly in the extreme. Therefore, I also find most movies based on Lovecraft's work to be kind of silly, and this one is no exception. I would probably agree with all of the comments above if I liked Lovecraft's work...but I don't, so I don't. No amount of technical skill exhibited by Carpenter can overcome what, to me, is a goofy basic concept.

Now that I think about it, this may have something to do with why I don't love The Cabin in the Woods, either....

Okay, you can start lobbing the brickbats now.
Bro, do you even like horror movies?
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In The Mouth of Madness has a great Stephen King vibe. It's the closest movie I can think of that captures the mood and spirit of his better novels. Yes, I realize Stephen King did not write the script or anything.
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Re: "In the Mouth of Madness" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Day 21

Originally Posted by DaveyJoe
Bro, do you even like horror movies?
I love 'em. I thought that I gave a perfectly valid reason for not liking this one: I don't like Lovecraft. I never have. I don't understand how that makes me a snob or gives the impression that I don't like horror movies. Do I like all horror movies? Obviously not, or I'd like In the Mouth of Madness.

I've seen, quite literally, well over 1,000 horror films during my lifetime, and I've become somewhat of a connoisseur of them, just as someone who really loves wine, or cigars, or cars knows enough about them to be able to tell the good ones from the bad ones. Somebody who's only tried Boone's Farm will probably think that it's at least an okay wine, but someone who knows the difference between a Pinot Grigio and a Sauvignon Blanc will probably hate it. Does that make them a snob? Or does it make them an informed consumer of wine?

I've not disparaged anyone's taste in horror movies this Challenge--if you like a film, well, bully for you. Just because I don't like that same film doesn't mean I'm a snob or that you have no taste. It just means that you like what you like because of the things that you've experienced, and I like the things that I like because of the things that I'VE experienced. I will always try to give reasons for not liking something, so that others will know where I'm coming from. I don't care if others disagree with me; disagreement gets presidents elected. Stooping to name-calling if you don't agree with my or any other person's opinions is childish and doesn't accomplish anything.
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Re: "In the Mouth of Madness" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Day 21

I hate that we need to use smilies to make sure we're not seen as 100% serious in our snarky comments.
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Originally Posted by Trevor
I hate that we need to use smilies to make sure we're not seen as 100% serious in our snarky comments.
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Originally Posted by Trevor
I hate that we need to use smilies to make sure we're not seen as 100% serious in our snarky comments.
I managed to avoid using them for a good decade, but then managed to seriously offend/cause offense/..problems were caused somehow I'm still not certain of probably because of a misconstrued text message. So I started scattering them sparingly by phone message to fend off ignorance/misunderstanding. Then a similar case of idiocy/confusion was explicitly linked to a confusion of tone in a forum, so.. it's sad and annoying (and probably a symptom of societal failing) but often necessary.

Slightly more charitably, as the world shrinks and there is more interaction between cultures, mindsets and backgrounds of all types.. having a common shorthand of happiness, sadness and sarcastic-jokery DOES help with comprehenaion in a reading-based world of interaction devoid of facial expression and tone.

I liked using bold and italics to convey tone, but many don't, so I try and refrain.
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Originally Posted by Trevor
I hate that we need to use smilies to make sure we're not seen as 100% serious in our snarky comments.
I forgot to use one and I get called an asshat.

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Originally Posted by rbrown498
Probably much to Undeadcow's displeasure, I must be the dissenter again, but only because I find the majority of Lovecraft's work to be silly in the extreme. Therefore, I also find most movies based on Lovecraft's work to be kind of silly, and this one is no exception. I would probably agree with all of the comments above if I liked Lovecraft's work...but I don't, so I don't.
I'm generally unmoved by Lovecraft and his works, but this was actually a lot better for me - few tentacles and unpronouncable monsters; meta-fourth-wallery AND you could see the whole thing as allegory for people claiming/blaming that popular (horror) culture is influencing/affecting/responsible for their actions.
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Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
I forgot to use one and I get called an asshat.

At least it was reciprocal rather than escalated - I got death wishes once... Which made me , not .
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Originally Posted by rbrown498
...I find the majority of Lovecraft's work to be silly in the extreme...
While I enjoy Lovecraft I can see how his slow buildup of just un-seen terror is the best part and once tentacles start flying then it's somewhat over the top if not set up well. In the Mouth of Madness has enough set-up that I think it works and with the exception of the end it never feels so full on transparent that it maintains the 'just outside of vision' feel that is Lovecraft at his best. Certainly if it was a tentacle monster jumping around that would be silly; but then again that applies to many horror tropes.
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Re: "In the Mouth of Madness" Reviews/Discussion - 2015 Horror Challenge: Day 21

Originally Posted by rbrown498
Probably much to Undeadcow's displeasure, I must be the dissenter again, but only because I find the majority of Lovecraft's work to be silly in the extreme. Therefore, I also find most movies based on Lovecraft's work to be kind of silly, and this one is no exception. I would probably agree with all of the comments above if I liked Lovecraft's work...but I don't, so I don't. No amount of technical skill exhibited by Carpenter can overcome what, to me, is a goofy basic concept.

Now that I think about it, this may have something to do with why I don't love The Cabin in the Woods, either....

Okay, you can start lobbing the brickbats now.
We're of the same mind on this one. I've been going through the discussion films the past few nights, and I wanted to pick this film up before October left us in its wake. I've never been much on Lovecraft, but I could see why someone would really love this film. I thought Sam Neil was fantastic, but the story left me a little flat.

I caught Das Boot a few weeks ago at one of the retro screenings in town. I was glad to see Jurgen Prochnow in this movie, during his 'wild hair' days.

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